Canada Federal election 2021

[ViM]

Fun fact ladies and gents, PPCucks gave Trudeau a very strong minority, he can work with any of the 3 parties for individual bills. The end result of this election is exactly how it started, Liberals can choose any of the 3 parties to make and pass a bill, likewise they can block any bill with another party. The other 3 parties (BQ, NDP, and CPC) have to work together to pass anything agaisnt the LPC, which is extremely unlikely as they are all different in terms of what they want. Green is irrelevant as always.

Now lets looks at vote splitting, to the PoorPeopleParty:
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If all PPC votes go to conservatives, the Liberals will have 140 seats and the CPC will have 144, meaning we'd have a conservative minority. This would cause 2 things, a new PM, but could also be the end of the modern LPC. Trudeau is the first "good leader" they've had in a while, and without him the LPC could fall behind. With this, parties that go from majority -> minority -> opposition rarely keep their leaders, which could've hurt the LPC for the next ten years. Now not all PPC voters are ex-CPC voters, but its important to see real change was obtainable, but due to one french man being buthurt about not being a PM candidate, we now get a minimum of 18months with Trudeau in power.

If every PPC vote went Conservative and the CPC had 144 seats you wouldn't get a stable conservative government, you'd get Erin O'Cuck-To-The-Bloc and the second he stopped giving every spare dollar to Quebec he'd be thrown out on his ass. And judging by Ford and Kenney even a majority wouldn't stop him from being completely fucking worthless on lockdowns, mandates, passports...

Conservatives get shat on over and over by CPC leadership and yet they just keep on coming back for more. Who gives a shit if the PM is some bald asshole instead of Trudeau if he's promising the exact same policies and any government he could form would be dependent on braindead socialists to pass anything? I voted for Ford and he fucked us harder on lockdowns than the NDP in BC did.

Meanwhile if the PPC had won 20% in Ontario or 30% in Alberta, even if they somehow won zero seats, that would scare the shit out of Kenney and Ford to the point where all the BS would be ended with the snap of a finger. Like all Conservatives they're legendary cowards who wouldn't cross the street without checking an opinion poll and if their voters proved they were willing to go elsewhere when they fuck up then they'd have to backtrack. Instead CPC voters proved that they're willing to literally get pegged if there's a chance it replaces Trudeau with some asshole with a blue tie and the exact same platform. "Lock me down harder daddy!" say all the Ontario and Alberta CPC voters

Before the election my expectation was that shitty parties would win 99% of the vote and instead they won 95% so I'm taking it as a win. My based home riding went 10% PPC and the one next door went 15% PPC. I hope next election the PPC margin "costs" the Conservatives even more seats so they seethe even harder. It's insane that anyone could look at the absolutely pathetic state of the provincial conservatives and think that O'Toole would have done anything differently, especially when his government would be at the mercy of the Bloc or the NDP.

 

[Just_Somebody]

You would have done more simply jerking yourself off at home, at least then Elections Canada would've counted your riding a little bit faster and let poll workers go home a bit earlier. The "PPC protest vote" makes no sense since they don't have a real platform and you can't tell what you're protesting, lockdowns/vaccines or domestic policy. Your "fuck you to the current CPC" has given Bernier enough votes to reach 5%, becoming an official party, with tax exempt rules, so he can grift harder for the next few years.

Oh noes, not the workerinos. God I inconvenienced a few poll workers after the government decided to burn hundreds of millions of dollars on a pointless election. At least they're getting an extra few cents for the....4 seconds it would take to count my vote. So you know what? I hope that 5% with the PPC getting federal funds will wake the fuck out of the CPC leadership and maybe not just copy and paste the Liberal party platform with a few small edits.

The CPC deserved the dicking they got for basically Liberals in blue, except for maybe a slightly less shitty gun platform that they would have likely cucked out on anyway the moment the CBC prints out a shit article.

 

[America's Hat]

If every PPC vote went Conservative and the CPC had 144 seats you wouldn't get a stable conservative government, you'd get Erin O'Cuck-To-The-Bloc and the second he stopped giving every spare dollar to Quebec he'd be thrown out on his ass. And judging by Ford and Kenney even a majority wouldn't stop him from being completely fucking worthless on lockdowns, mandates, passports...

