Xbox Game Studios Stupidity Hate Thread Game Pass Edition

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Gamecube was a more powerful console than the PS2

why did the retards at nintendo decide to use minidisks instead of full size like everyone else or even adopt that "blue ocean" strategy.

 

[Pissmaster]

Imagine paying for a service where you still have to wait 5 minutes to get into a laggy game AND THEN defend it as "isn't terrible".

The major selling point of this generation is an eradication of loading times thanks to NVMe SSDs, yet somehow we've also got 5-30 minute-long queues for the goys to play their goyslop they don't own. What a weird time, right?

The Sony faggots don't seem to understand that the reason why the PS5 is outselling the Xbox Series X is because the PS5 is only a marginally less shitty console than the Series X. Sony fags don't want to accept that they're never getting another PS2.

Hell, I would have argued that the Series X had an advantage with the backwards compatibility and Play Anywhere features, but that's dashed with their nixing of physical copies. Must be weird to have a collection of Series X-only discs that'll only play on the first model of consoles from the generation. I'll bet collecting them will be super cheap.

why did the retards at nintendo decide to use minidisks instead of full size like everyone else

Piracy concerns

or even adopt that "blue ocean" strategy.

because Gamecube was a strong machine, but couldn't compete against Xbox and PS2, so they went for a brand new market with the Wii. It worked very well for them for a couple of years, but then the fad died off.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Gamecube was a strong machine, but couldn't compete against Xbox and PS2

exactly what i'm arguing with the other guy about.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

exactly what i'm arguing with the other guy about.

You called it underpowered you mong

 

[Pissmaster]

exactly what i'm arguing with the other guy about.

It couldn't compete because it wasn't getting a lot of licensed games that appealed to teenagers and older at the time. No GTA, no Max Payne, no Silent Hill. It could have run them very well, but Nintendo had pissed off a lot of third parties during the N64, and they'd even go on to lose Rare that generation. The power and potential is there, but what good is it when there's nothing to play?

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

The major selling point of this generation is an eradication of loading times thanks to NVMe SSDs, yet somehow we've also got 5-30 minute-long queues for the goys to play their goyslop they don't own. What a weird time, right?

I've never thought of it that way, you've blown my mind. Your example shows the division between hardware and software. It seems the hardware is aimed at a group who have been alienated by the modern-day software market. Brutal.

 

[ZMOT]

It's weird that people still think Sony isn't losing their ass with the PS5 and it's overpriced slop games just as much as Xbox is.

The console space in general is in shambles.

I never said they're not losing, they are just not losing as hard as microsoft. again the "hi def" console space will always exist because there will always be demand for it, which nintendo can not or doesn't want to supply. it doesn't even matter how "good" sony is as long as there are enough dumb people buying their consoles, services and games.

Soon, and I think it may already be upon us, the gamers of that generation will find consoles too complicated and will settle for phone-only dopamine hits.

we're already there. remember the handholding in GOW ragnarok? people want their 4k goyslop, but it better be simple and easy.

Sony may be able to make money, but it's a shadow and a fraction of what they used to. The pond is getting smaller and may not be small for even one big fish.

sony will just do what companies have done for ever: cut costs. there will still be a new playstation, but less AAA shovelware and the ones that survive will be made much cheaper. ask yourself, do any of the casuals even care about all the "gameplay improvements" of TLOU2?

and that's before you start to count how many people just buy a playstation for fifa, cod and fortnite who don't care about sonyslop in the first place (or maybe buy it because it's the new shiny FOTM to play a bit and then never touch it again).

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

in the end it's much more likely that sony will still be able to make money, or more than microsoft. sometimes the pond is too small for two big fish.

I've always argued that the industry was never big enough for three competitors. Because there were three, what you got was one company running away with any given generation, while the other two companies cannibalized each other's sales and failed to break even. The industry was at its strongest when there was just two companies, Sega and Nintendo, duking it out and establishing clear, separate markets. The Xbox and PS3 basically just homogenized, while Nintendo just did their thing, and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't, and the industry was worse off for it.

It couldn't compete because it wasn't getting a lot of licensed games that appealed to teenagers and older at the time. No GTA, no Max Payne, no Silent Hill. It could have run them very well, but Nintendo had pissed off a lot of third parties during the N64, and they'd even go on to lose Rare that generation. The power and potential is there, but what good is it when there's nothing to play?

While certain third parties not getting onboard was an issue, the PS2 also had an insurmountable full year lead (the Gamecube was supposed to launch at the same time, but had to be delayed because the games weren't ready) and used the fact that it was a DVD player to give it an advantage in Japan.

 

[The Last Stand]

I was referring to the PlayStation 5 and only the PlayStation 5 with that post which has surpassed 50 million sold consoles.

Not exactly a "win" if you think about Sony's direction with lack of preservation, originality with exclusives and their botched PSPortal machine. People will buy anything. Want to buy a vowel?

