Why should I be Catholic?

Even Luther and Muslims (which are a splinter group derived from Christian, Jewish and spastic Arab paganism beliefs) belived in Mary's perpetual virginity. It's only within the last 200 years that has been questioned becaue like everything Protestant, it is a protest against established tradition. The word for brothers (adelphoi) in Greek is also translated as cousins or close kin and it is used in other places in the Greek Bible specifically to mention cousins. If they wanted to say blood brothers, they would say philia. This is why I don't like Protestantism: it's low info Christianity that makes any idiots opinon as valid as any others because religion becomes a purely personal deal, not a communal nor cosmic matter. It's why trannies can think they are the opposite gender when they clearly aren't by any other metric and we are forced to agree with them and why #MeToo type shit is running rampant: there is no way to sort the bullshit from the actual fact of the matter. Idiots also deserve to be saved but their opinions should not matter because they are uninformed. This is why democracy is a retarded idea unless you make sure only the people with something to lose can vote.

This is why hierarchy exists not only in liturgy but also in nature and especially in the fucking Bible: God loves mankind but He knows how haughty and prideful they can make themselves and their opinions out to be. Hierarchy basically sorts that shit out and gives an actual litmus test for testing bullshit.
Martin Luther also thought that Revelation should be in the apocrypha. Martin Luther can be right on some things and wrong in others. James the Just is Jesus's brother period as per Josephus and Paul and the gospels. Adelphoi clearly means brother in this context. Your tradition is a lie and ahistorical, and I'm tired of Catholic mental gymnastics trying to change history. There's a blood line of Jesus's family through Jude as well that survived multiple generations.

Catholics just want to excuse their Mary worship which is another component of paganism passed down into their theology. Catholics also thought Mary Magdalene was a whore and that unicorns were in the Bible. Gnosticism was also a tradition for hundreds of years. Something being a tradition does not mean it's right, or there would be three heads of John the Baptist instead of one, because of the existence of multiple relics with a tradition. Catholics even believe in figures like Veronica that were created out of the confusion of what words mean. The existence of tradition is not an argument. There are plenty of examples of Catholic tradition beyond that one that are just silly or wrong.

Also I like how "tradcaths" start screeching about stuff like trannies when that's what their Catholic political representatives support, and then in the same breath they condemn "evangelicals" because they are aligned with right wing politics. Huge cognitive dissonance going on. The only thing they can do is try to lump in weird mainline denominations into "protestants" as a generic all encomapassing category, trying to erase what the actual evangelicals think that they hate so much.
 
Last edited:
Martin Luther also thought that Revelation should be in the apocrypha. Martin Luther can be right on some things and wrong in others.
Okay, but if people that disagree on multiple things concur on one thing for millenia, it gives it more credence than something that was only invented in the 1800s to sperg about how Catholics worship Mary. I give more credence to history than a random sperg when it comes to my religion becuase it there is really no logical reason Catholics would want to ""worship"" Mary for no reason and keep it as tradition for multiple ecumenical councils when multiple heresies, some even more trivial and confounding, were stamped out like Arianism or Monophysim.

James the Just is Jesus's brother period as per Josephus and Paul and the gospels. Adelphoi clearly means brother in this context.
Nigger learn Koine Greek. Philia is "blood brother". Adelphoi is "closely related kinsman (which ranges from cousin to half-brother to step-brother depending on the context). No competent writer of Greek would confuse the two. They are entirely different concepts. What you are saying is like saying "They meant erotic love, even though the word they used was not that". And then there's the issue of the fucking Aramaic, the OG language of the Bible disagreeing with you. If James the Younger was Jesus's blood brother, the Aramaic for it would be something like James, son of Mary. Instead we see Jesus's brother, James, which again indicates a non-blood brother relationship. Stop your retarded ass from embarrassing yourself. I read books upon books about this. You literally read the translatipn of a translation of a translation and cane to your uninformed opinion, forgetting naturally, translastions are imperfect ccopies of the original.