Conservatives get shat on over and over by CPC leadership and yet they just keep on coming back for more. Who gives a shit if the PM is some bald asshole instead of Trudeau if he's promising the exact same policies and any government he could form would be dependent on braindead socialists to pass anything? I voted for Ford and he fucked us harder on lockdowns than the NDP in BC did.

You do realize you can get a lot done with coalitions to Quebec, then switching to another party for other policies. It's not something were you have to suck Quebecs cock consistently. Your logic of if the CPC doesn't bow down, we will immediately get an election is laughable. No one likes elections in Canada, imagine trying to campaign that you stopped government because you didn't get your way, history repeats with the minority gaining the needed majority. If you think NDP or Wynne would be any better for Ontario you're a fucking moron, there's a reason Wynne lost, the LPC were terrible for Ontario and we are still recovering from their signed contracts to this day. Ontario had Toronto, the epi-center of niggers that broke quarantine rules constantly, while hosting major BLM protest. We also have a fuckton of white trash schizos that hate everyone around them and shoot up constantly, not exactly the stay at home type. It's no wonder our healthcare system fell apart and all 3 parties lowered health care standards, don't try to blame this on Ford. Even NDP fucked over nurses when they got in.

.Meanwhile if the PPC had won 20% in Ontario or 30% in Alberta, even if they somehow won zero seats, that would scare the shit out of Kenney and Ford to the point where all the BS would be ended with the snap of a finger. Like all Conservatives they're legendary cowards who wouldn't cross the street without checking an opinion poll and if their voters proved they were willing to go elsewhere when they fuck up then they'd have to backtrack. Instead CPC voters proved that they're willing to literally get pegged if there's a chance it replaces Trudeau with some asshole with a blue tie and the exact same platform. "Lock me down harder daddy!" say all the Ontario and Alberta CPC voters

Before the election my expectation was that shitty parties would win 99% of the vote and instead they won 95% so I'm taking it as a win. My based home riding went 10% PPC and the one next door went 15% PPC. I hope next election the PPC margin "costs" the Conservatives even more seats so they seethe even harder. It's insane that anyone could look at the absolutely pathetic state of the provincial conservatives and think that O'Toole would have done anything differently, especially when his government would be at the mercy of the Bloc or the NDP.

The biggest cope of the thread, "if the PPC had won 20% in Ontario or 30% in Alberta", the PPC is not that popular you fucking idiot. The PPC has NO PROPER PLATFORM, its all just a fucking meme. Their platform is a bunch of statements that will crash the Canadian economy and will never be implemented or popular. Get out of your fucking echochamber where the dream candidate "Chelsea Hillier" got 12% of the vote, losing to the CPC, NDP, and LPC. Congratulations, you beat the Green party in a rural riding with massive support from the leader and te "no lockdowns" caucus. I see you're from the Essex region and are happy to give liberals even more seats at the cost of any sense of freedom or economy left, because CPC is clearly identical to Trudeau.

"I hope next election the PPC margin "costs" the Conservatives even more seats so they seethe even harder." It's great to know that Canadian Conservative history (Reform+Progressive Conservative) is completely lost to you, that you'll give Trudeau a super majority instead of trying to make small steps to fixing issues. You're a retarded accelerationist that thinks they will force the CPC right and all redtories cease to exist, giving them a "true conservative" majority fixing all of Canada overnight.

Your party can barely break the 5% minimum while being the only party thats anti-lockdown and anti-mask, while both of those measures have 10%+ support nationally. I hope you enjoy giving half your donations to Maxine's wallet, because he's going to grift you for all you're good for.

 

[jje100010001]

If every PPC vote went Conservative and the CPC had 144 seats you wouldn't get a stable conservative government, you'd get Erin O'Cuck-To-The-Bloc and the second he stopped giving every spare dollar to Quebec he'd be thrown out on his ass. And judging by Ford and Kenney even a majority wouldn't stop him from being completely fucking worthless on lockdowns, mandates, passports...

Conservatives get shat on over and over by CPC leadership and yet they just keep on coming back for more. Who gives a shit if the PM is some bald asshole instead of Trudeau if he's promising the exact same policies and any government he could form would be dependent on braindead socialists to pass anything? I voted for Ford and he fucked us harder on lockdowns than the NDP in BC did.

The fundamental issue with the Conservatives seem to be that they're intent on chasing the 'idea' of a middle, whereas any successful political strategy aims to shift the middle to you.

