Xbox Game Studios Stupidity Hate Thread Game Pass Edition

[xXx: State of the Union]

I have no memory of the Turbografx 16/PC Engine existing when I was a kid. No memory of seeing its games or consoles on shelves, or anything. I didn't know anyone with one. It's just one of those things I discovered when the internet told me it existed.

What kind of name is PC Engine, anyway? It has the engine of a personal computer? What?

I always assumed it was British shit tbqh

None of that shit existed around me. You had Nintendo, Sega and Sony on the store shelves and rental shelves, the rest of that shit was just weird code sections in tips and tricks. 3D0, Neo Geo, Turbografx all just seemed like dumb knock off shit probably from other countries.

 

[starborn427614]

I always assumed it was British shit tbqh

None of that shit existed around me. You had Nintendo, Sega and Sony on the store shelves and rental shelves, the rest of that shit was just weird code sections in tips and tricks. 360, Neo Geo, Turbografx all just seemed like dumb knock off shit probably from other countries.

Based on my very limited knowledge of the TG-16, it was a fairly big deal in Japan because its arcade ports were so good.

 

[Super Hans v2]

Calling it, Xbox Game Pass will be coming to PlayStation and Nintendo platforms. They'll try to restructure their Xbox brand to focus on console output short term. There will be another Xbox within four years. It's going to mention the Activision buyout for upcoming titles coming to XGP. MAYBE something about Ubisoft.

I think we'd have heard rumors coming out of the Nintendo and Sony camps too if Game Pass were coming to their consoles too. Something that big would've been in negotiation for a long time.

My longshot prediction is that MS takes a cue from Valve and semi-announces their next console, implying it's going to be a PC locked down to the Windows Store. It lets them have a product of their own to generate passive revenue from third parties without having to put in ass much effort as a true console.

 

[The Last Stand]

What kind of name is PC Engine, anyway? It has the engine of a personal computer? What?

PC, personal computer. The name brand derived from NEC personal computers made from 1982 to 2000.

 

[starborn427614]

According to this, Sea of Thieves will also be coming to other consoles. PS5 and Switch 2, if I had to make a guess.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

The Sony faggots don't seem to understand that the reason why the PS5 is outselling the Xbox Series X is because the PS5 is only a marginally less shitty console than the Series X. Sony fags don't want to accept that they're never getting another PS2.

At this stage I'd at least take another PS3. At least we got stuff like Puppeteer and Tokyo Jungle.

As for GameCube, people forget that the minidiscs were for piracy prevention and it worked.

 

[Pissmaster]

I always assumed it was British shit tbqh

None of that shit existed around me. You had Nintendo, Sega and Sony on the store shelves and rental shelves, the rest of that shit was just weird code sections in tips and tricks. 360, Neo Geo, Turbografx all just seemed like dumb knock off shit probably from other countries.

The way all that other stuff filed in my head was, like, in a category of other oddball electronics. Computers and stuff. Tiger Electronics handhelds and electronic chessboards.

It was the 90s, we didn't have the internet to clarify brands and products in seconds, so you could have told me that Gateway 2000 was a game system and I'd believe you until I saw one with a Windows desktop. So when I heard about stray systems like the TG-16 and the Neo-Geo, they were just filed along with other things I didn't know much about. I'd see ads for games in assorted magazines with the ATI Rage logo in the corner, and I don't have a clue what an ATI Rage is, but my parents probably won't buy it for me, and I'm very happy with my Nintendo anyway.

I never even thought about gaming overseas until I got older. Hell, I didn't even know very many other kids had any kind of video games at all, since other kids in elementary rarely ever seemed to have any games whatsoever. I grew up, I got online, and I see people commonly talking about "schoolyard rumors" for games, but, uh, no. And it's not like I grew up in the sticks, either. Other kids liked sports, music, and TV shows they watched with their parents. I was the odd one out for talking about video games at all.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Why would Xbox have a podcast to announce their games coming to other consoles?

There has to be some major positive news to help spin the clusterfuck that is the current (since 2010) xbox department.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

I knew one person that had a TG16. Many many years ago as a child I used to live in an apartment in Flushing Queens and the 2nd floor family had a son that was my best friend. He had both a Nintendo and a TG16 and the game he had for it was Bonk.

The system stood out to me because of it's cartridges that looked like trading cards. Also Bonk was pretty cool, got past the 1st boss (eggshell wearing dinosaur). Playing it as an adult though... shit get's tough as nails in the later stages and it's one of those "must farm for lives in the beginning" games.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Why would Xbox have a podcast to announce their games coming to other consoles?

There has to be some major positive news to help spin the clusterfuck that is the current (since 2010) xbox department.

They'll make up some bullshit about why its actually good for Xbox gamers that their system suddenly has no exclusives. And, honestly, for multiplayer titles having PS gamers in the ecosystem might honestly be a good thing. Sucks that the two leaked launch titles for the initiative are both small single-party games of the type that only appeal to hardcore fans. Good job buying the system that doesn't give out perks like that anymore, guys.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Hi Fi Rush looks interesting. I heard good things about it before.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Hi Fi Rush looks interesting. I heard good things about it before.

its good. real good

 

[starborn427614]

its good. real good

This. It's a rare example of a rhythm action game that's still fun even if you've got two left feet. Not to mention it's genuinely funny in a way that most games like this always get wrong.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

 

[The Last Stand]

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I don't get it. Sega and Xbox worked closely for a few projects.

 

[Product Placement]

MS's real issue is the 360 was the time when they should have been building up new devs and buying companies. They failed to do that and start of Xbone pissed away any good will they had with their number of fuck ups.

