Why is looking for a job so miserable? - Who do we blame? Recruiters, lazy HR, millenials, boomers, zoomers?

Meat Target said:
As for getting a legit job? Networking. It's not what you know, it's who you know. Churches, clubs, family, friends, etc can be potential avenues for getting in a good word.
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best advice in this thread. i can’t be the only Kiwi without a college degree. every well-paying job i’ve had that i truly enjoyed, i got through knowing someone who already worked there.

if you need a job right now and don’t have people who can help you, get temp work and make friends with the other people working the Amazon holiday season or whatever. i guarantee that for some of them, it is their 2nd job to make ends meet, and they already have one full time job that they might be able to hook you up with. i got a good job this way once after i moved.

my current job, i got by interacting with the workers on a fairly regular basis and being a chill, friendly customer. when i got laid off, i happened to mention it to them, and they offered me a job.

if you were a huge fuckup when you were younger, like me, then to improve your station in life you must learn to be a friendly, helpful, and outwardly motivated person. be genuinely nice to everyone you possibly can be. say yes to healthy social opportunities, make many friends in your community etc.

also, for this to work you can’t be a lazy piece of shit. if your friend gets you a job, and then you call in sick all the time or spend all your time at work playing on the phone, you are a huge fag. if you get a job basically through nepotism, and then fuck around on your gifted opportunity, you will not get another one any time soon.
 
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I've personally had luck with Indeed, but not without a metric fuckton of trial and error. It's hard to land work when you're fresh out of college and have less than ideal credentials, but I managed to land a little temp work three very long months out of school. I found my current job through Indeed, but it took a significant amount of work experience from jobs I found through niche subscription-based job boards just to get my foot in the door with an Indeed application to begin with.

The issue with broad online boards is that every listing is gonna be flooded with applications, sometimes hundreds of them. A lot of applicants are throwing their resumes at the wall to see which one sticks, which is additionally filtered out through ATS software that picks applicants based on the right keywords, which I suspect is why so many professional resumes on LinkedIn are full of bullshit word salad.
 
The inherent power imbalance and lack of transparency between both parties when hunting for a job probably has a lot to do with some dissatisfaction.

Ideally, in a perfect world, I would present my skills and experience and my history of employment and use a probationary period to sus out if I was full of shit and work well with others. Because anything else but verifiable employment and education history is going to end as a fencing match of everyone telling eachother what they want to hear. It's overcomplicated everything about the process.

I've worked multiple places where HR hired obvious drunks and pillheads for admin roles, so I dont have much faith in recruiters and the processes they utilize to find employees.

That being said, I pretty much only use indeed and have had decent luck. I just make sure to filter salaries and avoid anything where I have to use the company's shit-ass application software. Throw shit to the wall till it sticks with your resume... Or have a friend get you in somewhere.
If you don't have employment history, there are tons of manufacturing jobs that are cycling through warm bodies. Find one and be the best warm body you can be, and look for something else in tandem.
 
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On the other hand: When recruiting for staff that if you don't add some kind of challenge to the application process, you just end up with an infinite number of pointless applications that people are spamming at you, like people based in India applying for an entry-level office based job in Amsterdam.

In the end though I was able to come to a good compromise where I asked candidates to write certain things in their covering email, but I interspersed that in the job description. People actually having to read about the job turned out to be a pretty good barrier to entry and I could use email filters to automatically discard anyone who didn't follow what I asked.
 
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Dyn said:
You guys are being precious faggots just call literally any labor hire company and they'll find you work within a day or two, no matter how many employment gaps or mental illnesses or drug addictions or enormous gang-related swastika face tattoos you have, and it'll pay a hell of a lot better than Uber or entry-level IT.
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Agency workers don't tend to benefit from most workers rights though, they're fine for when you're between jobs but you basically have no job security with them.
 
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There is no "one size fits all" explanation. There are several factors that can vary depending on the location and economic situation.

It also depends on the job. I think its a case where both sides arent innocent in the manner. People seeking and asking are both very picky. Also we are stuck on a hiring style that remains very improperly adapted for modern times, that certain doesnt help either.

A lot of useless positions as well, that too.

Not enough incentive/conditions to allow for independent business making. You are told to work for someone instead of yourself.
 
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I applied to a call center based IT company, got hired, embraced the suck, and made friends with as many people as I could there. Then when they moved to other places through their own networks, I was their first contact when a job opened where they went. How I got my current gig.

Networking is the biggest strength you can do. Even starting somewhere shitty.
 
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The secret is to learn to do something that's always needed.
For example people always get old and ill and need to be patched up and medicated.
Oh, and do try for as few bosses above you as possible, as that tends to drive one insane. You need one good rolemodel to parasitize, and give you a few years of scholarship and learning, and that's all, after that you want to never see anyone that can yell orders at you.
 
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This may sound strange to some but I’ve never had trouble getting a job. In fact most of the time in my experience I’ve only had to wait a few days at most to secure new employment and almost always with better pay… with the exception of the one time I worked pizza delivery for a week. Anyways, it’s really all about using common sense and knowing what to say. Factory jobs for instance are super easy to get and tend to pay a lot more than most others. In my case I make more than most cops and teachers for basically doing nothing and it only took me like three days to get the job because the HR chick was drinking buddies with my uncle who had at the time recently passed. Right place, right time.
 
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Butterschmalz said:
Thats because you think a job is supposed to bring you joy and happiness. But it wont. Try to look for happiness somewhere else.
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Trying to make a hobby into a career is a reliable way to eventually hate that hobby.

A job is a job because it involves doing things you'd rather not do. That's why they have to pay you.
 
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