Wikia / FANDOM - The ugly result of giving aspies control of their own wiki websites

[Becky McDonald]

So its become an even more bureaucratic mess of power hungry autists in charge while wiki staff members like that landwhale Sannse and disney rep Brandon Rhea rake in the cash? Not surprising in the least, especially after that massive ad spam overhaul they made to their site.

Yup. And it wasn't just adverts either; last summer they began running pop-up quizzes on completely unrelated Wikis (i.e. one I visit started asking me random Star Wars questions even though I was on a Wiki for diecast models). And no, I couldn't find a way to disable them.

You mean the Zelda wiki? Talk about having no way out.

Not exactly what I was thinking of, but I wouldn't be surprised how many times this story has happened.

Either way, it goes to show that there are really no alternative options. Every single one will end up getting shut down or bought out by Fandom (hot damn that name will never not sound stupid for a company).

Which is why you do what I did and make an independent Wiki on a fork of MediaWiki. Costs less than $100 for the initial set up, and then you're paying pennies on the dollar every year or however long you wish to renew.

No idea what this one is.
Please share more. Could give the Fandom thread some potential new drama.

I won't mention who he is just yet, since I want to build things up. But I'll say a few more things about him:

• This guy only has his standing in the community because he was able to take control of the Wiki, and will essentially never let anyone depose him.
• He is COMPLETELY at odds with every other website that deals with this intellectual property. The subreddit hates him. The Discord hates him even more.
• Though the Wiki he operates is VERY concise for the IP concerned, he has chosen to omit certain EU material (i.e. children's magazines) because they contained original characters that the rights holders did not make.
• He has a VERY autistic grasp on the way this property's "canon" works, and this caused massive arguments within the community, who were almost able to successfully argue their case until Fandom's forums were shut down, and the things the Wiki's userbase were arguing over were never overturned.

To give you an example, in the early days of the Wiki, a race of villains were given an average weight that a random user felt was too low... this resulted in the Bureaucrat responsible invalidating every single piece of non-narrative fiction that mentioned this weight, based on the sentiments of one random user.

 

[NerdShamer]

To give you an example, in the early days of the Wiki, a race of villains were given an average weight that a random user felt was too low...

I'm assuming that this is Wookieepedia?

 

[Creep3r]

I'm assuming that this is Wookieepedia?

It seems a lot of this Fandom rebranding and ad drama got out of control with Wookieepedia back when it went through a major restructure out of nowhere and many other wikis followed suit.

The Lost in Space wiki is a notable one I can name off the top of my head since it got an equally lousy treatment where the majority of its articles were deleted and added to insignificant lists and most of the users left after that. The majority of the site's content was then replaced with articles and advertisements for the Netflix series.

 

[SwanSwanson]

The dishonored wiki is run by a bunch of chumps, when I was a kid I just made a jokey comment and some French dude interpreted as me saying "women are weak" and was like "I KNOW A WOMAN IN FRANCE WHO WOULD KILL YOU FOR SAYING WOMEN ARE WEAK".

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

You mean the Zelda wiki? Talk about having no way out. Either way, it goes to show that there are really no alternative options. Every single one will end up getting shut down or bought out by Fandom (hot damn that name will never not sound stupid for a company).

Ironically, Zelda Wiki is part of NIWA, the Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance, which is an alliance of Nintendo wikis that formed from wikis that left Wikia. Zelda wiki, controversially, did something none of the other wikis did and moved to Gamepedia in 2017...which was subsequently sold to and merged with Fandom by its parent company. Zelda wiki thus became a Fandom wiki again, and the existing Fandom Zelda wiki, Zeldapedia, merged into it. Since then, there is an ongoing dispute over whether or not Zelda Wiki should even remain part of NIWA at all, going all the way back to when the wiki moved to Gamepedia.

 

[Miss Violet Beauregarde]

Man, i would like one of those "wiki representarives" to come at us like a swarm of angry bees for daring to mention them.

 

[Creep3r]

Man, i would like one of those "wiki representarives" to come at us like a swarm of angry bees for daring to mention them.

As things are now and how increasingly terrible fandom is getting, its only a matter of time before more former users show up here (or more likely elsewhere) to give us some juicy details. I can only imagine what sort of juicy tidbits we will get about these representatives if things keep going south for them.

 

[NerdShamer]

As things are now and how increasingly terrible fandom is getting, its only a matter of time before more former users show up here (or more likely elsewhere) to give us some juicy details. I can only imagine what sort of juicy tidbits we will get about these representatives if things keep going south for them.

Well, one of them stuck their noses in the "Is this tomboy trans?" debate in the One Piece wiki and it didn't set well with an few of the users.

I might need to check on that thread, again.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

It's a bit more complex than that, admittedly.
These people were selected due to their proficiency on other wikis, but it's still very bad since as you can see, there aren't many of them. If doing this full time, you can maybe actively contribute to ~5 wikis in a day, no more, unless you're a mega autist. But these people have been given control over hundreds, if not thousands of wikis. There is no feasible way they could ever do their job efficiently when given that much scope to work with.

