UK Young white men do have problems, but they need to man up - Yes, masculinity is in crisis, but the truth is that masculinity has always been in crisis

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Last weekend I was on a panel at the Oxford Literary Festival (sponsored by The Telegraph, if you please) and the topic was the Southport riots. In considering the subject, the excellent Tony Sewell, aka the Lord Sewell of Sanderstead, aired the view that one big cause of social unrest in Britain is that white working class boys are left behind. They’re bottom of the barrel, whether in school, higher education prospects, health, happiness, or projected income. Sewell, the chair of the 2021 Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities report, knows the stats well. His report found that “systemic racism” is not what lies behind disparities in outcome in Britain: it’s class, and poor white youth, mostly boys, do by far the worst.

This wasn’t the first time the topic of struggling working class white boys hit the headlines. There has long been a panic about the effect that feminism, and more recently MeToo, and the discourse of “toxic” masculinity have had on their psyches, leaving them no choice but to turn to that barbarian Andrew Tate in droves.

The topic has once more caught fire since Netflix’s Adolescence came out, the miniseries about an English teenage (white, working class) boy accused of the murder of a female classmate.

So revered is Adolescence as a – perhaps the – document for our times that Keir Starmer has on multiple occasions intoned reference to it in Parliament, mistakenly and hilariously calling it a documentary. It has provoked anti-woke fury among those who believe that a white boy is the fall guy in a story of violence by another ethnic group; it is always safe, they point out, to blame a white cisgendered heterosexual male.

And it has provoked that whiny mixture of faux indignation and performative sentimentalism among those who feel, as their sons turn to Tate (or know boys who do), that they must hold their nose and take seriously the idea that perhaps this squashed, left-out, derided demographic – once the backbone of the Empire – has been given a raw deal since in the decades since wokeness began its institutional creep.

Despite its zeitgeistiness, I have refused to watch Adolescence. I may be among the last few, at least in the chattering classes, who have not tuned in.

There are several reasons for my refusal. One is that the miniseries is obviously far too depressing. When I turn on a streaming platform these days, I want something jollier, something more along the lines of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City or The White Lotus.

The second is that, while I recognise that this group is suffering, I simply don’t feel inclined to indulge in either the huge pity party, or the jamboree of toxic-masculinity-awareness-raising, that Adolescence has inspired.

Yes, masculinity is in crisis, but the truth is that masculinity has always been in crisis – ask any social historian. And as with all moments of media-friendly crises of masculinity, we find ourselves talking about men like they are helpless little flowers. It is odd.

Working-class white boys are found to be treated badly, and therefore to do badly and act badly. One of the big issues cited is that they don’t know their worth or purpose anymore in a society constantly calling them “toxic”.

Very sad, but it is possible to get over such slights and thrive anyway. Women faced derision for almost all of history for simply being women – they were seen as neurotic, nervous, intellectually inferior, limited to backbreaking domestic labour and breeding. Any who tried to go beyond this were stymied, ridiculed and often simply barred.

Of course there was no educational encouragement or even guaranteed access, unlike that enjoyed by every single child in Britain today. And it was completely acceptable for husbands to beat or rape wives seen as intransigent, or just irritatingly alive. And still women by and large obeyed the law and tried to get on.

Some sniping about “toxic masculinity” is hardly a life sentence. And if boys are small men, and men are meant to be tough (which is why so many are frustrated now, we are told, in this “feminised” society) can’t they hold strong even in the face of adversity?

The idea that if we don’t give them all a big cultural and social hug they’ll commit violence and become arsonists and misogynists isn’t good enough. Why can’t we expect them to be decent, hardworking people … even in tough circumstances? It might be good for them, even though we’d immediately be told we are crushing them with “unrealistic expectations”.

Yes, young white men need help and encouragement and resources and schemes and mentorships and to not be told they are worthless. But they are not entirely victims either. They do have a bit of agency; they do have their own will.