Phil Spencer did identify the issues XBOX faced. GamePass and BC was a good way to get back some of the good will they had lost, and he did start expanding the XBOX dev line up. However, most of the purchases didn't show fruit until 2023, three years into their next console line up, it was too late for it to dramatically change the fate of the XBox Series Consoles. Add to the fact, the first big game, Starfield, is now seen as a disappointment and after the first month will have moved all the consoles it was going to.

I've been expecting for years to see their GAAS output like Sea of Thieves make it to other platforms. I also thought the Switch could end up with smaller titles they published or some of their old back catalogue, but never thought it would go beyond that, like it seems to be going.

XBox Series consoles are selling like shit, and now with the purchase Activision, the heads of MS want to see growth and a return of investment in XBOX, only way they are going to get that is by publishing games on other systems. No way they could turn the Series sales around and with a more powerful Switch around the corner that will just make things worse.

But if they go all in of new games being multiplatform even if they come 1 year later, why would any one buy an XBOX console over a PlayStation? This is pretty much going to kill XBOX hardware unless they come up with something different. Like Switch, like a console with power in the ballpark of the next PlayStation or maybe a XBOX branded PC, that runs a more console-like version of Windows and also allows use of steam and other markets stores.

 

[JustWant2PlayVidya]

Hi Fi Rush looks interesting. I heard good things about it before.

It's the best standalone title I've played on my xbox in recent memory by a country mile..

I couldn't give less of a shit about platform exclusives and all that bollocks, as far as I am concerned the more people able to enjoy a title the better.

I wish xcloud was a bit more functional and I haven't updated to a new gen xb yet because I don't have any reason to, every xsx exclusive has been playable via cloud to date. I will inevitably pick up a new console when needs demand it.

Either way, all this fretting about xboxs future seems a bit ott.

Just wanna play vidya bros

 

[TheHarbinger]

Phil Spencer did identify the issues XBOX faced. GamePass and BC was a good way to get back some of the good will they had lost, and he did start expanding the XBOX dev line up.

Gamepass is a failure currently. You take away the $1 promotion subs and the free subs and family plans all Microsoft employees get and the service has to be hemorrhaging money. And this doesn't even factor in how Gamepass cannibalizes game sales. And their backwards compatible strategy is going to be a disaster when they abandon Xbox and now everyone's library are stuck in a dead ecosystem.

If the Xbox brand is a dead end then you won't even be able to restore any game you uninstall if the servers are dead. And any digital only games or DLC will be lost outside of niche piracy groups. This is a problem with lots of Xbox and 360 titles where they are literally impossible to purchase anywhere and are not available or supported by the modern consoles.

But if they go all in of new games being multiplatform even if they come 1 year later, why would any one buy an XBOX console over a PlayStation?

What games that Xbox or Microsoft makes does anyone even care about? Stuff like Starfield or Diablo IV that will die off in weeks? Does anyone really care what he next Elder Scrolls or Starcraft game will be if the current teams are making them?

Microsoft's strategy is pretty obvious. Purchase tons of franchises and old games. Convert them to service and subscription games. Remove the ability for consumers to purchase or own them. Want to own Halo or Warcraft III or Doom? You need to pay to access them monthly from now on. Fail to pay and you lose all of your games.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Gamepass is a failure currently. You take away the $1 promotion subs and the free subs and family plans all Microsoft employees get and the service has to be hemorrhaging money. And this doesn't even factor in how Gamepass cannibalizes game sales. And their backwards compatible strategy is going to be a disaster when they abandon Xbox and now everyone's library are stuck in a dead ecosystem.

If the Xbox brand is a dead end then you won't even be able to restore any game you uninstall if the servers are dead. And any digital only games or DLC will be lost outside of niche piracy groups. This is a problem with lots of Xbox and 360 titles where they are literally impossible to purchase anywhere and are not available or supported by the modern consoles.

What games that Xbox or Microsoft makes does anyone even care about? Stuff like Starfield or Diablo IV that will die off in weeks? Does anyone really care what he next Elder Scrolls or Starcraft game will be if the current teams are making them?

Microsoft's strategy is pretty obvious. Purchase tons of franchises and old games. Convert them to service and subscription games. Remove the ability for consumers to purchase or own them. Want to own Halo or Warcraft III or Doom? You need to pay to access them monthly from now on. Fail to pay and you lose all of your games.

If you think that people don't care about Warcraft, Doom, TES or Diablo anymore then you are incredibly out of touch with gaming trends.

 

[ZMOT]

Gamepass is a failure currently. You take away the $1 promotion subs and the free subs and family plans all Microsoft employees get and the service has to be hemorrhaging money. And this doesn't even factor in how Gamepass cannibalizes game sales. And their backwards compatible strategy is going to be a disaster when they abandon Xbox and now everyone's library are stuck in a dead ecosystem.

gamepass will always be a failure unless microsoft manages to capture the vast majority of the market to force people onto their service, which will never happen.
for now the basic calculation is cheap monthly fee = $70+ game, the problem is microsoft is paying the difference in the background. so once the fee goes up it becomes less attractive, and with being on gamepass killing standalone sales, there's no reason for devs/publishers to take the money unless it's high enough.

it was a nice idea to get people onto the xbox microsoft platform, but in true microsoft fashion they still misunderstood or simply didn't care why something like steam was successful.

If you think that people don't care about Warcraft, Doom, TES or Diablo anymore then you are incredibly out of touch with gaming trends.

ah yes, the grand successes of warcraft reforged, nu-doom but worse, fantasy starfield or diablo "get fucked via update" 4.

also none of those are games that are suitable for gamepass, or not in a way people play them.