WingsofRedemption / Jordie Jordan - Morbidly Obese E-Begging Suicide-Baiting Vidya Streamer. Trolled by people somehow more pathetic.

[Tobias]

I'm not exactly sure why people are trying to ruin this man's life.

He's already dug his grave given how he has forsaken people that he called his friends, handled his detractors and his confidence has long since been shattered.

He doesn't need help.

 

[Bawbi]

I'm all for trolling the fat man. Hell, I even suggested actual advice on how to improve himself. But Wings doesn't take advice well and seems offended when he's called out on his shit. Look at his IRL stream from yesterday, he seemed bothered by his mom wrecking him.

But actively going into his personal life is too far. Those fake resumes are terrible and whoever made that should be fucking ashamed, because if Wings is to be pushed off the internet (like the trolls say they want to do), then posting up fake resumes with his info will just drive him back to his dwindling Twitch streams making pennies. The exact opposite of what they claim to do.

 

[millais]

Liquid Richard isn't charging money for his albums on Youtube, he just has link to his bandcamp for donation. I'm not seeing how that is stealing money. And even some of the low effort reuploaders are a necessity to catalogue the streams because Wings deletes VODs

 

[Overpaid五毛党]

Liquid Richard isn't charging money for his albums on Youtube, he just has link to his bandcamp for donation. I'm not seeing how that is stealing money. And even some of the low effort reuploaders are a necessity to catalogue the streams because Wings deletes VODs

Bandcamp is still charging for Wings' content. If a song is transformative, then so is a YouTube video.
Plus if you read my original post on the previous page, Leen never monetized his videos. Fake Twitter accounts tried to make it seem like he was, that way SOK2.0 could gatekeep trolling Wings.
WingTings is the only known creator to actually put ads on his videos, and they gatekept him and exiled him from their circle jerk.

You are free to listen to Liquid, but he is profiting from Wings' content, yet cries whenever someone else does.

 

[MeganDodgedABullet]

Those WOR interacts with the trolls' discord vids show some of the haters have crossed the line into capital 'A'-logging and w.e.enery.

 

[Rocketleaguer]

Well, that site seems a bit excessive.

 

[Mannlicher]

I'm all for trolling the fat man. Hell, I even suggested actual advice on how to improve himself. But Wings doesn't take advice well and seems offended when he's called out on his shit. Look at his IRL stream from yesterday, he seemed bothered by his mom wrecking him.

He's a narcissist, look at how he obsesses over his KD and rank in Siege and CoD, and acts like a shithead to teammates that don't live up to his expectations, when he's hardly *that* great of a player himself.

But actively going into his personal life is too far. Those fake resumes are terrible and whoever made that should be fucking ashamed, because if Wings is to be pushed off the internet (like the trolls say they want to do), then posting up fake resumes with his info will just drive him back to his dwindling Twitch streams making pennies. The exact opposite of what they claim to do.

He has a love/hate relationship with streaming, sure it makes him miserable at times but it's easier and more money than he'd make doing anything else.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

It is absolutely possible to call someone out on their behavior without actually defending the person that behavior is directed at. It's a difficult matter quite often, but the principle is there.

But I can't help but note that this feels a bit more like trolls troll-shielding by using other troll-shielding trolls for their troll-shielding. Meaning, yeah, sounds like some of these guys are using attacking WoR to make themselves feel better and deflect attention from their own lolcowery... and that's exactly what some of the people going after the WoR trolls are doing too, from the look of things.

Leen or Liquid Richard going after Wings does not automatically make them better than him. (Though Liquid Richard's created content is at least deliberately amusing.) Similarly, going after them will not make you better than them, so just keep that in mind. If you want to do something about them apparently trying to deliberately ruin his life, hey, all power to you, but if the only option for that you ever consider is ruining their own lives even harder first, you're not a righteous crusader, you're just a bigger asshole who's virtue signaling harder.

 

[Bawbi]

Just wanted to say this after seeing that Lion's Den video (finally): Wings crying at the end is telling, as is his complete silence when they ask, "What are WE doing that's keeping you from going outside?" He's a manchild. The trolls are mean and harsh as fuck, but that's what trolls do. While they are trolling, they're also laying down what's wrong with his life and giving him the "tough love" treatment he needed as a fucking child. He hates the fact that they throw the reality in his face because it shatters his illusions and safe space. He doesn't go outside, he doesn't look for a job, and he doesn't even exercise because he's lazy and lacks willpower.

I want to see him leave and improve his life, but I think the ship has sailed. He's going to be a washed up streamer until something happens. He's been in a safe position for over a decade doing videos and streaming for a decent paycheck (Hell sometimes he gets paid more in 2 hours than I did in 8 working for $11/hr), but that's his legacy. He contributes nothing. He has no future. And when that reality hits him, he has to cry and chug down his Lexapro to calm himself. If he just took the tiniest goddamn effort, he could be in a much different place right now.

 

[millais]

Yes, as near as I can tell from the video of his most recent foray into the troll Discord, the mean-spirited w.eenery in that group is limited to that one guy spamming Wings's facebook contacts and the longstanding Siege teamkilling messages. And as they explained, they never were able to track down who was responsible for the swatting, which might very well have been committed by the Ice Poseidon trolls. Everyone else in the Discord was trying to give him genuine life advice and a "kick in the pants" in regards to his failed attempts towards self-improvement. And he refuses to even engage with or think about all the constructive points they bring up.