On a theological level, it's extra retarded to say Mary wasn't a perpetual virgin since she's the New Ark of The Covenant (since she did carry God in the form of Christ in her womb). The last time people touched the Ark with unclean hands and/or thoughts, they fucking died. Joseph dies in the 30 years between the Advent narrative and Jesus's calling, but based on the fact that he's still alive during the Incident in the Temple when Jesus was 13 and frankly the fact that it isn't in the Bible, you can tell that he died a death that wasn't literal Divine Punishment from God.
UNINFORMED SPERGING ABOUT SHIT YOU CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT
The existence of tradition is not an argument. There are plenty of examples of Catholic tradition beyond that one that are just silly or wrong.
Please point to me where the Trinity is explicitly mentioned in the Bible. Because that is not there. It's hinted at, but groups like the Arians denied it and it was onlt through Ecumenical Councils that became the basis of Christendom that we have such dogmas. Basically, Protestants rely on Tradition yet disparage it at the same time because they literally have no historical understanding of how Christian doctrine was formed over the milenia.

Also I like how "tradcaths" start screeching about stuff like trannies when that's what their Catholic political representatives support
I'm not really talking about trannies so much as the mindset both Protestants and far leftists have where reality is subject to my interpretation and objective facts and traditions don't matter: they are to be destroyed and replaced with what I feel. This tendency in both camps is eerily similar and really I feel like Protesant groups are some of the most prone to far left thought specifically because is an outgrowth of Protestantism itself. Fundamentally, Protestantism was, is and always wil be a meme. The only debate should be whether to join an Ortodox church or The Catholic Chuch or do neither and become a nonbeliver. Protestantism is basically just nihilism dressed up as Christianty.
 
I’m not Catholic, I’m a convert to Orthodoxy (raised Agnostic and dabbled in Theravada Buddhism) however most of my dads family is still Catholic and most of the women I’ve dated have been Catholic, so I know a bit more than others and I’m not Hyperdox at all - there are a few Catholics here who can vouch for me on this.

If you’re interested in Catholicism the best place to start is going to Church. There you will meet people far better equipped than random internet people to guide you to the faith or you can decide it isn’t for you. I take issue with certain parts of Catholicism so I chose Orthodoxy but that does not diminish my respect for it and while the office of the Papacy itself doesn’t bother me, it’s how far reaching its powers are that I do not support. This is not to say there are no corrupt Orthodox Bishops either. I just see less potential for their abuses or more scrutiny. That said if you enjoy the community, believe in the sacraments, and believe in enough of the doctrines you should put aside your issues with a current Pope and embrace the faith. It is a big decision to convert trust me. I’d attend regular services for at least a year before I committed to being a catechumen if I were you. I attended Orthodox services for longer than that before becoming a Catechumen.

Someone here said Orthodox don’t treat converts the same. That really depends on the parish and who oversees it. There’s this stereotype that Antiochans are very embracing of converts and Serbs basically ignore them but I’ve seen those positions reversed depending on the community. My Church is more convert than cradle for example.
 
Last edited:
Religion is for childish and confused people. That is why it is so similar to the LGBT movement. Your cult is stupid, grow up. Find your own way in life and stop trying to use ancient smoothbrain philosophy as a crutch.

Also stop larping. You aren't a medieval knight. You aren't Luke Skywalker. Religion is the highest order of cringe.

The surest mark of maturity and intelligence I respect in a man is that they aren't part of a cult. You christfags are literally just troons of a different color.

Now watch as the spergs rate this dumb and power level etc. because you guys are just as easy to trigger as dumb leftist troons. You cult fanatics are the crackiest of crackwhores.

More pedophiles in Christianity than anywhere else on the planet. You dip naked toddlers in water. You make children drink wine as part of your larp. Degen beyond all belief. 98.7% of pedophiles are Christian. That is a higher rate than the troons.

You're automatically a pedo if you're into this cultist bullshit. Jew on a stick worshipping kiddy diddlers.

If you need a "faith" to guide you in life or some such bullshit then you're simply a weak person. Holy hell even CWC believes in god that should hint at how religion is one big mental illness larp.

You guys really are just troons holding a cross and a bible.

To the OP: if you have even 1/8th of a brain in your skull, you'll get out of cultism and run far away. I know life is confusing and weird and difficult sometimes but being a cultist ain't it homie.

Hell at the very least you could use your mental gymnastics and use something more interesting to pretend is real. Might as well start believing all the Harry Potter books are real or something.
 
