Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

[ShortBusDriver]

Yeah this is sending an extremely dangerous precedent people aren't going to consider if the rest of the people chasing them on a threat they're just going to keep firing until they were out of ammunition all the people are dead .
And this is why something Augusto Pinochet Rings true liberal democracies cannot properly deal with communist

This is exactly what these goofs don't understand.

BLM is predicated on breaking the law freely while expecting average uninvolved citizens to follow the law.

If you can't lawfully defend your neighborhood from a literal terrorist organizations then there's absolutely nothing stopping a home owner from dressing in all black, going down to the woodline of their neighborhood and letting off anything from a few well placed shots to a 60 round drum at "peaceful protestors' then disappearing into the night.

The reality is unless you tell someone, or you wore something people recognized there's very little chance of getting caught. Catch your brass as it ejects, go swap out your barrel / upper, and what evidence do the police have?

Nothing

This is doubly true if your AR15 is chambered in .223 and you carry out this mindcraft attack with a .300 BLK upper that suddenly disappears.

Again i'm not advocating violence, but this is the reality when people wake up to the law not being on their side and literally exactly what happens in other countries that fell to mob rule.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

one more day till Kenosha burns by BLM/Antifa.

It's cold and wet in Kenosha now, nobody is rioting in that weather. Here's the weekend forecast for Kenosha

 

[Getting tard comed]

The fuck happened?

Dooming is almost as bad as when Kyle took the stand.

The jury instructions include provisions for provocation on Kyle's behalf which would mean his claim to self defense is null and void. It is admitted due to the defense being being terrible and not fighting agaisnt it EVEN THOUGH THE JUDGE INDICATED HEAVILY HE BELIEVED THAT THE EVIDENCE USED TO SHOW PROVOCATION WAS TERRIBLE.

Holy shit. If Kyle gets convicted I sincerely hope Kyle sues for malpractice.

 

[Standardized Profile]

People whose expertise of the law and courtroom proceedings is entirely based on watching Better Call Saul are running their mouths about things the defense should or shouldn't have done and talking the umpteenth time about how Kyle is now crow-chow.

There's almost no law or courtroom proceedings in Better Call Saul. We see him make a closing argument in the first episode, then later on there's a montage, then he gets someone else out on bail and that person skips. It's a lawyer drama but not a legal drama, being mostly about him manipulating people outside the legal system to get his desired results.

 

[O.H. Krill]

I don't think the defense fought that hard on the provocation instruction because the prosecution is going to look like idiots for arguing it.

If that video is their "best" evidence, they have virtually nothing. Who in their right mind looks at that video - enhanced, slowed down or not - and thinks that it contradicts the testimony from multiple witnesses (including those the prosecution put on the stand)? It's ridiculous, just like everything else about this case.

 

[Reverend]

It's cold and wet in Kenosha now, nobody is rioting in that weather. Here's the weekend forecast for Kenosha View attachment 2711013

For once the shit northern tundra weather succeeds where it should otherwise cause misery and back breaking snow shoeveling.

Perfect.

 

[Meat Target]

Holy shit. If Kyle gets convicted I sincerely hope Kyle sues for malpractice.

Isn't inadequate counsel grounds for an appeal?

 

[Canoodler]

The suspense is killing me.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Which cuts both ways.
Because there just as likely could be a soyjack who thinks Kyle is guilty based on what CNN told him to think as there could be a suburban/rural mom who knows Kyle greased a violent chomo.

AFAIK the jury is majority/completely female. If any of them knows Rosenbaum was a child molester, it will not go well for the prosecution, and the prosecution is putting all their chips on Rosenbaum getting ventilated not being self-defense. The defense likely knows that is the case already.

Either way, I'm looking forward to the closing statements. That'll be another fun shitshow to watch.

 

[Evilronald]

You got no argument from me here. But we're working with very limited data: all we have are streams with notoriously shitty audio.

The lawyers can see the jury and their reactions. They've got a big data point we don't have. So if they're that confident in their success they're either completely exceptional (I find that unlikely), or Binger & Krauss shat the bed with the jury even harder than it seems.


Easy there. I don't want to hand people copium, but these are Karens from a County with fewer than 200k inhabitants. They are a lot more likely to be at least passably familiar with guns than your average Starbucks Karen from Madison or Milwaukee, particularly if they lean older than 30.

That’s a fair point, and Kenosha county isn’t completely urban. It’s about 50 percent urban and 50 percent rural so very likely many of the people are more sympathetic to rittenhouse. One of the jurors was clearly biased in favor of Kyle, so very likely there are more so it’s unlikely he gets a conviction.

 

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[LUNEKO]

I don't see how you get twelve people to agree that this was murder. At worst this is a hung jury.

Speaking of a hung jury, how easy is for the state to just fill the jury with people they know will just vote guilty no matter what?