Honestly as with the Republicans, it's an uphill battle, as so much of society is now leftism's sovereign territory, and obviously it cannot be resolved with one election, or with the current crop of Conservatives in much of the West.

 

[America's Hat]

Oh noes, not the workerinos. God I inconvenienced a few poll workers after the government decided to burn hundreds of millions of dollars on a pointless election. At least they're getting an extra few cents for the....4 seconds it would take to count my vote. So you know what? I hope that 5% with the PPC getting federal funds will wake the fuck out of the CPC leadership and maybe not just copy and paste the Liberal party platform with a few small edits.

I hope you enjoy supporting a party that can only lead to Liberal supermajority for years to come, since you can't learn Canadian Political history. None of this is new, its just Reform+Progressive Conservatives but in the 21st century.

The CPC deserved the dicking they got for basically Liberals in blue, except for maybe a slightly less shitty gun platform that they would have likely cucked out on anyway the moment the CBC prints out a shit article.

O'Toole Campaigned on gun classification reform back in the 2017 conservative caucus, again in 2019, and in the election platform. He was the best chance we got, but some people in the gun lobby are fucking retards that followed the CBC and PPC headlines on how "O'Toole cucked out" (funny that CBC and PPC agree on topics when it's convenient, but the CBC are complete shills the moment it's inconvenient). PPC will lie through their teeth for votes, while sharing the same platform of O'Toole on firearms. The CCFR, NFA, and CCSA all agreed that CPC are the only shot and the PPC are a waste vote, the gun lobby knew the bullshit from Bernier.

 

[Cheetahman]

Still voting PPC next time.
If you don't like it, find some better policies, instead of spending 30 hours simultaneously smuckling and seething about muh split vote.

 

[Never Scored]

Still voting PPC next time.
If you don't like it, find some better policies, instead of spending 30 hours simultaneously smuckling and seething about muh split vote.

PPC is not getting as much support next time. They were invigorated by Jenny McCarthy style anti-vax soccer moms. Like, one of the candidates in my province was a hairdresser who has previously been in the news when she ran an anti-bullying campaign when her son go picked on in school, and runs some kind of charity for breast cancer survivors. Those people don't give a shit about immigration and gun control and aren't sticking around post covid. Maybe if Covid restrictions linger into 2023 when we'll likely next be going to the polls.

 

[DamnWolves!]

How does the Liberal Party manage to have so much power when the NDP should in theory siphon off a lot of lefty progressives that are the bedrock of party activism (at least in the US)?

Justin Trudeau. Trudeau has progressive bonafides, which is an amazing feat in itself, considering he's a trust fund kid who has experienced exactly zero hardship.

He gets some flack from the hardcore socialists, but the majority of our "progressives" are decidedly of the Twitter variety. They vote based on good feelings, Facebook posts, and sound bites. Their political affiliation is based more so on how they perceive themselves and the type of person they believe they are than any real economic or social platform. The NDP are for the true policy wonks on the Left; they have no populist appeal (incidentally, their leader is also a trust fund lawyer, of the Pajeet variety).

The Liberals also have the permanent bureaucrat vote. It cannot be overstated that government employees are a massive voting bloc in Canada and they are very monolithic. Teachers, nurses, government contractors... there are all sorts of people in on the grift and the Liberal party is very good at getting tax dollars to them specifically.

If the Liberals would push for mushrooms to be legalized I'd vote for them tbh

Get a job, you fucking faggot.

 

[Never Scored]

Justin Trudeau. Trudeau has progressive bonafides, which is an amazing feat in itself, considering he's a trust fund kid who has experienced exactly zero hardship.

It's because "trust fund kid who has experienced exactly zero hardship" describes most progressives.

 

[Puff]

To any Americans - if you ever get into a debate with someone about the Electoral College, just show them our Elections and how two or three population centers can completely motherfuck the rest of the country. See what they say.

That's what the people arguing against the EC WANT.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

You do realize you can get a lot done with coalitions to Quebec, then switching to another party for other policies. It's not something were you have to suck Quebecs cock consistently. Your logic of if the CPC doesn't bow down, we will immediately get an election is laughable. No one likes elections in Canada, imagine trying to campaign that you stopped government because you didn't get your way, history repeats with the minority gaining the needed majority. If you think NDP or Wynne would be any better for Ontario you're a fucking moron, there's a reason Wynne lost, the LPC were terrible for Ontario and we are still recovering from their signed contracts to this day. Ontario had Toronto, the epi-center of niggers that broke quarantine rules constantly, while hosting major BLM protest. We also have a fuckton of white trash schizos that hate everyone around them and shoot up constantly, not exactly the stay at home type. It's no wonder our healthcare system fell apart and all 3 parties lowered health care standards, don't try to blame this on Ford. Even NDP fucked over nurses when they got in.

