Would you rather be stuck in a forest with a bear or a man? - aka Debate user doodoocaca on the validity of rape victims

Would you rather be stuck in a forest with a bear or a man?

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Seanut Arbuckle said:
Would you rather be stuck in a forest with a bear? or George Floyd?

Caveats of this:
1. Floyd will not have any fent and will indeed be capable of breathing in this situation but he will have the gun he held up to a pregnant lady.

2. answer this question as if a video of your response attached with your full name and address and employer will be sent to all of black twitter, the ADL, the SPLC, the front page of reddit, and will be broadcast on MSNBC and CNN at peak hours for a 5 minute segment on racism today.
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Is George Floyd a man? The fuck do you think.
 
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DOUBLE_WHEEL said:
This shit is going to eventually end with a bunch of dumb women dying to bears isn't it?
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God I'll be pouring out a tall glass of schadenfreude if it comes to be.

Jimjamflimflam said:
Even sealife have been attacking humans. Orcas have been based by attacking migrant ships in the Mediterranean.
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Dolphins will try to rape a human fyi.

So I posit this, you are on a raft at sea after a shipwreck, would you rather a pod of dolphins or a boat with a few dudes roll up?
 
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Jimjamflimflam said:

Can I choose bears?
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I mean a bear at sea is probably just gonna be a Tardigrade?

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Also, I sorta think this whole thing is a bit of a psyop to demonize survivalist / reason types that would be knowledgeable about nature. They are the ones that are more likely to try to correct somebody about why you should probably hope for the man.

Either way something is suspect about the trend since everywhere I see this argument it tends to play out the same shitty way.

Basically demonizes a person using logic and elevates those that use emotional thinking. Which those in power love, since it keeps people fighting.

lol found this poem:
 
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Ebonic Tutor said:
God I'll be pouring out a tall glass of schadenfreude if it comes to be.



Dolphins will try to rape a human fyi.

So I posit this, you are on a raft at sea after a shipwreck, would you rather a pod of dolphins or a boat with a few dudes roll up?
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I'd rather be stuck in a forest with a dolphin than a woman, the dolphin would be easier to rape and less likely to go to the authorities
 
MIC Shill said:
Women are hyperbolic and dramatic creatures. They don't ACTUALLY mean they choose death, despite them saying otherwise.

“We know the bear means death. We choose death.” No you don’t. Not really. You’re a histrionic and hysterical woman who wants to pretend like she’s super afraid of men to make a point. None of you choose the bear, you prove that with your actions everyday.

You can trash can react all day, doesn't change the fact I'm right and you know it.
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I saw a histrionic woman posting about how it’s not about the danger of the bear, it’s not about how “No not all men feel about this”, but how “YES all women live with this fear”. I suddenly remembered identical verbiage of having to sit through a HR exercise where they specially mentioned “yes all women” and it started to click. This is based off a long standing feminism power exercise that makes ALL men accountable for the perception to danger by ANY women. I remember the smirks and smiles of the more feminist women during that as they got off on the power they were weilding, as if they had any real genuine fear they wouldn’t be peacocking around.

I think the reason we are seeing autistic reactions in this thread as this is a kafkatrapping of an entire people, to reboot the “metoo and yes all women” movement. If you tell people, because of who you are it’s ok for everyone to assume you are a rapist monster and if you react negatively to this it proves you don’t understand we are the victims, you’ll get blowback. Because it was designed to get maximum blowback.

The poster who alluded to agreeing with them and applying it to race has the right idea. Either it’s acceptable to have guilt by association or identity or it isn’t. Hypocrisy is the way to flip their script, as they have to double think their way around saying some immutable characteristics are ok to antagonize over others.
 
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greenthrowaway said:
I saw a histrionic woman posting about how it’s not about the danger of the bear, it’s not about how “No not all men feel about this”, but how “YES all women live with this fear”. I suddenly remembered identical verbiage of having to sit through a HR exercise where they specially mentioned “yes all women” and it started to click. This is based off a long standing feminism power exercise that makes ALL men accountable for the perception to danger by ANY women. I remember the smirks and smiles of the more feminist women during that as they got off on the power they were weilding, as if they had any real genuine fear they wouldn’t be peacocking around.