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

I never said they're not losing, they are just not losing as hard as microsoft. again the "hi def" console space will always exist because there will always be demand for it, which nintendo can not or doesn't want to supply. it doesn't even matter how "good" sony is as long as there are enough dumb people buying their consoles, services and games.

You're basing all of this on console sales figures when that is an awful measure of profitability as console sales don't generate a profit as they are sold at a loss.

You're also completely ignoring the fact that based on the recent numbers we've seen from the leaks, there are in fact NOT enough people buying their services and games.

"Hi def consoles will always exist" is also a little presumptuous, especially since the trend has been shifting towards mobile and handheld.

 

[The Last Stand]

"Hi def consoles will always exist" is also a little presumptuous, especially since the trend has been shifting towards mobile and handheld.

Not exactly. Live service titles are the current trend. Switch games don't count as handheld as that's a home console.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

The switch is a handheld and that fact is seen in the sales figures.
I can plug my phone into a TV, that doesn't make it a console.

 

[ZMOT]

You're basing all of this on console sales figures when that is an awful measure of profitability as console sales don't generate a profit as they are sold at a loss.

You're also completely ignoring the fact that based on the recent numbers we've seen from the leaks, there are in fact NOT enough people buying their services and games.

"Hi def consoles will always exist" is also a little presumptuous, especially since the trend has been shifting towards mobile and handheld.

not all consoles sell at a loss, I think nintendo at least comes out even. cost also changes with refined models.
however it's a moot metric anyway when they're just loss-leaders to get people onto the platform. that's like saying there's no market for home printers when they are sold at a loss too when the goal is to fleece you via ink.

the market shrinking doesn't mean there won't be money to be made, remember lot of companies were retarded enough to think the corona-years were not an exception but the new normal. companies kvetching about lower profits now is just like squeenix complaining about 5 millions sales - the problem aren't the sales, it's the bloated budget and retarded expectations. or as the germans say "whining on a high level".

most of what we're seeing is the inevitable market correction, not the market dissolving as a whole. or look at this way: if consoles stop getting sold tomorrow, you think people are gonna buy PCs for their living room? or play fifa/cod on mobile? there's a reason people keep using their ps4.

The switch is a handheld and that fact is seen in the sales figures.
I can plug my phone into a TV, that doesn't make it a console.

it's both since it works as both. treating it separate like wii/3ds is short-sighted. if anything you'd have to go by use cases, since there's simply no other way than buying a switch to play bing bing wahoo even when you only play it at home.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

The switch is a handheld and that fact is seen in the sales figures.
I can plug my phone into a TV, that doesn't make it a console.

it's both since it works as both. treating it separate like wii/3ds is short-sighted. if anything you'd have to go by use cases, since there's simply no other way than buying a switch to play bing bing wahoo even when you only play it at home.

Nintendo's official word is that its a home console that can be used like a handheld. Everybody else just calls it a hybrid and moves on.

 

[starborn427614]

Looks like Thursday's the big day.

 

[whatever I feel like]

I've always argued that the industry was never big enough for three competitors. Because there were three, what you got was one company running away with any given generation, while the other two companies cannibalized each other's sales and failed to break even. The industry was at its strongest when there was just two companies, Sega and Nintendo, duking it out and establishing clear, separate markets. The Xbox and PS3 basically just homogenized, while Nintendo just did their thing, and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't, and the industry was worse off for it.



While certain third parties not getting onboard was an issue, the PS2 also had an insurmountable full year lead (the Gamecube was supposed to launch at the same time, but had to be delayed because the games weren't ready) and used the fact that it was a DVD player to give it an advantage in Japan.

The PC Engine shared that 16 bit market with SNES and Genny. Having three competitors isn't as rare as you'd think.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

The PC Engine shared that 16 bit market with SNES and Genny. Having three competitors isn't as rare as you'd think.

Hey, I owned a TurboGrafix-16 at one point. But lets be honest: everybody who wasn't Sega or Nintendo were basically an also-ran.

 

[Broseph]

The PC Engine shared that 16 bit market with SNES and Genny. Having three competitors isn't as rare as you'd think.

And look how well that worked out for them. I mean sure the PC Engine was really popular in Japan but it was a complete flop in the US.

 

[The Last Stand]

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Looks like Thursday's the big day.

Calling it, Xbox Game Pass will be coming to PlayStation and Nintendo platforms. They'll try to restructure their Xbox brand to focus on console output short term. There will be another Xbox within four years. It's going to mention the Activision buyout for upcoming titles coming to XGP. MAYBE something about Ubisoft.

 

[Pissmaster]

And look how well that worked out for them. I mean sure the PC Engine was really popular in Japan but it was a complete flop in the US.

I have no memory of the Turbografx 16/PC Engine existing when I was a kid. No memory of seeing its games or consoles on shelves, or anything. I didn't know anyone with one. It's just one of those things I discovered when the internet told me it existed.

What kind of name is PC Engine, anyway? It has the engine of a personal computer? What?