The biggest cope of the thread, "if the PPC had won 20% in Ontario or 30% in Alberta", the PPC is not that popular you fucking idiot. The PPC has NO PROPER PLATFORM, its all just a fucking meme. Their platform is a bunch of statements that will crash the Canadian economy and will never be implemented or popular. Get out of your fucking echochamber where the dream candidate "Chelsea Hillier" got 12% of the vote, losing to the CPC, NDP, and LPC. Congratulations, you beat the Green party in a rural riding with massive support from the leader and te "no lockdowns" caucus. I see you're from the Essex region and are happy to give liberals even more seats at the cost of any sense of freedom or economy left, because CPC is clearly identical to Trudeau.

"I hope next election the PPC margin "costs" the Conservatives even more seats so they seethe even harder." It's great to know that Canadian Conservative history (Reform+Progressive Conservative) is completely lost to you, that you'll give Trudeau a super majority instead of trying to make small steps to fixing issues. You're a retarded accelerationist that thinks they will force the CPC right and all redtories cease to exist, giving them a "true conservative" majority fixing all of Canada overnight.

Your party can barely break the 5% minimum while being the only party thats anti-lockdown and anti-mask, while both of those measures have 10%+ support nationally. I hope you enjoy giving half your donations to Maxine's wallet, because he's going to grift you for all you're good for.

I miss Dalton. Those were literally the good old days of Ontario. The province functioned so smoothly under his leadership granted we were a lot more ''white'' in terms of our major cities back then so perhaps that's part of the reason. Since Lesbo and then Fatty took charge it's been a race down to the bottom.

 

[Just_Somebody]

I hope you enjoy supporting a party that can only lead to Liberal supermajority for years to come, since you can't learn Canadian Political history. None of this is new, its just Reform+Progressive Conservatives but in the 21st century.

Again, I live in a riding that has gone Liberal for decades. My wasted vote could have been wasted on the CPC, but that would also means I was endorsing their current platform, which I absolutely do not at the moment. So if the CPC wants to rethink their strategy after this nothing election, I'd be happy to see it, but the Liberals could have easily suffered if it wasn't for O'Toole's basic cucking on any and all policies that made them different from the Liberals.

 

[Erich Honecker]

PPC is not getting as much support next time. They were invigorated by Jenny McCarthy style anti-vax soccer moms. Like, one of the candidates in my province was a hairdresser who has previously been in the news when she ran an anti-bullying campaign when her son go picked on in school, and runs some kind of charity for breast cancer survivors. Those people don't give a shit about immigration and gun control and aren't sticking around post covid. Maybe if Covid restrictions linger into 2023 when we'll likely next be going to the polls.

It's the dilemma of the protest party. If they truly believe the thing they're protesting against is awful and must be stopped, then they should celebrate regardless of by what means it's achieved. But, for the party itself to succeed and have longevity, they need the Bad Thing to go on for as long as possible and to get worse and push more voters into their camp. Much like how UKIP probably would have won a slew of seats from enraged voters post-2016 if the UK had narrowly voted to stay in the EU, but in the reality where Brexit actually happened they gradually collapsed.

 

[America's Hat]

Again, I live in a riding that has gone Liberal for decades. My wasted vote could have been wasted on the CPC, but that would also means I was endorsing their current platform, which I absolutely do not at the moment. So if the CPC wants to rethink their strategy after this nothing election, I'd be happy to see it, but the Liberals could have easily suffered if it wasn't for O'Toole's basic cucking on any and all policies that made them different from the Liberals.

The PPC only helps the LPC in the long run. O'Toole was on a great path to win, but Trudeau found that attacking the OIC removal in O'Toole's platform, he'd be able to take back the momentum. The OIC implementation from the beginning was a mess, and O'Toole's response to the media could've better clarified. But its going to be difficult to win over soccer moms in suburbs with "legal assault rifles" that media pebbled. O'Toole didn't cuck on his platform, he ran on his platform, which is the one that won the conservative leadership race. A fraction of electorates participate in these races, which if you want to change, should instead focus there, not voting PPC.

