Worst RPG members ever

The only JRPG where I used every party member equally and they were all equally good is Chrono Trigger.
This is unabashedly untrue, Chrono has main character Syndrome really fucking bad, I am fairly certain he can outright solo the entire game without breaking a sweat in the DS version.

Then during the battle with Queen Zeal I use charm on her left and right hands to steal another prism helm and a prism dress. Then I repeat this twice more in 600 AD and 12000 BC to get enough prism helms and dresses for everyone in the first New Game+ without having to play multiple New Game+.
Prism Helm isn't even the best one, it has the best stats..but Haste Helm is outright OP. (And on Males the Nova Armor can give Status protection...and the Magic System in the game is so borked that the prism dress really isn't even needed)


Edit : PS for Mario RPG
GENO IS A FAGGOT, KING KOOPA FOREVER.
 
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When I play a brand new game, when Melchoir offers the choice between a prism dress or three prism helms I choose helms, then equip them on the party I'll use in the Black Omen, 1000 AD (it includes Ayla). Then during the battle with Queen Zeal I use charm on her left and right hands to steal another prism helm and a prism dress. Then I repeat this twice more in 600 AD and 12000 BC to get enough prism helms and dresses for everyone in the first New Game+ without having to play multiple New Game+.


Water element gets really screwed out of any powerful attacks, unfortunately, since it's meant for healing and cleansing and not attacking. Crono is the one who winds up with the equivalent of Holy.
Crono is also hands down the strongest attacker especially when he gets that Rainbow sword. 70 percent crit rate? Yes please.
 
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Prism Helm isn't even the best one, it has the best stats..but Haste Helm is outright OP. (And on Males the Nova Armor can give Status protection...and the Magic System in the game is so borked that the prism dress really isn't even needed)
You're not wrong, but its a good way to get some of the best equipment for everyone in a single playthrough.
Crono is also hands down the strongest attacker especially when he gets that Rainbow sword. 70 percent crit rate? Yes please.
In the DS version he has access to an even stronger sword with a 90% crit rate. Though I swear it's even higher because it's really rare when I don't land a crit with it.
 
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ou're not wrong, but its a good way to get some of the best equipment for everyone in a single playthrough
Well to be honest, Alya is really good just as an attacker, in the DS version I had Chrono/Ayla/Frog as my ultimate party because Chrono gets the upgraded Counter attack Accessory..Ayla gets the Crit rate/counter attack thing and Frog gets the upgraded Hero's Badge and unleash hell upon your foes.

Honestly ..Chrono Trigger has some real bad design issues especially in the DS version when you get upgraded versions of the broken shite. Chrono countering 75% of the time with a 90% chance of crit is outrageous given how many "Non damaging roars" are counted as physical attacks including the Final Bosses scream.
 
Any RPG that lets you create your own MC, because every death and fuck up is entirely your fault. You are the weak link, you the player, are infact the worst member.

this. i fucking hate this cat so much. i could tolerate teddies bullshit but this motherfucker, its unforgivable.

fuck you cat.

They were going to originally make him a dog or a fox but thought if they made him a type of canine that he would be hated.
 
Preston Garvey has terrible aim and harasses you constantly about side quests so he's a pretty solid bad one. Just use Piper or Nick since your followers are only good for killing bloatflies anyway.

Veronica was pretty terrible in New Vegas since she uses unarmed without power armor like a dipshit.

Butch. Fallout 3. That is all.

It's hard to call dogmeat bad since he's a dog but his love of running into forcefields and instantly dying makes him memorable.
 
Preston Garvey has terrible aim and harasses you constantly about side quests so he's a pretty solid bad one. Just use Piper or Nick since your followers are only good for killing bloatflies anyway.

Veronica was pretty terrible in New Vegas since she uses unarmed without power armor like a dipshit.

Butch. Fallout 3. That is all.

It's hard to call dogmeat bad since he's a dog but his love of running into forcefields and instantly dying makes him memorable.
If you give Veronica power armor and a ballistic fist she becomes an unstoppable kill tank that can single handedly clear out the fort.
 