I don’t wish the draft on anybody’s son
but it does occur to one that in days gone by, the majority of these rootless boys without obvious or easy prospects, held back by socioeconomic class (in far more rigid, brutal times) would have donned a uniform and gone off to war. Many would have died, which is a tragedy that is every parent’s worst nightmare.

For many, though, it was the making of them: they were scalded into men, they tasted valour, heroism and – for the more thuggish – the satisfaction of the appetite for brute force and combat, sanctioned by the state.

Let Britain be saved from a war like those that our 20th-century forefathers and mothers experienced. May conscription never be necessary again. But let us find some way to get our ne’er-do-wells, stragglers and miserable young men into something bigger than themselves, to stop them gravitating to all that is lower, nastier and meaner.
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Zoe Strimpel is a journalist, historian and author who writes a weekly column for The Sunday Telegraph. She covers gender, dating, identity, and topical events. You can find her on Twitter @realzoestrimpel.
 
Would the men who died for their country in WW2 have done it again knowing what hell their country was heading into? Genuine question, if you knew that this was what your sacrifice was leading to, a country taken over by rape apes and being told that as a white man that they know it’s tough but suck it up.

The people of Britain voted for their own extermination when they voted for the labor party and socialism in 1945. The labor party passed the Nationality Act in 1948 specifically to start importing black people into Britain. Then they started using the false idea of a "labor shortage" to import all sorts of rape apes into the country who not surprisingly didn't end up working once they got there. And after that, it was just decade after decade of the same policy.

The other part to it was Churchill's decision after taking power in 1940 to give the labor party and its leaders control over major ministries. He also eventually made the labor party leader deputy prime minister. They were largely in control of domestic affairs in Britain during the war even before they won power. Churchill neither understood the consequences of doing that nor did he care. Because PUNCH NAZIS.

Fifty-seven years ago Enoch Powell articulated the problem and what was happening. And the next day after saying it, he was kicked out of the conservative party. Because PUNCH NAZIS.
 
Would the men who died for their country in WW2 have done it again knowing what hell their country was heading into? Genuine question, if you knew that this was what your sacrifice was leading to, a country taken over by rape apes and being told that as a white man that they know it’s tough but suck it up.
As i understand it, the sentiment among German WW2 veterans is "we should have fought harder."

The sentiment among British veterans is "we shouldn't have fought at all."
 
The sentiment among British veterans is "we shouldn't have fought at all."

Its worth remembering that rationing in Britain (including food) lasted until 1954. The population was left hungry and in misery after the war because every bit of money the country had was going to build socialism.
 
British feminists are some of the most batshit insane people on earth.

She's an Ashkenazi Jew. She's not British and I wouldn't even consider her an honorary Brit. She's part of the SE european and Levantine sub-genetic clusters. Deport her to Greece, Italy or Israel.

NW europe will never be her genetic homeland, and she's hostile to the native men. If she has a Goy native British husband then she's just confused and batshit insane. Englishman + Ashkenazi = North Italian genetically.

They hate white Christians and create the rapefugee problem.
Christianity is a globohomo religion. It was originally meant for West Eurasians only but it spiraled out of control with converting everyone under the sun. Islam is also a globalist religion now. Both should be destroyed, and Judaism should be politically neutered even more.

Christianity needs to be destroyed, it came out of West Asia not even Europe let alone NW europe. Let it fking die.


It's almost like it all needs to be undone because this experiment has failed spectacularly.

Agreed. We scientifically figured out race anyways. Europeans, West Asians, some North Africans and some central Asians are all the same sub-species, referred to as West Eurasians. Most sources of their ancient ancestry is from the West Eurasian taxa.

It's better to break it down then into Pan-Ethnic groups. You can make a Pan-ethnic group for NW, Northern, NE europeans because WSH/proto Aryan ancestry peaks there. You make a pan-ethnic group for South Europeans as Early European Farmer/neolithic anatolian farmer ancestry peaks there.

We can just do pan-ethnic groups based on genetic clusters and called it a day. Hardcore ethno/genetic cluster nationalism for the old world. And sub-species nationalism for the new world/Americas.