I think the reason we are seeing autistic reactions in this thread as this is a kafkatrapping of an entire people, to reboot the “metoo and yes all women” movement. If you tell people, because of who you are it’s ok for everyone to assume you are a rapist monster and if you react negatively to this it proves you don’t understand we are the victims, you’ll get blowback. Because it was designed to get maximum blowback.

The poster who alluded to agreeing with them and applying it to race has the right idea. Either it’s acceptable to have guilt by association or identity or it isn’t. Hypocrisy is the way to flip their script, as they have to double think their way around saying some immutable characteristics are ok to antagonize over others.
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You've kind of nailed what I've been trying to convey about it, the whole thing is kind of like a "progressive stack at occupy" type of exercise to break up men and women since all the groups are kind of starting to agree in liberal circles about jewish stuff I suspect? I was approaching it wrong with the idea that it was meant to target survivalist types.

This is meant to break up the protests at college campuses about Israel v Palestine stuff I bet... it all just kind of makes sense timing wise, perfect way to get men and women at each others throats while they get to distract from that, however you feel about it.
 
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greenthrowaway said:
If you tell people, because of who you are it’s ok for everyone to assume you are a rapist monster and if you react negatively to this it proves you don’t understand we are the victims, you’ll get blowback. Because it was designed to get maximum blowback.
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Correct.
greenthrowaway said:
The poster who alluded to agreeing with them and applying it to race has the right idea. Either it’s acceptable to have guilt by association or identity or it isn’t. Hypocrisy is the way to flip their script, as they have to double think their way around saying some immutable characteristics are ok to antagonize over others.
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I made a similar point, but so have a couple of others. The difference is that while men (including white men) are violent, do bad things, they do not so on a categorical level to fairly assign guilt collectively. That's not the case with black propensity for violence and their "racial commitment to crime" to make an allusion to the dinner table scene in American History X. So it is not just that they are hypocritical, it is that they skew statistics that are there but do not typify (white) men categorically and use that in order to categorize all white men while refusing to do that with blacks even though that makes sense logically and in conformance with statistics and observable, repeatable patterns.
 
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greenthrowaway said:
I think the reason we are seeing autistic reactions in this thread as this is a kafkatrapping of an entire people, to reboot the “metoo and yes all women” movement. If you tell people, because of who you are it’s ok for everyone to assume you are a rapist monster and if you react negatively to this it proves you don’t understand we are the victims, you’ll get blowback. Because it was designed to get maximum blowback.
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So, what's the out to the Kafkatrap here?
 
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N Space said:
Women rape
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Give me her #
Ebonic Tutor said:
This is meant to break up the protests at college campuses about Israel v Palestine stuff I bet... it all just kind of makes sense timing wise, perfect way to get men and women at each others throats while they get to distract from that, however you feel about it.
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Men or women, our hate for the jews is what unite us
 
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Halfnium Bomb said:
So, what's the out to the Kafkatrap here?
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That by pointing out the rhetorical nature of the bear vs man argument that it proves you contribute to the fear that all women face around men. That when they say all women fear rape, and you argue that may be true but not all men contribute to rape, only a mere minority, they counter with Yes all women.

The trap in language was designed to aggravate you, and make you unable to defend either their hyperbole or their attack on your identity. Because it is emotionally charged, to undermine it you don’t point out the fallacy but instead apply it to an identity (blacks) that they will be unable to maintain consistently with. That all asians fear the presence of blacks as they are disproportionately their attackers. If yes all women applies, so does yes all asians.

I also didn’t consider the inorganic nature of this until @Ebonic Tutor mentioned it. The timing and push for this is incredibly suspect. A very convenient time to bring back #metoo when it’s been dead in the water since Depp v Heard. It took some top down influence to push this as far as it’s gotten.
 
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greenthrowaway said:
The timing and push for this is incredibly suspect. A very convenient time to bring back #metoo when it’s been dead in the water since Depp v Heard. It took some top down influence to push this as far as it’s gotten.
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Whoever devised the question was a devious motherfucker that much is certain, I think it would have been taken differently if the early tick tok girls for it went with dudes some though. Thing is as you said, it was never designed to be a fair question, it's being used to jam fudged statistics and drive a wedge between the genders since everybody is getting kinda fed up atm.
 
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