Kongol is definitely niche, but I got him so overpowered he dropped the final boss in 1 or 2 swings.
That was also the run I killed all the optional bosses though.

Ff8 Selphie was also one for me, as I hated her random limit break. I know it can be used to be OP, but random will never be my style.
By that measure, wouldn't Haschel be able to do the same thing but at a faster rate due to better speed and his best weapon turns him into LoD Zell?

I agree with Selphie though. Slot requires lowest HP and menu-scumming while the enemy's ATB gauge is charging. That's a one in three chance of a lethal sucker-punch while you're busy fiddling with a menu so you don't skip on an OP spell. I actually found Quistis with degenerator more consistent in killing big non-bosses.
James Vega from mass effect 3, because he replaced having a Krogon party member. Thats fucking bullshit.
And doesn't have a Krogan AI to get in people's faces. It's also really goddamn silly when a husk grabs him and he can't fight them off. How many pull-ups does that guy do? Even nerdy Engineer Shepard can fight off a husk in a fistfight.
 
If you give Veronica power armor and a ballistic fist she becomes an unstoppable kill tank that can single handedly clear out the fort.
I preferred giving Veronica Pushy but that works too
 
By that measure, wouldn't Haschel be able to do the same thing but at a faster rate due to better speed and his best weapon turns him into LoD Zell?
Maybe.
But I never really used haschel.
I was never very good at his combos, so I just minimized him. Not that I think he is a bad character, just that I'm bad at him.
 
In Fire Emblem games i usually tend to not use prepromotes since i think the charm of the games is to see your underdogs become into killing machines. To i do commit exceptions when i like the character (Harken in FE7, Zeke in Echoes) or they are so OP you are stupid for not using them (Ced in FE5, the Laguz kings in FE10)

People mentioned Chrono trigger and IMO the worst character in that game is Marle, IIRC one of her triple techs with Chrono and Luca is the earliest you can use dark magic in the game, but besides that her only standout potential is as a support, and i think Robo and Frog have her beaten in that regard.

In Devil Survivor 1 vanilla physical characters are kind of underwhelming since the best physical move in that game is deathbound, which is mediocre compared to the dances you can learn, specially holy dance. But in overclocked they added a bunch of new phys moves from DeSu 2 like multi hit, which paired by pierce makes physical characters destroy everything that doesn't reflect phys, but a character who never got such a buff despite needing it heavily is Yuzu. Leaving aside that she is annoying as hell, she, alongside Amane, are the only 2 characters in the game with 3 mov instead of 4, meaning she will always be behind everyone unless she always has a wilder or avian demon on her team, but unlike amane who joins late in the game where you probably have a bunch of demons of those races, Yuzu joins at the start, so her 3 mov is more painful until you get one of those demons, specially with the amount of "save NPC" missions there are in the game, and she also gets outclassed by all other mages who not only have 4 mov, but have better stat spreads (Amane, Midori, Mari). Also touching a bit on the 2nd game, i never used Fumi despite being one of the best characters because of how annoying she is, the same goes to Daichi although he is useless as well as annoying.
 
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In Fire Emblem games i usually tend to not use prepromotes since i think the charm of the games is to see your underdogs become into killing machines. To i do commit exceptions when i like the character (Harken in FE7, Zeke in Echoes) or they are so OP you are stupid for not using them (Ced in FE5, the Laguz kings in FE10)

People mentioned Chrono trigger and IMO the worst character in that game is Marle, IIRC one of her triple techs with Chrono and Luca is the earliest you can use dark magic in the game, but besides that her only standout potential is as a support, and i think Robo and Frog have her beaten in that regard.