The reason why I prefer genetic cluster nationalism over ethno-nationalism, is that someone who is 1/2 Polish and 1/2 English is part of the ethnic german genetic cluster. Sans bodies of water, Germany is between England and Poland... So that person's ancestral homelands would be England and Poland, but genetic homeland would be some region in Germany.

1/2 Christian background Lebanese and 1/2 English = Central Italian of sorts. 1/2 English and 1/2 Ashkenazim Jew = North Italian of sorts. 2/3 Scottish 1/3 Estonian = Scandinavian of sorts. Plenty of other combinations.
 
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No moid up you pick me, they need to commit to females and admit they are the inferior sex.
 
Yes, young white men need help and encouragement and resources and schemes and mentorships and to not be told they are worthless. But they are not entirely victims either. They do have a bit of agency; they do have their own will.
So do Black folks. Where's that meme in question of how White people rage? Somebody may read this and snap between "whoa there buddy" and becoming a Nazi.
 
Last weekend I was on a panel at the Oxford Literary Festival (sponsored by The Telegraph, if you please) and the topic was the Southport riots. In considering the subject, the excellent Tony Sewell, aka the Lord Sewell of Sanderstead, aired the view that one big cause of social unrest in Britain is that white working class boys are left behind

Men really need to start beating the everloving shit of faggots who write like this. No joke, bring bullying back
 
Would the men who died for their country in WW2 have done it again knowing what hell their country was heading into? Genuine question, if you knew that this was what your sacrifice was leading to, a country taken over by rape apes and being told that as a white man that they know it’s tough but suck it up.
Here is the answer to your question.

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Deets for her views. 2nd wave feminism started around the 60's and yet the views she posits here could only be described as 1st wave at best. If you actually read 2nd or 3rd wave feminist texts you'd find that this article is literally entrenching everything feminism has been fighting against for the last 50 years.
 
Britain really is screwed when even Telegraph doesn't even dare call bullshit in Adolescents: it tries to deliberately conflate knife crime in britain with "Toxic Masculinity" and manosphere stuff, when in reality it's obviously just scizo minorities gangs out of their minds on drugs stabbing people.

I might start a petition in Ireland to allow White British men (and the non-batshit crazy women) seek refugee status here, as they are quite evidently hated, persecuted and unwanted in Britain.
 
British feminists are some of the most batshit insane people on earth.

They try to destroy masculinity and create the troon problem.
They hate white Christians and create the rapefugee problem.
They alienate the only group of people who even remotely treat them like humans in favor of subhumans.

I genuinely cannot think of a group whose entire modus operandi has been constant and unending contradiction after contradiction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign
Two years of literal, admitted terrorism that did absolutely nothing to convince people women could be rational voters, and in fact did the complete opposite and massively set back the suffrage movement because people started thinking crazy terrorists shouldn't be allowed to vote.
It changes depending on the month.
More like time of the month!
Its worth remembering that rationing in Britain (including food) lasted until 1954. The population was left hungry and in misery after the war because every bit of money the country had was going to build socialism.
Its funny yet sad that you can lay so many problems at the foot of one man:
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He didn't just fuck over the UK, he fucked the whole world, too. The USSR's German scientists weren't able to move past the same turbine blade issues they had in Nazi Germany as a result of the USSR's woeful understanding of the material sciences, so when a Soviet scientist had the idea to just ask the British to send some engines over, after a spit take with his tea Stalin realized there was no harm in asking. And so Clement Atlee, against the advice of his entire military, decided that keeping the USSR and their timber exports happy were more essential than national security, so he sent some of the latest engines over with a pinky-promise that they would just be used for testing and experimental purposes and not to be reverse engineered or manufactured.

Naturally, they were reverse engineered and manufactured with the help of the Soviets who had been given tours of the Rolls-Royce factories to you know, "learn how to maintain the engines", giving the USSR an unbelievable leg up into the jet age.
 
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