Nigger learn Koine Greek. Philia is "blood brother". Adelphoi is "closely related kinsman (which ranges from cousin to half-brother to step-brother depending on the context). No competent writer of Greek would confuse the two. They are entirely different concepts. What you are saying is like saying "They meant erotic love, even though the word they used was not that". And then there's the issue of the fucking Aramaic, the OG language of the Bible disagreeing with you. If James the Younger was Jesus's blood brother, the Aramaic for it would be something like James, son of Mary. Instead we see Jesus's brother, James, which again indicates a non-blood brother relationship. Stop your retarded ass from embarrassing yourself. I read books upon books about this. You literally read the translatipn of a translation of a translation and cane to your uninformed opinion, forgetting naturally, translastions are imperfect ccopies of the original.
Nah, what you read was a bunch of Catholic apologia and then took it verbatim. No independent Biblical scholar who is not a Catholic apologist believes that the references to Jesus's brothers in the Bible referred to cousins. It's pure garbage that came later far after the brothers were martyred or dead. There are examples in the Bible that contradict your premise in regards to how the word was used. Example:

Matthew 4:18As he was walking by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers (adelphous | ἀδελφούς | acc pl masc), Simon who was called Peter and Andrew his brother (adelphon | ἀδελφόν | acc sg masc), casting a net into the sea, for they were fishermen.

Are you going to suggest Peter and Andrew were not siblings now?

If James the Younger was Jesus's blood brother, the Aramaic

You're screeching about me being uniformed but you don't even know what James we are talking about apparently. LOL. Seriously, how did you make this mistake?

On a theological level, it's extra retarded to say Mary wasn't a perpetual virgin since she's the New Ark of The Covenant (since she did carry God in the form of Christ in her womb). The last time people touched the Ark with unclean hands and/or thoughts, they fucking died. Joseph dies in the 30 years between the Advent narrative and Jesus's calling, but based on the fact that he's still alive during the Incident in the Temple when Jesus was 13 and frankly the fact that it isn't in the Bible, you can tell that he died a death that wasn't literal Divine Punishment from God.

That's some great Sonichu level fanfiction you got there. lol

Please point to me where the Trinity is explicitly mentioned in the Bible. Because that is not there. It's hinted at, but groups like the Arians denied it and it was onlt through Ecumenical Councils that became the basis of Christendom that we have such dogmas. Basically, Protestants rely on Tradition yet disparage it at the same time because they literally have no historical understanding of how Christian doctrine was formed over the milenia.

Well, it is alluded to in additions to John that may not be in the original text. I will not argue that things that are not in the Bible are neccesarily canonical, but there are examples where Catholic tradition is farcical. Do you think Veronica was a real person? Was Mary Magdelene a whore? You just skipped over those I notice. lol

I'm not really talking about trannies so much as the mindset both Protestants and far leftists have where reality is subject to my interpretation and objective facts and traditions don't matter: they are to be destroyed and replaced with what I feel. This tendency in both camps is eerily similar and really I feel like Protesant groups are some of the most prone to far left thought specifically because is an outgrowth of Protestantism itself. Fundamentally, Protestantism was, is and always wil be a meme. The only debate should be whether to join an Ortodox church or The Catholic Chuch or do neither and become a nonbeliver. Protestantism is basically just nihilism dressed up as Christianty.

Catholics produce politicians like Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden. Evangelicals produce politicians that are right wing and are against the things you suggest protestants are for. No way around this really other than through your reality bending LARPing as a tradcath.

Fundamentally, Protestantism was, is and always wil be a meme.

Yeah, one of the largest religions in the world is a meme. Some strong cope there. The church in Rome, freaking Rome, was never supposed to have supremacy over all other churches. You had to LARP another non-Biblical history that did not occur to justify that, but it still doesn't make it true.
 
Last edited:
Religion is for childish and confused people. That is why it is so similar to the LGBT movement. Your cult is stupid, grow up. Find your own way in life and stop trying to use ancient smoothbrain philosophy as a crutch.

Also stop larping. You aren't a medieval knight. You aren't Luke Skywalker. Religion is the highest order of cringe.

The surest mark of maturity and intelligence I respect in a man is that they aren't part of a cult. You christfags are literally just troons of a different color.

Now watch as the spergs rate this dumb and power level etc. because you guys are just as easy to trigger as dumb leftist troons. You cult fanatics are the crackiest of crackwhores.