It's the dilemma of the protest party. If they truly believe the thing they're protesting against is awful and must be stopped, then they should celebrate regardless of by what means it's achieved. But, for the party itself to succeed and have longevity, they need the Bad Thing to go on for as long as possible and to get worse and push more voters into their camp. Much like how UKIP probably would have won a slew of seats from enraged voters post-2016 if the UK had narrowly voted to stay in the EU, but in the reality where Brexit actually happened they gradually collapsed.

Based on Bernier's history, he'll milk this for all its worth then chase another wedge issue. He knows he can't run the country, so he'll just take whatever he can get.

 

[Kiwisee]

Shit like this is why Canada should have term limits tbh

 

[Cynically Insane]

In past Canadian elections I worked as a Deputy Returning Officer. This election I got the call and training schedule. I left 45 minutes into training. The Covid propaganda was crazy. But the real clincher was the removal of the Poll Clerk position. The Poll Clerk serves as the DRO's assistant. They manage the voters list and the tally sheet. Most importantly, they are another set of eyes at the polling station to discourage any shenanigans. I did not want to manage the entire station on my own. It is literally a security risk.

I had read the elections act in the past and knew that it stated that a DRO and a Poll Clerk must be assigned to each station. So I looked it up. In 2019, the language about specific staffing was repealed and replaced with some BS about who the Returning Officer could hire and when. All of the language detailing the specific officer positions and their respective duties is gone.

I couldn't resist having a peek at this new shit show so I volunteered to scrutineer for the PPC. What I saw raises some big concerns. Aside from serious understaffing and a lack of knowledgeable people to run the polls, the security risk of single manned stations and the reduced number of stations, I found a far more frightening prospect. I believe they are readying us to move to electronic voting. If we let that happen we will never have a fair election again.

Two ballot boxes at my polling place couldn't be counted because the DRO was unable to balance their ballot count. It was bound to happen with all the old DROs quitting and the newbies expected to manage both the ballots and the voters list. Those boxes are sent to the the Returning Office and I honestly have no idea what happens to them there.
I am doomer now. I believe that Canada is lost forever, never to return to the land of the free. Too many Canadians are on the authoritarian train for it to be stopped.

PS. I am in one of the ridings where the PCs lost by fewer votes than PPC received. I have no regrets voting PPC though because the Tool is liberal lite. If I wanted a liberal I would have voted for the genuine article, not a copy cat. O'Tool lost this election all on his own and I hope he is promptly ousted.

 

[E. Knee as Weapon - Cont.]

I hope you enjoy supporting a party that can only lead to Liberal supermajority for years to come, since you can't learn Canadian Political history. None of this is new, its just Reform+Progressive Conservatives but in the 21st century.

O'Toole Campaigned on gun classification reform back in the 2017 conservative caucus, again in 2019, and in the election platform. He was the best chance we got, but some people in the gun lobby are fucking retards that followed the CBC and PPC headlines on how "O'Toole cucked out" (funny that CBC and PPC agree on topics when it's convenient, but the CBC are complete shills the moment it's inconvenient). PPC will lie through their teeth for votes, while sharing the same platform of O'Toole on firearms. The CCFR, NFA, and CCSA all agreed that CPC are the only shot and the PPC are a waste vote, the gun lobby knew the bullshit from Bernier.

Counterpoint: Fuck the CPC. Liberals in blue suits with a hard-on for pipelines, give me a fucking break.

It's not enough for the CPC to win. They need to enact the policies I care about. They aren't even pretending to want to do that anymore. I'd rather burn a vote on an outsider party in the hope that their growing popularity spooks the CPC into becoming worthwhile.

 

[Mooger Meng]

I agree. I didn't mean for my post to come across as if I'm confused as to why the average Canadian is more invested in what's happening to the south of us politically. As was brought up earlier by someone, a lot of Canadian political/culturally identity is posturing as "our progressive-ing" each other (to show how we're so much better than the US.) As you pointed out, too, much of our culture comes from the US, including much of the worst aspects of it. For anyone who isn't Canadian, by no means should you think that the Kardashians aren't a-list here, that we don't have our share of wiggers and unhinged social justice types who take their cues from what you see in the average major American city (including a lot of BLM stuff last year,) and don't get the impression that the youth is just listening to old Rush albums or something.