The procrastination palpably oozes out of his attitude toward starting his schooling and gym workout program. From his evasiveness when pressed for detail and quickness to fall back on nebulous excuses ("I'll start when the stream dies, when the AC dies", etc), you can tell he hasn't laid out a serious timetable or commitment to either effort. He was supposed to start both of those this fall, and it's fait accompli at this point that it's being pushed back to spring 2019 at the earliest and quite possibly autumn 2019.

 

[Baobinga]

This entire situation is a sad mess.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

"I'll start when the stream dies, when the AC dies", etc

Lol, before the surgery he stated multiple times, that the day of the surgery will be the last day of him streaming. And he streamed right after his return. Now instead of surgery he has schooling and he is back to square one.

 

[Mannlicher]

Lol, before the surgery he stated multiple times, that the day of the surgery will be the last day of him streaming. And he streamed right after his return. Now instead of surgery he has schooling and he is back to square one.

And he could've gotten the surgery years ago by his own admission where he said he had the money for it multiple times.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

And he could've gotten the surgery years ago by his own admission where he said he had the money for it multiple times.

He could've gotten it in America where it would have been better and safer when he was at his peak, and probably recovered much more easily as well. Instead he bought a new truck every few months or something, from the sounds of it.

This is likely due to Wings practicing what I call "gesture mentality". It's where you come up with this series of grand gestures that you're going to perform that is going to knock over the string of dominoes that results in you having the perfect life you think you deserve and can have if you just accomplish This One Thing, or This List Of Stuff.

The problem that sometimes arises with gesture mentality (beyond the fact that it's a problem in and of itself) is that even the person practicing it sometimes begins to detect the pattern where even if they accomplish their arbitrary goal, this has failed to suddenly resolve everything else without any further effort on their part. They don't want to examine what's actually going wrong with this sequence of events, so they instead begin procrastinating on their gestures. (Which is even worse, considering the gestures themselves are essentially a form of procrastination.)

It's why I said awhile back that the surgery was unlikely to do anything for Wings, because the surgery itself was just a gesture in his mind. The very fact that he put it off so long, threw up all these self-imposed blocks to doing it, was indicative that for him it was just another essentially meaningless goal he'd set that would fix everything... except even he knew it wouldn't. In his research he must have discovered all the people saying "It won't do anything if you don't change your lifestyle and work to get healthy", and he knew he wouldn't do that because he's failed to do that every time he's tried, on his own or with help. Not just failed, but actively rejected it. He knew that once he got the surgery, what it meant was coming up with a new excuse for why he wasn't moving forward.

The surgery isn't going to make him better his life. Driving him off Twitch or throwing his flaws and misdeeds in his face isn't going to make him better his life. The only thing that is going to make Wings better his life is if he sincerely decides he is ready to begin making that change and really, actually working for it, and no one, not his (former) friends, not his trolls, not his anti-trolls, is going to make him do that, because no one is going to make him do that, he has to choose it.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

He could've gotten it in America where it would have been better and safer when he was at his peak, and probably recovered much more easily as well. Instead he bought a new truck every few months or something, from the sounds of it.

IRC, he tried to get the surgery in US, but to do this you have to lose some weight before that and prove that you can change your diet, so you won't stuff your face afterwards and tear your guts. He failed it multiple times, so he had to do it in Mexica. FFS, he could do it himself, Kyle was willing to help him, but nope, "eating less and doing exercises would not fucking stop it".

 

[Colonel J]

IRC, he tried to get the surgery in US, but to do this you have to lose some weight before that and prove that you can change your diet, so you won't stuff your face afterwards and tear your guts.

It's also a lot more expensive.

 

[Done]

He recently donated $30 bux from album sales (8:56) to Richard.

This is literally the saddest equivalent possible to the SoK making a well in Africa to somehow spite DSP. $30 fucking dollars in exchange for absolutely trashing his SEO? They might as well not give him money and own their sociopathy in full.

Honestly, I am not surprised that A-Loggery is rampant in the WoR detractor community*, this almost always happens to every careercow that makes money off Vidya/Pop-culture (especially vidya), they consistently attract the attention of A-Logging communities who eventually go on to form competing cabals that engage in severe autism ops.

*The word detractor alone is fucking autistic btw, DSP or WoR are not big countries or institutions to have "detractors", they are fucking dumbasses who make money through poorly playing vidya, they're not worth getting mad over either. You just laugh for a minute at the monkey dancing for pennies and move on with your life, you don't sit down and craft Ocean's 11-level trolling plans.

 

[Mannlicher]

DSP himself is the one who's rather fond of the term "detractor", so....

 

[Colonel J]

I think you'd need to be retarded to care whether or not you're labelled as a troll or a detractor.

 

[Wings of Obesity]

Richard is fun to troll. The troll community, with a few obvious exceptions, is open to all. Troll the way you want. Make fun of his weight? His gameplay? His lies? His finger sniffing? His living situation? Go at it. Make music albums, make spreadsheets, make highlight channels, or just shoot the shit.

The only hard and fast rules we have is about doxxing or obvious illegal conduct (swatting). You are gone, first instance, no exceptions.

However, messaging fat women he talks to on POF? That's fair game. Adding people on Facebook that he plays with on Twitch? Fair game. I can message anyone I want on Facebook.