More pedophiles in Christianity than anywhere else on the planet. You dip naked toddlers in water. You make children drink wine as part of your larp. Degen beyond all belief. 98.7% of pedophiles are Christian. That is a higher rate than the troons.

You're automatically a pedo if you're into this cultist bullshit. Jew on a stick worshipping kiddy diddlers.

If you need a "faith" to guide you in life or some such bullshit then you're simply a weak person. Holy hell even CWC believes in god that should hint at how religion is one big mental illness larp.

You guys really are just troons holding a cross and a bible.

To the OP: if you have even 1/8th of a brain in your skull, you'll get out of cultism and run far away. I know life is confusing and weird and difficult sometimes but being a cultist ain't it homie.

Hell at the very least you could use your mental gymnastics and use something more interesting to pretend is real. Might as well start believing all the Harry Potter books are real or something.
You sound really mad at your parents. lol
 
Religion is for childish and confused people. That is why it is so similar to the LGBT movement. Your cult is stupid, grow up. Find your own way in life and stop trying to use ancient smoothbrain philosophy as a crutch.

Also stop larping. You aren't a medieval knight. You aren't Luke Skywalker. Religion is the highest order of cringe.

The surest mark of maturity and intelligence I respect in a man is that they aren't part of a cult. You christfags are literally just troons of a different color.

Now watch as the spergs rate this dumb and power level etc. because you guys are just as easy to trigger as dumb leftist troons. You cult fanatics are the crackiest of crackwhores.

More pedophiles in Christianity than anywhere else on the planet. You dip naked toddlers in water. You make children drink wine as part of your larp. Degen beyond all belief. 98.7% of pedophiles are Christian. That is a higher rate than the troons.

You're automatically a pedo if you're into this cultist bullshit. Jew on a stick worshipping kiddy diddlers.

If you need a "faith" to guide you in life or some such bullshit then you're simply a weak person. Holy hell even CWC believes in god that should hint at how religion is one big mental illness larp.

You guys really are just troons holding a cross and a bible.

To the OP: if you have even 1/8th of a brain in your skull, you'll get out of cultism and run far away. I know life is confusing and weird and difficult sometimes but being a cultist ain't it homie.

Hell at the very least you could use your mental gymnastics and use something more interesting to pretend is real. Might as well start believing all the Harry Potter books are real or something.
Fedora Tipping and High Horsery. Feels like 2010 all over again.
 
The pope is rich, and he owns many things. Not many jobs these days offer lifetime employment, with a built in social safety net. If I was a young lad wondering the value of pledging fealty to Amazon, Google, or The Army... I might take a long and hard look at the benefits of a peaceful and settled life in the employ of the literal physical embodiment of Jesus Christ Himself.
 
This is why I don't like Protestantism: it's low info Christianity that makes any idiots opinon as valid as any others because religion becomes a purely personal deal, not a communal nor cosmic matter. It's why trannies can think they are the opposite gender when they clearly aren't by any other metric and we are forced to agree with them and why #MeToo type shit is running rampant: there is no way to sort the bullshit from the actual fact of the matter.
We have The Nicene Creed, The Athanasian Creed, The Apostles Creed, The Augsburg Confession, The Bible, and the Small and Large Catechisms to separate heresies from actual doctrine. And Pastors to uphold those texts, bear The Office of The Keys, administer The Lord's Supper and lead congregations during Mass.

Yes, Protestants do allow for individual interpretation of the Bible, because we believe that our Confessions of Faith are congruent with Scripture and that faithful Christians will uncover Biblical truth through the work of the Holy Ghost. If they don't agree with our interpretation, then that's fine; they can do as they like. But, we won't recognize them as faithful Lutherans. Of course, they are still Christians (if it's as something as minor as Sacramental Union V.S. Transubstantiation and, not essential doctrine like the Bodily Resurrection or the Trinity).

Yes, we do believe in One Holy Christian and Apostolic Church. But that it is completely invisible, and composed of all Believers. Congregations, sects and denominations cannot be the One Holy Christian and Apostolic Church as they are composed of adherent Christians and apostates alike. Questioning the visible church is a constant within Lutheranism, and helps maintain orthodoxy. I seek guidance from my elders and pastors, but my only true authority is my Bible. They are fallible, as men are, and it's my duty as a Christian to rebuke anyone that is speaking against true Doctrine. No matter if they are a layman, or a man in high esteem.