So, what you're saying is that since Canada is just a smaller America, we have a sovereign duty to annex it.

 

[Kiwisee]

In past Canadian elections I worked as a Deputy Returning Officer. This election I got the call and training schedule. I left 45 minutes into training. The Covid propaganda was crazy. But the real clincher was the removal of the Poll Clerk position. The Poll Clerk serves as the DRO's assistant. They manage the voters list and the tally sheet. Most importantly, they are another set of eyes at the polling station to discourage any shenanigans. I did not want to manage the entire station on my own. It is literally a security risk.

I had read the elections act in the past and knew that it stated that a DRO and a Poll Clerk must be assigned to each station. So I looked it up. In 2019, the language about specific staffing was repealed and replaced with some BS about who the Returning Officer could hire and when. All of the language detailing the specific officer positions and their respective duties is gone.

I couldn't resist having a peek at this new shit show so I volunteered to scrutineer for the PPC. What I saw raises some big concerns. Aside from serious understaffing and a lack of knowledgeable people to run the polls, the security risk of single manned stations and the reduced number of stations, I found a far more frightening prospect. I believe they are readying us to move to electronic voting. If we let that happen we will never have a fair election again.

Two ballot boxes at my polling place couldn't be counted because the DRO was unable to balance their ballot count. It was bound to happen with all the old DROs quitting and the newbies expected to manage both the ballots and the voters list. Those boxes are sent to the the Returning Office and I honestly have no idea what happens to them there.
I am doomer now. I believe that Canada is lost forever, never to return to the land of the free. Too many Canadians are on the authoritarian train for it to be stopped.

PS. I am in one of the ridings where the PCs lost by fewer votes than PPC received. I have no regrets voting PPC though because the Tool is liberal lite. If I wanted a liberal I would have voted for the genuine article, not a copy cat. O'Tool lost this election all on his own and I hope he is promptly ousted.

God that’s a hell of a black pill.

I already knew Canada was lost, but damn… now I know why our suicide rate is pretty high.

 

[Scale Smerch]

In past Canadian elections I worked as a Deputy Returning Officer. This election I got the call and training schedule. I left 45 minutes into training. The Covid propaganda was crazy. But the real clincher was the removal of the Poll Clerk position. The Poll Clerk serves as the DRO's assistant. They manage the voters list and the tally sheet. Most importantly, they are another set of eyes at the polling station to discourage any shenanigans. I did not want to manage the entire station on my own. It is literally a security risk.

I had read the elections act in the past and knew that it stated that a DRO and a Poll Clerk must be assigned to each station. So I looked it up. In 2019, the language about specific staffing was repealed and replaced with some BS about who the Returning Officer could hire and when. All of the language detailing the specific officer positions and their respective duties is gone.

I couldn't resist having a peek at this new shit show so I volunteered to scrutineer for the PPC. What I saw raises some big concerns. Aside from serious understaffing and a lack of knowledgeable people to run the polls, the security risk of single manned stations and the reduced number of stations, I found a far more frightening prospect. I believe they are readying us to move to electronic voting. If we let that happen we will never have a fair election again.

Two ballot boxes at my polling place couldn't be counted because the DRO was unable to balance their ballot count. It was bound to happen with all the old DROs quitting and the newbies expected to manage both the ballots and the voters list. Those boxes are sent to the the Returning Office and I honestly have no idea what happens to them there.
I am doomer now. I believe that Canada is lost forever, never to return to the land of the free. Too many Canadians are on the authoritarian train for it to be stopped.

PS. I am in one of the ridings where the PCs lost by fewer votes than PPC received. I have no regrets voting PPC though because the Tool is liberal lite. If I wanted a liberal I would have voted for the genuine article, not a copy cat. O'Tool lost this election all on his own and I hope he is promptly ousted.

I wouldn't go full doomer yet IMO, a lot of this nonsense is due to the pandemic bullshit festering but - rate me rainbows - I don't see similar circumstances happening in ~18 months once we're back at this again. Even this pozzed population has a limit and you're already seeing cracks; just wait for the mass realization two shots won't be enough.

Plus voting reform is effectively dead and if that couldn't be forced through with a majority it's going to be hard doing the same with a minority for electronic voting. Libs won't want to rock that boat and have little reason given how Montreal and Toronto vote.