This was completely foisted upon us by surprise, after their Community Builder project spectacularly failed. No-one was approached before announcing it, and there wasn't an application to become a Specialist/Representative, and by the looks of things, there still isn't, given how few there are. And yet these are the people Fandom entrusted every single wiki on the site onto.

I didn't even need to scroll down far enough to find this gem.

"Inclusitivity and representation are both very important to him, so he is always happy to share advice when it comes to editing for LGBTQIA+ topics and characters!

What "help" would one need to put "this character might be a homosexual" in an article?

 

[AnyballLecter]

Did this policy change make much of a difference?

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Wiki_Rules_and_Blocking_Policy

Basically now there is only one wiki per subject, so the old policy of admins can do what they want and you can start your own wiki if you don't like it, must end. Now admins must behave, have rules, and only block people based on rule violations.

Their documentation in some places has not been updated to reflect this, and so still says admins are supreme.

 

[NerdShamer]

Basically now there is only one wiki per subject

That's been going on for quite an while, since some sperg was on the 20th version of the Go Animate wiki over some sort of retarded drama.

Aside from one incident where the staffers politely asked an random admin to unban an sped who claimed that he didn't understand the rules, I haven't seen much of it.

 

[AnyballLecter]

... I haven't seen much of it.

So is it:

1. That Fandom made the policy but don't uphold it?
2. Or, people don't know their Miranda rights now?

You guys may be interested in the tale of The Dragon Demands, a Fandom admin who absolutely got his wings clipped for flying too close to the sun.

 

[NerdShamer]

It's mostly done as lip service, given that the Wiki Representatives are mostly there for tech support and playing as the middleman (on paper, obviously). Since most of the ban appeals solve themselves and the only thing that the employees ever get involved with is deleting duplicates and placing global blocks whenever the tard fights get out of hand. That one example I brought up was mainly an "but I'm autistic, I didn't know..." kind of thing, which is an uncommon excuse across the site. Overall, 99% of the bans are about people breaking the rules and subsequently evading their permanent bans. The "Adopt Me Wiki" (and probably Roblox) has rules regulating public trading because kids can't recognize an scam. And the LGBT bans people for the usual reasons and they get away with it because it's in their rules.


Of course, there's also the support tickets that they process; but unless those get leaked or something noticeable gets altered, all we can do is speculate.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

The "one wiki per subject" thing is a reversion to Wikia's policy like 15 years ago.

 

[AnyballLecter]

So "one wiki per subject" is the justification for the changes, but that's not what I wanted to highlight.

The old way was you got blocked unfairly or abused / harassed by an admin, err, tough shit, start another wiki. AND THE SUPPORT SITE STILL SAYS THAT.

However that info is out of date since 2021. Admins can't abuse ordinary users. So this ought to end the reign of tyrannical unhinged admins (Such as my example of The Dragon Demands, who has an indefinite ban on being made admin again).

However, people don't seem to be aware of this, as it flew under the radar. So be aware of this, and spread the word.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Ah man, who would do something like this?

Spoiler: Big Surprise

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Oh, he works for AnimeFeminist. Literally everything makes sense now.
How do these faggots keep getting into positions of power when they don't fit in with the fanbase and everyone hates them? That NMH article he wrote is basically just him seething about not fitting in with other people who like anime and bitching about the "alt-right" while virtue signaling about all kind of other dumb shit all while misreading a great game.

I like how on the poll discussion page, he basically goes "We have LGBTQP+ people at the top so democracy regarding grey areas like this doesn't matter, I'm just going to overrule everyone because we literally built my political beliefs into the community guidelines of the website"

Spoiler: Totally Not A Nepotistic Abuse Of Power

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Basically all of FANDOM is cucked and if you want to have an apolitical wiki then they will literally come in and force you to comply with their tranny bullshit the second they have an excuse to. I mean, I looked at the staff who run the OP Wiki and the vast majority of them seemed like normal anime fans who didn't care about politics. Some had pronoun bios in linked twitters and I found this one faggot who talked about getting banned from TVTropes for disagreeing with "chuds" but that one was an outlier. These people bitch about colonialism but force their beliefs and habits on everyone literally everywhere they go.

Well that all certainly explains so damn much. It's not just ANN that AF retards but fandom as well.. This also explains the ecchi series and series with higher ecchi content, purge from fandom wikis back a while ago! How do feminists who do nothing but bitch and shit on the media, end up in positions of power within all the fandoms so often?!?

That whole thread is a hell of a read:

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Yamato#Fandom_Staff's_Direction_on_Language_Used_for_Yamato

 

[Random Internet Person]

You guys may be interested in the tale of The Dragon Demands, a Fandom admin who absolutely got his wings clipped for flying too close to the sun.

Finished reading it, and I thought Season 8 reactions and Winds of Winter delays was the peak of GRRM universe insanity.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

An entire Wikia dedicated to tumblr sexymen. It's almost beautiful.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

An entire Wikia dedicated to tumblr sexymen. It's almost beautiful.

Wait, they purged ecchi and fanservice series off the wiki but allow this?! Sexywomen when? (joking.. tumblr + women = something scarier than any horror movie)

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

Wait, they purged ecchi and fanservice series off the wiki but allow this?! Sexywomen when? (joking.. tumblr + women = something scarier than any horror movie)

There are some female entries.