"Unless you understand these words in this way, you will never understand either this letter of St. Paul or any book of the Scriptures. Be on guard, therefore against any teacher who uses these words differently, no matter who he be, whether Jerome, Augustine, Ambrose, Origen or anyone else as great as or greater than they. Now let us turn to the letter itself."
-Martin Luther, Preface to Romans
 
  • Disagree
Reactions: Tomboy Respecter
Because it's the hip new thing on /pol/ and friends.
Don't think. Just follow the memes.
While I know this is a sarcastic response I did muse about something like this to a friend the other day and while it was over voice I’ll try to paraphrase what I said. For context this is a guy I’ve known for years who is thinking of being Orthodox but isn’t well versed in the faith he just likes the aesthetics and I told him.

“You really shouldn’t do something or commit to something just because it looks cool. If I were doing that I’d be a Tibetan Buddhist for example. Orthodoxy has a very rich theology that can definitely bring immense joy and truth into someone’s life but keep in mind it requires a lot of understanding and prayer as well. You don’t just approach the Priest after Liturgy and ask ‘So when do I get Baptized?’ There are people who spend years as Catechumens. Go to your local Church (preferably not a Greek or Russian one) and attend a few services. The community will likely approach you first and you can join it in time. Again though keep in mind there’s a lot more to this than aesthetics.”

That’s not exactly what I said and the conversation was a lot longer and did involve me explaining aspects of Orthodox theology and dietary practices but that is the spark notes version.

And keep in mind, I’m Orthodox and I’m not trying to convert him, I’m being up front about how there are some things in this faith he isn’t going to expect.
 
Let’s not forget that Jorge Bergoglio runs cover for pedophiles, something I find to be a far more significant grievance than his politics.
 
Because it's the hip new thing on /pol/ and friends.
Don't think. Just follow the memes.
Maybe in the greater "alt-right" or whatever the fuck that nonsense that Nick Fuentes came out of should be called, but /pol/ is non-stop butt hurt about Chrristianity. The traditional /pol/ ideology is to call Jesus "a kike on a stick" and then drool at nude statues of Jupiter or Thor because very dead and lost pagan traditions that were also imported from the east are supposedly more native than what the people in Europe have actually practiced for 2,000 years. Overall, /pol/ is retarded and I think this stance is one the things that is greatly alienating people and pushing them even further to the fringes since Christianity is traditional white culture.
 
If you fuckers are spending this much time agonising over the finer points of ehat a dead language means it suggests to me the ultimate and final revelation for all ages was a bit of a failure.

Seeing as nobody actually has a definitive verdict or proof as to what the TROOFPH is.
 
I was raised Catholic and by fairly traditionalist parents. I no longer believe in it, but I know slightly moar about the theological autism involved than a lot of people. Serious answer to OP's question, look into sedevacantism and Vatican II. If you want a full explanation of why the Vatican II is bullshit and the current pope is illegitimate, here is decent site explaining it.

The short answer is that most of the bs in the modern day Church stems from Vatican II. If you walk into most Catholic churches, you won't find a word of Latin, and there is also a lot of fuckery with the physical design of the churches as well. Try to find a congregation that celebrates the Tridentine Mass. That is the old Latin mass that people have done since the early Church. The sedevacantists essentially believe that the current pope is illegitimate and that there is no valid pope. Tbh, at this point, I'd say that the old joke of "Is the Pope Catholic?", is no longer a joke, but a serious question, because he is doing shit that no valid Pope should ever do, like participate in and encourage idol worship on Church property.

EDIT: I suck at spelling.
 
I applied my mind to seek and to search out by wisdom all that is done under heaven; it is an unhappy business that God has given to the sons of men to be busy with. I have seen everything that is done under the sun; and behold, all is vanity and a striving after wind.

What is crooked cannot be made straight,
and what is lacking cannot be numbered.

I said to myself, “I have acquired great wisdom, surpassing all who were over Jerusalem before me; and my mind has had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.” And I applied my mind to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also is but a striving after wind.

For in much wisdom is much vexation,
and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.
 
Back