WingsofRedemption / Jordie Jordan - Morbidly Obese E-Begging Suicide-Baiting Vidya Streamer. Trolled by people somehow more pathetic.

[BoxcarBeethoven]

Richard is fun to troll. The troll community, with a few obvious exceptions, is open to all. Troll the way you want. Make fun of his weight? His gameplay? His lies? His finger sniffing? His living situation? Go at it. Make music albums, make spreadsheets, make highlight channels, or just shoot the shit.

The only hard and fast rules we have is about doxxing or obvious illegal conduct (swatting). You are gone, first instance, no exceptions.

However, messaging fat women he talks to on POF? That's fair game. Adding people on Facebook that he plays with on Twitch? Fair game. I can message anyone I want on Facebook.

Is hosting a fake resume website that stops him ever getting a job fair game? What about charge backs?

 

[Rocketleaguer]

Richard is fun to troll. The troll community, with a few obvious exceptions, is open to all. Troll the way you want. Make fun of his weight? His gameplay? His lies? His finger sniffing? His living situation? Go at it. Make music albums, make spreadsheets, make highlight channels, or just shoot the shit.

The only hard and fast rules we have is about doxxing or obvious illegal conduct (swatting). You are gone, first instance, no exceptions.

However, messaging fat women he talks to on POF? That's fair game. Adding people on Facebook that he plays with on Twitch? Fair game. I can message anyone I want on Facebook.

False chargebacks seem pretty illegal to me.

 

[Zilortha]

Richard is fun to troll. The troll community, with a few obvious exceptions, is open to all. Troll the way you want. Make fun of his weight? His gameplay? His lies? His finger sniffing? His living situation? Go at it. Make music albums, make spreadsheets, make highlight channels, or just shoot the shit.

The only hard and fast rules we have is about doxxing or obvious illegal conduct (swatting). You are gone, first instance, no exceptions.

However, messaging fat women he talks to on POF? That's fair game. Adding people on Facebook that he plays with on Twitch? Fair game. I can message anyone I want on Facebook.

Then what really happened with Leen?
Your statement seems awfully defensive...

 

[Mannlicher]

Is hosting a fake resume website that stops him ever getting a job fair game? What about charge backs?

The only thing that's stopping Richard from getting another job is himself.

Case and point, this fellow was a high school teacher that was busted trying to score a 12 yo girl on national television in front of millions...

And despite that humiliation, jail time, RSO status (where you have to report to people that you're one, including prospective employers), his TCAP appearance (and associated parodies) and name plastered all over the net, he still managed to not only find another job after the incident, but a better one than before.

Like DSP, he has a love/hate relationship with what he does, they may dislike it, but it's easier and better paying than the alternative.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

The only thing that's stopping Richard from getting another job is himself.

While nominally true, I don't think "It's theoretically possible this deliberate attempt to stop him from getting a job by lying about him won't actually stop him from getting a good job" is exactly a rational or moral stance to take.

Yes, Wings has to work on his own if he's ever going to pull himself out of the hole he's dug. No, that doesn't excuse people deliberately pouring oil on the sides of the hole.

 

[Looney Troons]

I updated the Mad at the Internet thread with the same information, but SME has already taken down the stream on YouTube in the US.

 

[Mannlicher]

While nominally true, I don't think "It's theoretically possible this deliberate attempt to stop him from getting a job by lying about him won't actually stop him from getting a good job" is exactly a rational or moral stance to take.

Yes, Wings has to work on his own if he's ever going to pull himself out of the hole he's dug. No, that doesn't excuse people deliberately pouring oil on the sides of the hole.

I'm not excusing the fake resume or the pedo accusations, I'm saying that he's been fully capable of changing course not only years before the current troll cabal came onto the scene but even now despite all that. Ultimately, much like DSP, he's the main reason why he's in the position he's in now. Like a dumb professional sports athlete, they thought the gravy train was going to last forever and had no backup plan for when things would inevitably change.