In Devil Survivor 1 vanilla physical characters are kind of underwhelming since the best physical move in that game is deathbound, which is mediocre compared to the dances you can learn, specially holy dance. But in overclocked they added a bunch of new phys moves from DeSu 2 like multi hit, which paired by pierce makes physical characters destroy everything that doesn't reflect phys, but a character who never got such a buff despite needing it heavily is Yuzu. Leaving aside that she is annoying as hell, she, alongside Amane, are the only 2 characters in the game with 3 mov instead of 4, meaning she will always be behind everyone unless she always has a wilder or avian demon on her team, but unlike amane who joins late in the game where you probably have a bunch of demons of those races, Yuzu joins at the start, so her 3 mov is more painful until you get one of those demons, specially with the amount of "save NPC" missions there are in the game, and she also gets outclassed by all other mages who not only have 4 mov, but have better stat spreads (Amane, Midori, Mari). Also touching a bit on the 2nd game, i never used Fumi despite being one of the best characters because of how annoying she is, the same goes to Daichi although he is useless as well as annoying.

Seth in the Sacred Stones is pretty good for a prepremote if I remember correctly.
 
People mentioned Chrono trigger and IMO the worst character in that game is Marle, IIRC one of her triple techs with Chrono and Luca is the earliest you can use dark magic in the game, but besides that her only standout potential is as a support, and i think Robo and Frog have her beaten in that regard.
Early to mid game Marle's healing techs are invaluable but eventually that role is easily covered by other characters, and her damage techs are really not that fantastic. At least Frog brings pretty solid melee damage to the table, Marle's fairly weak. Marle also only really has killer synergy with Lucca and Crono.
 
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Saw vid on it and got an idea

Who are some of the worst RPG party members that you absolutely refuse to use in your party?

Here's some popular ones:


Merrill
This is terrible, she's the best tank in DA2. That's like saying you final party isn't a properly set up Aveline, Varric, and Merrill for your massively broken Mage Hawke. Sure, she's eccentric and a might annoying, but atleast she can wear pants and tank with her face.

Sakura (Fire Emblem)
I agree with this. She's only useful until you have a team full of hybrid healer units and self-heals for everyone. Because Hoshido isn't broken enough. After that her primary use is passing on stupid magic growth to a second gen character, and maybe Renewal. And it's not even like it's that important, Fates isn't the Eugenics Simulator Awakening is.
 
Eiko in FF9. She's a white mage and summoner just like Dagger, did we really need two? She's incredibly annoying in the story. And her outfit is terrible and makes me think the designer was a pedo.

Edit: Amarant sucks too. So much that I almost forgot he existed. You get him super late in the game, he's pretty useless and he looks stupid.
 
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All npc's that can join your party in Temple of Elemental Evil. All of them are pretty much gold diggers, taking all the loot from you.
I wouldn't play ToEE without mods, and that's the main reason why. They wanted to make it so you couldn't just keep all the good stuff for yourself but had to treat the NPCs fairly, so they always took their share of loot and you couldn't just trade with them.

But of course that doesn't work, they'd always take a bunch of stuff they couldn't use, keeping it from you, and would over-encumber themselves to the point of uselessness. So the game is virtually unplayable unless you mod back in the ability to trade with your NPCs - which I imagine was made within, like, a day of the game's release, it's such a bad implementation of an already bad idea.
 
The funny thing is that in the GBA and PSP versions of the game he can be pretty powerful when you can re-recruit him. He gets a bunch of much better harps and he can deal a lot of damage thanks to that. You can also get an accessory to upgrade his fairly useless sing ability to the chant ability that applies Protect and Shell on the entire party. Also due to how stat growth works in the non-DS versions of the game, it is very possible for him to get 99 Strength.
I was actually thinking about that as I was typing up my post, and you're not wrong, but by that time you have access to everyone else (minus Tella) and he's not likely to be anyone's first or second (or third) choice.
 
I wouldn't play ToEE without mods, and that's the main reason why. They wanted to make it so you couldn't just keep all the good stuff for yourself but had to treat the NPCs fairly, so they always took their share of loot and you couldn't just trade with them.

But of course that doesn't work, they'd always take a bunch of stuff they couldn't use, keeping it from you, and would over-encumber themselves to the point of uselessness. So the game is virtually unplayable unless you mod back in the ability to trade with your NPCs - which I imagine was made within, like, a day of the game's release, it's such a bad implementation of an already bad idea.
Does anyone actually play ToEE without stuff like Circle of 8? A lot of those mods are straight-up QoL because Troika does like half of a good job and ends up rushing the rest or biting off more than they can chew.
 
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