$ (XMR) Monero

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Fellow Monero extremists, the supreme leader of this website lost confidence in XMR.

Since it changes over the years, a lot of people outside crypto circles can't follow what is the latest and best way to get Monero, so let's try to establish an up to date way to obtain it:
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Let me know if you have anything to add, or if something is erroneous. I personally just use Kraken and mining, so I don't have a lot of personal experience with other services.
You can buy any shitcoin from any exchange, then atmonic swap it with a trustworthy exchange over TOR/I2P to get Monero, sure there are more fees, but you still have it.
I think Null has fallen into the common pitfall of hating something for its qualities because it becomes difficult to access.
 
You can buy any shitcoin from any exchange, then atmonic swap it with a trustworthy exchange over TOR/I2P to get Monero, sure there are more fees, but you still have it.
I think Null has fallen into the common pitfall of hating something for its qualities because it becomes difficult to access.
Accessibility is a huge obstacle for adoption. If XMR was as accessible as LTC, LTC might not exist.
 
Most of the coins with open ledgers are even better for the government than real money, monero is the only one that poses a real problem hence it being fairly restricted
I'm always amazed when people use BTC for outright illegal shit that could get them arrested for actual crimes. Seriously, you choose a non-repudiable currency where you have the keys to do stuff that gets you locked up for life and they throw away the keys (after taking your money)?

Okey dokey Dread Pirate. . .Ross Ulbricht.
 
For the guy that was asking about buying/selling Monero with cash (either IRL meetups or cash-by-mail), there was a moment where LocalMonero was down and nothing was up to replace it, but now thanks to Haveno and Haveno-reto, you can once again buy/sell Monero with cash-by-mail. (Think Bisq but for Monero instead of Bitcoin)
And much like Bisq and unlike LocalMonero, Haveno is not centralized and it permissionless peer-to-peer, which means that it can't be deplatformed by threats like what probably happened to LocalMonero. There's no reason for it to go away.

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Has anyone seen the chainalysis deanonymization thing?
Yes, and it's a nothingburger.
If you do crimes make sure to run your own node instead of connecting to a well known one because some of them are obviously run by enemy entities (state agencies or chain analysis groups) and can be used by them as more data points for their probabilistic analysis, as well as simply identifying you if you make the double mistake of connecting with your public IP which the state can easily ask your ISP to link to your name and address.

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The chain analysis leaked video is damaging to their company and their reputation and that's why they're DMCAing people posting it, including on twitter.

The Monero people are happy because it's another proof that Monero's privacy works perfectly well, as well as a reminder to practice good OpSec, as in, run your own node and use a proxy/Tor.

The anti-Monero people are happy because they can write and claim that Monero is broken and people can be identified (if they connect to malicious nodes with their public IP).
 
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I'm always amazed when people use BTC for outright illegal shit that could get them arrested for actual crimes. Seriously, you choose a non-repudiable currency where you have the keys to do stuff that gets you locked up for life and they throw away the keys (after taking your money)?

Okey dokey Dread Pirate. . .Ross Ulbricht.
Late reply, but these are the same types of people that think Telegram is secure.
 
Fellow Monero extremists, the supreme leader of this website lost confidence in XMR.

Since it changes over the years, a lot of people outside crypto circles can't follow what is the latest and best way to get Monero, so let's try to establish an up to date way to obtain it:
View attachment 6211437

Let me know if you have anything to add, or if something is erroneous. I personally just use Kraken and mining, so I don't have a lot of personal experience with other services.
-Swapping via Tradeogre or Cake wallet is the easiest.
-Selling things on moneromarket.io is second.
-Mining is a distant 3rd as the electricity costs are just too damn high for me. I can count the number of XMR I've mined on one hand in the past 5 years.
 
Can't i just buy it with a debit card and transfer it to another wallet if it is not traceable ?
 
Can't i just buy it with a debit card and transfer it to another wallet if it is not traceable ?
Don't even need to transfer to another wallet. Once you own XMR it's secure. Just use a stealth address when withdrawing from wherever you bought it from and never use that stealth address again.
The exchange will know: that you bought monero, how much monero you bought, and when you sent it to your wallet. To reduce the risk of timing attacks, wait a while before using the XMR you bought and don't use the full amount, buy more than you need. Someone buying .3467 XMR then one hour later a drug marketplace receives .3466 XMR is suspicious.
 
Is anyone here using Quad9 as their DNS server? I was just jacking into the darkweb, as one does, and my local Monero node just wouldn't sync or get any blocks, because it can't pull the DNSSEC records for *.moneropulse.org.
Turns out that my DNS is apparently the problem and if I point my Monero daemon to another DNS server (using the DNS_PUBLIC environment variable) it works fine. Has anyone else come across this? I couldn't find anything on the internet about it - in fact, all I found was people recommending Quad9 for use with Monero.
 
I don't know much about wallets, is it just a file on your computer? If so, what's stopping you from just encrypting the file when you're not using it or would messing with the file totally fucking fuck it?
 
I don't know much about wallets, is it just a file on your computer? If so, what's stopping you from just encrypting the file when you're not using it or would messing with the file totally fucking fuck it?
Exactly right, the only special thing you have to use your wallet is the key. The keys are just really big numbers in a file. Numbers can be encrypted.
It might be a smart thing to do, just don't forget the encryption password.
 
I don't know much about wallets, is it just a file on your computer? If so, what's stopping you from just encrypting the file when you're not using it or would messing with the file totally fucking fuck it?
It can even be written on a piece of paper and only ever entered into an airgapped computer so you can generate transactions completely offline and only do the sending online from a machine that doesn't even have the wallet on it. This is called a cold wallet.
 
I don't know much about wallets, is it just a file on your computer? If so, what's stopping you from just encrypting the file when you're not using it or would messing with the file totally fucking fuck it?
Kinda. A wallet is set of addresses (key pairs) which are stored in a file on your computer. Any good wallet software will prompt you for a password when you create the wallet and it uses that password and a PBKDF to encrypt the wallet at-rest on your computer. You actually don’t need to further encrypt it, provided you chose a strong password. Upon creation the wallet software will also randomly select a 24 word seed, this seed is then used with a hierarchical deterministic key generation algorithm to generate all the wallet addresses on demand. As AnOminous said you merely need to back up that 24 word seed to be able to recover your entire wallet, but that also means that if someone finds those 24 words they will be able to steal your entire balance. So store them securely, usually offline, to prevent anyone from stealing them. Once you have the 24 word seed stored securely you can actually completely delete the wallet and you will be able to restore it should you need to. Usually people only do this for cold wallets since wallet restoration can take a while. And make sure you do a test recovery before deleting the wallet just in case.
 
Hello Kiwi Farms Monero community,

Following continued harassment of Null/Josh on his streams by me and a few other Monero schizos, he finally agreed to setup Monero Superchats for his streams and not only the Rumble superchats that could be cut off by the financial institutions at any moment.



He also asked me to give him a short rundown on the current ways people can buy Monero, but to do it in the most painless and frictionless way possible.
I thought about it and decided to update the flowchart that someone else posted in this thread and that I also saw on /biz/.

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This is the simplest one I could make while still explaining things that need to be understood to get Monero.
What do you think about it, and do you have suggestions? I will also probably spread the chart once I'm satisfied with it and reuse it to harass other streamers into accepting Monero Superchats as well.
 
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