 

[Noodles&Nuggets]

Richard is fun to troll. The troll community, with a few obvious exceptions, is open to all. Troll the way you want. Make fun of his weight? His gameplay? His lies? His finger sniffing? His living situation? Go at it. Make music albums, make spreadsheets, make highlight channels, or just shoot the shit.

The only hard and fast rules we have is about doxxing or obvious illegal conduct (swatting). You are gone, first instance, no exceptions.

However, messaging fat women he talks to on POF? That's fair game. Adding people on Facebook that he plays with on Twitch? Fair game. I can message anyone I want on Facebook.

Is hosting a fake resume website that stops him ever getting a job fair game? What about charge backs?

I love this thread but when I found out about that resume shit, I had to stop and evaluate just how autistic these detractors are. Every video of Wings interacting with the troll discord has shown the entire server to be filled with the most exceptional of individuals, but that fake resume... that through me for a loop. I believe Wings is justified in trying to get Discord to shut down their server.

 

[Wings of Obesity]

Is hosting a fake resume website that stops him ever getting a job fair game? What about charge backs?

How would a fake resume keep him from getting a job? If they search his name, they will find 100s of things before they find a fake resume of his, let alone his "website" (although that might change in the future). He's applying for bottom of the barrel positions...he's not applying to jobs where he will hold a fiduciary duty lol.

People who chargeback are risking their credit and their ability to use services which are bordering on necessary in today's society. But beyond that, it is not actionable fraud (unlike someone who receives an actual good or service and charges back). They are the ones taking the risk. What does that have to do with Wings? He brings it upon himself. Perhaps he should allow people to message him without having to donate $5.00.

Then what really happened with Leen?
Your statement seems awfully defensive...

Leen is the outlier situation from the community. We don't have a lot of rules, but openly endorsing and advocating for monetization is perhaps the best way to ruffle the feathers of the content creators who don't monetize. If he would have just monetized without all the drama he'd probably still be in the Discord. I told him as much in our PMs. The easiest way for Wings to, in his mind, delegitimize the highlight community is for those channels to profit from his content.

I love this thread but when I found out about that resume shit, I had to stop and evaluate just how autistic these detractors are. Every video of Wings interacting with the troll discord has shown the entire server to be filled with the most exceptional of individuals, but that fake resume... that through me for a loop. I believe Wings is justified in trying to get Discord to shut down their server.

That's a weird mountain to die on. The sheer amount of content available about Jordie makes the inclusion of a single document into that tangled web irrelevant. People via their own choices, whether it be social media, criminal convictions, education, work experience, etc. self-select their own exclusion from many jobs. Richard has self-selected his way out of a whole assortment of jobs.

Or rather, as a thought exercise, name the job that a fake resume will prevent him from getting that would otherwise be available given his social media history? A friendly reminder that someone posting a picture of Kim Kardashian topless, given her sex tape and other media endeavors, isn't going to be damaging her future employment prospects.

 

[BoxcarBeethoven]

How would a fake resume keep him from getting a job? If they search his name, they will find 100s of things before they find a fake resume of his, let alone his "website" (although that might change in the future). He's applying for bottom of the barrel positions...he's not applying to jobs where he will hold a fiduciary duty lol.

People who chargeback are risking their credit and their ability to use services which are bordering on necessary in today's society. But beyond that, it is not actionable fraud (unlike someone who receives an actual good or service and charges back). They are the ones taking the risk. What does that have to do with Wings? He brings it upon himself. Perhaps he should allow people to message him without having to donate $5.00.

Kind of a mix of this and your next post but I don't care if he has done worse to himself let him fail on his own. You talk about what he thinks in his mind, do you not think websites like this are just gonna feed into his cow mindset and stop him even trying?

With the chargebacks, how much risk even is there for a $5 transaction on paypal which sides heavily with the payee? I don't think many companies are gonna look too hard into the whole "he didn't provide a service".

"Allow people to message him without paying $5" fucking lol. He's been in your discord you had one on one conversations

 

[Noodles&Nuggets]

That's a weird mountain to die on. The sheer amount of content available about Jordie makes the inclusion of a single document into that tangled web irrelevant. People via their own choices, whether it be social media, criminal convictions, education, work experience, etc. self-select their own exclusion from many jobs. Richard has self-selected his way out of a whole assortment of jobs.