 

[WonderWino]

I haven't passed the bar nor stayed in a certain motel chain, but can the judge set the jury aside in that case and acquit on his own?

In theory perhaps but in practice, he'd have to be insane to even consider it. Think of how that would look. The optics alone would sink him. The left would go full rabid and start screaming for his head as some kind of trump supporting nazi letting off a trump supporting murderer despite the fact the jury said he was guilty. At best he'd be hounded to no end, might even get shit started with the state bar and all kinds of inquiries and investigations because of it. To say nothing of the very real chance of triggering a riot. The left could point to the outcome and say kyle is a murderer according to the jury and only got off due to a corrupt trump supporter judge that is racist against asians and harassed the prosecutor during the trial

Nothing good would come out of the judge doing that for anyone involved

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Is that a pencil sharpener?

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What, were people complaining about the painting and the seal being the only two options for break cam? They wanted a change of scenery so bad we're looking at this now?

Tbh, that looks like an efficient sharpener, and I had the irresistible urge to sharpen every pencil in the house. Which I did, and it was satisfying. Whoever does the AV in that courtroom strikes me as a cheeky autist who's found a delightful way to shitpost.

 

[Getting tard comed]

Also.. we are very close to codifying in law that people have a right to assault you and destroy your property and you cannot defend yourself or your property.

That case where a woman was raped for 7-12 minutes and nobody did anything but watch it be recorded.. prepare to see more of that. This is reinforcing the idea of people ignoring the well being of their fellow men.

 

[Some JERK]

Speaking of a hung jury, how easy is for the state to just fill the jury with people they know will just vote guilty no matter what?

I don't know, but if they actually have the ability to do that then nothing can save anyone. The legal system is completely broken and all trials are show-trials if the state wants them to be so.

 

[simpleanon]

There are people in this world who think merely holding the gun is provocation. I don't trust these retards.

I agree that such people exist, but come to think of it, isn't there a good deal of overlap there with the sorts of people who consider incorrect language to be violence as well? So obviously Kyle was literally being assaulted well before he had to pull the trigger.

Then again, these are retards we're talking about, so logical consistency doesn't matter anyways.

I just hope if he does get dunked on, this thread doesn't go the way the 2020 election thread did with "Here's why Kyle going to prison isn't actually a bad thing/Hehe, it's a good thing I totally didn't support Kyle, or else I'd be real embarrassed right now."

If Kyle gets convicted, the takeaway some people may get is this:

Should you decide to defend your community from joggers, open confrontation will not go your way, even if you are in the right and did everything in your power to avoid needing to take a life. Your best legal recourse is to do everything in your power to not get caught by the authorities in the first place.

I've read some glowposting regarding shooting into large crowds from a distance and whatnot, and how hard someone who did so would be to catch. I would begin to expect at least one incident of that nature should Kyle be convicted, given sufficient rioting. In other words, I'd expect any sort of right-wing response to rioting to become more clandestine rather than attempt to rely on any institution, since it's been proven that they can't.

Some may consider that to be a silver lining.

 

[Meat Target]

Speaking of a hung jury, how easy is for the state to just fill the jury with people they know will just vote guilty no matter what?

Bingo and Fatso would be much more smug if that were the case.

 

[RudeRoasts]

The defense allowed Binger to slimily and without factual basis add 'provocation' to the jury instructions so now Binger can spend three hours arguing that because she went to the wrong bar wearing that skirt she gets what she deserves, and give any hard core jury member an excuse to vote guilty.

At which point the Defense better be prepared to point out that Gage Gross also brought a firearm and pointed it down at Rittenhouse's face, so if the prosecution claims that Kyle "deserved to be attacked", that the charges as they pertains to Gross fly out the window.

That if they argue that simply having a gun provokes violence, they argue by proxy that Rittenhouse's persistent possession of a med-kit and fire extinguisher is an undeniable signal that he's trying to provide medical (alongside "medical medical medical") and put out fires. Nevermind the fact that he actually did those things, and only wound up shooting people who attacked him, one of which threatened to kill him earlier that night. Nevermind the notion that simply having a gun provokes violence is a naked pile of nonsensical ponyshit.

 

[SmugAutist]

I don't think the defense fought that hard on the provocation instruction because the prosecution is going to look like idiots for arguing it.

If that video is their "best" evidence, they have virtually nothing. Who in their right mind looks at that video - enhanced, slowed down or not - and thinks that it contradicts the testimony from multiple witnesses (including those the prosecution put on the stand)? It's ridiculous, just like everything else about this case.

I agree that it might be what the defense was thinking. The issue is that this was a high risk and no reward situation. They put their client at the mercy of the jury in the second most important trail of the year where the sitting President and the media have declared that the defendant is a guilty Nazi.