Spoken like a classic literary villain. Wings didn't make the fake resume. Wings' actions didn't magically create the fake resume. The gun doesn't make the decision to shoot.
Individuals are in control of their own actions. It is not Wings' fault that someone else did something they could have simply chosen not to do.

 

[Wings of Obesity]

Kind of a mix of this and your next post but I don't care if he has done worse to himself let him fail on his own. You talk about what he thinks in his mind, do you not think websites like this are just gonna feed into his cow mindset and stop him even trying?

With the chargebacks, how much risk even is there for a $5 transaction on paypal which sides heavily with the payee? I don't think many companies are gonna look too hard into the whole "he didn't provide a service".

"Allow people to message him without paying $5" fucking lol. He's been in your discord you had one on one conversations

The only fake resume I can think of is the one I made up, and I made that up for fun to have a laugh with my friends. If there is another one it is well-buried enough that I haven't seen it, so I don't think he has anything to worry about.

I agree with you, things like this will stop him from trying. Figurative demons, real and imagined, are his worst enemy.

I don't think there is much chargeback risk for a single dispute or two. There probably is for multiple complaints, especially from the privilege perspective. Therefore, I think that it is a lot of risk for a measly message to be sent.

If you actively make it difficult for people to communicate with you, and people wish to troll you, they will find a way. He's insulated himself in such a fashion that people resort to charging back donations to troll him. That's his fault. A few impromptu Discord conversations don't make up for a streamer who banned over 8,000 accounts last year, doesn't respond to tweets, avoids Reddit, and has barely no chat interaction with those who aren't banned on Twitch. Other streamers deal with it all the time. Chargebacks are part of the business model as a full-time streamer based nearly exclusively on your content and your audience.

"Ban anyone that laughs." "Ban anyone who suggests different games to play." "Ban anyone who typed 2." "Ban anyone who asks about my weight loss from the surgery they paid for."

Spoken like a classic literary villain. Wings didn't make the fake resume. Wings' actions didn't magically create the fake resume. The gun doesn't make the decision to shoot.
Individuals are in control of their own actions. It is not Wings' fault that someone else did something they could have simply chosen not to do.

What's your point? I made up a fake resume of his based on what he said he has done (and lied about). It's quality content because of his pathological lying over the last 10 years. Being a 911 operator, being a pro-Starcraft player, pretending he worked at a steel mill when he was 17, etc. I take responsibility for that. It's great material, why wouldn't I take responsibility for that?

People new to Wings don't know a lot of this stuff, so I share it. I think I make a good argument that it has absolutely no effect on him, so there is no counterpoint, no nefarious side to it. If one wanted to conjure up an effect it has on him, oddly enough, it is people planting the seed of this fake resume inside his egg-shaped head. This comes from the anti-troll/pro-Wings community. That's on them, although I'd be hypocritical if I said they had anything to apologize for (they don't).

 

[Mannlicher]

How Wings and his cronies run his chat would make RetardEra want to take notes.

from this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbcWKGLwpDM&

 

[Cinderblock]

He's insulated himself in such a fashion that people resort to charging back donations to troll him. That's his fault. A few impromptu Discord conversations don't make up for a streamer who banned over 8,000 accounts last year, doesn't respond to tweets, avoids Reddit, and has barely no chat interaction with those who aren't banned on Twitch. Other streamers deal with it all the time. Chargebacks are part of the business model as a full-time streamer based nearly exclusively on your content and your audience.

Imagine getting mad at the internet beacause of a fatso that's just a shitty streamer that bans people. Congrats. Banning people must be a punishable crime in the future.

 

[BoxcarBeethoven]

The only fake resume I can think of is the one I made up, and I made that up for fun to have a laugh with my friends. If there is another one it is well-buried ough that I haven't seen it, so I don't think he has anything to worry about.

I agree with you, things like this will stop him from trying. Figurative demons, real and imagined, are his worst enemy.

I don't think there is much chargeback risk for a single dispute or two. There probably is for multiple complaints, especially from the privilege perspective. Therefore, I think that it is a lot of risk for a measly message to be sent.

If you actively make it difficult for people to communicate with you, and people wish to troll you, they will find a way. He's insulated himself in such a fashion that people resort to charging back donations to troll him. That's his fault. A few impromptu Discord conversations don't make up for a streamer who banned over 8,000 accounts last year, doesn't respond to tweets, avoids Reddit, and has barely no chat interaction with those who aren't banned on Twitch. Other streamers deal with it all the time. Chargebacks are part of the business model as a full-time streamer based nearly exclusively on your content and your audience.

"Ban anyone that laughs." "Ban anyone who suggests different games to play." "Ban anyone who typed 2." "Ban anyone who asks about my weight loss from the surgery they paid for."

The lengths you go to to get his attention are absolutely exceptional.

What's your point? I made up a fake resume of his based on what he said he has done (and lied about). It's quality content because of his pathological lying over the last 10 years. Being a 911 operator, being a pro-Starcraft player, pretending he worked at a steel mill when he was 17, etc. I take responsibility for that. It's great material, why wouldn't I take responsibility for that?

People new to Wings don't know a lot of this stuff, so I share it. I think I make a good argument that it has absolutely no effect on him, so there is no counterpoint, no nefarious side to it. If one wanted to conjure up an effect it has on him, oddly enough, it is people planting the seed of this fake resume inside his egg-shaped head. This comes from the anti-troll/pro-Wings community. That's on them, although I'd be hypocritical if I said they had anything to apologize for (they don't).

You don't believe it has any effect on him and is only informative, so you took the website down?

http://archive.vn/WDrrL

 

[Noodles&Nuggets]

What's your point? I made up a fake resume of his based on what he said he has done (and lied about). It's quality content because of his pathological lying over the last 10 years. Being a 911 operator, being a pro-Starcraft player, pretending he worked at a steel mill when he was 17, etc. I take responsibility for that. It's great material, why wouldn't I take responsibility for that?

People new to Wings don't know a lot of this stuff, so I share it. I think I make a good argument that it has absolutely no effect on him, so there is no counterpoint, no nefarious side to it. If one wanted to conjure up an effect it has on him, oddly enough, it is people planting the seed of this fake resume inside his egg-shaped head. This comes from the anti-troll/pro-Wings community. That's on them, although I'd be hypocritical if I said they had anything to apologize for (they don't).

Wings is going to have a really hard time finding a real job because of his history on the internet. All of this is fun because he makes an ass out of himself every single day. You know what he didn't do? He didn't make a fake resume with a picture of his lardy rolls hanging over his cock on a domain with his real name.

We all know why Wings will struggle to find a job. And one of those reasons is that fake resume. Own it. Before that discord goes full a-log.

 

[Wings of Obesity]

The lengths you go to to get his attention are absolutely exceptional.

You don't believe it has any effect on him and is only informative, so you took the website down?

http://archive.vn/WDrrL

I've had nameserver issues since I started it up, and haven't got around to fixing them (I've never owned a domain before, still learning). It will fluctuate on the hour for most people! https://gyazo.com/d52a51f020193eb124a8d83110f61864

I'm pretty open about being a dedicated troll. It's fun. Guilty?

 

[Masta]

He is willing to take a minimum wage job over streaming that pays 3-4x as much? Same as the Boogie situation, maybe exhaust your resources and actually put out some creative content.

 

[Wings of Obesity]

Imagine getting mad at the internet beacause of a fatso that's just a shitty streamer that bans people. Congrats. Banning people must be a punishible crime in the future.

The point is, people get banned all the time, people chargeback all the time, and Wings finds a way to antagonize people to the point that they will pay money to send a message just like they would to Ninja. Again, it is part of the business, and he has substantive input into how much it is a part of HIS business. Apparently, he is too lazy or stupid (or as some would say, business savvy) to fix it. Not my style, but different strokes?

 

[Cinderblock]

I love how the "trolls" are so insecure about themselves that they feel the need to defend themselves in KF. The Dear leader's video didn't even reach 1000 views on youtube and they are already butt mad.