I totally disagree that TLC and Jeanette would capitalize a suicide attempt. The pushback from the "but you said he'd stay alive and happy if he had the SRS!" Crowd would be too harsh.
I have been reading this excellent conversation and just wanted to add a few random things.
First, Boston is tiny. It is NOT huge. Someone said 8 million people? No. 800,000 in Boston. 4 million in the entire eastern half of Massachusetts. Cambridge is also tiny. Jazz is not going to be able to get lost in a crowd.
Second, if Jazz had attempted suicide, I think THAT would be covered up. But a breakdown? THAT is a plot twist. If there hadn't been something as serious as a suicide attempt, Jeanette would not be backing down on stuff like suspending the diet, or the hideous clothes Jazz wants to bring to Harvard. A breakdown? She's be all over it with "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" vs, "I'm worried.". Also, Harvard undoubtedly thinks of breakdowns as just another day at the beach. No big deal. But suicide attempts. Lawyers, lawsuits. Not trivial. Also, Harvard is by no means harder than any other good school. They have anywhere between 10 and 30% of their classes being comprised of legacies. Think Dubya. They are always going to bring down the curve.
Sander is a lazy ass. He wants to live his childhood forever. Surprised he hasn't said, "I know! Let's put on a show!". Though of course, they are a show.
Ari went to the U of Arkansas to study transgender psychology? WTF? Arkansas? I thought she was the one F1 to avoid the gender crap, but apparently not. Arkansas looks good on their website, but seriously? Why isn't ARI going to Harvard?
I find this incredibly rotten of Sanders because Peppermint is sober and even though she's said it doesn't bother her it's still disrespectful.
Also I've been rewatching from the beginning and Jazz already had a binge eating problem (which was specifically mentioned in the show) in season 1. It seems like it wasn't until she was post-surgery that she ballooned up.
(Also Grandma Jackie's eye wasn't crossed until a few years ago. What's up with that?)
No, I've been watching since the beginning. Grandma has always been so cross-eyed, it's stunning she can see anything at all
we also don't remember jazz having a "severe" mental illness until it became convenient to blame the post-surgery turmoil on it, either. Jazz has to adjust his memory of his life to fit whatever fucked up narrative his mother wants to push on the public, it is much like when parents make their kids lie to the other parent post-divorce: constantly trying to please one person and sell a lie to another. it becomes harder to figure out what was actually happening at any point in time when kids are made to lie that much.
speaking of which: lying to yourself is the basic skill that every fat sack of shit on this board excels in. Every single one. That's how they can say "its not that much" or "I didn't eat breakfast today so I can eat more now" or whatever bullshit excuse they put forth at the moment. its how each one of them breaks diets and engages in other morally repugnant behavior. Jeannette did train him in how to lie.
The lying is the answer to HOW they got this way. As for why: I guarantee he has never, ever felt loved by family the way he feels loved by food. That's why its like crack to him, he has a gaping hole in his life where his mom's love should have been and he is chucking donuts into it instead. Wouldn't be the first or last time, and its not really that complicated. The puberty blockers, possible brain damage, etc might make it worse or harder to overcome, but jazz's background is just as tragic as many of the other fatties on this board, and on episodes of MSHPL. Intervention is full of sad life stories, too. People who can't overcome this kind of shit abuse their bodies until they die. What irritates me is when exulansic pretends that jazz can't do ANYTHING about it, and that his family should be accepting of his poor choices. His family sucks for many reasons, but when you give into someone like jazz because they are sad you end up with a lifebyjen situation. Jazz is huge but can still walk, things could possibly get a lot worse. The family should also not drive themselves insane trying to control something they can't, such as another person's eating decisions. Everyone in this show is retarded when it comes to asserting boundaries.
I predict that eventually it will become justified. I mostly agree with her when I watch her jazz reactions and I hope she doesn't go completely lolcow but I more or less expect it at this point. : /
Jazz is still able to walk? She's 234 pounds. That is the GOAL weight for most people on MSHPL
I completely forgot who Skylar was. That's the one Jazz has been always jealous of, even saying so when Skylar said he was having the surgery before Jazz did. Once Skylar returned from the surgery, Jazz looked even more jealous:
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After Jazz sees Skylar again, it's funny how the first thing he does is taking them to eat and starts saying how he's always hungry and feels he's never full.
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Same episode when we can see how deformed Jazz is compared to his friend:
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I dunno if Skylar is really a guy or not, btw. I don't even know what pronouns use here because "she" claims to be trans, but "she" doesn't look like one. On one side, the insta pics show hips when most men don't have them, but then, here is him/her towering both Jeanette and his own mother?
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Both episodes when he (fuck it, let's say he) is with Jazz are very creepy. Both talk about being so excited for the surgery and how they want a vagina. The moms talk about how this poor kid had an allergic reaction to antibiotics so he was in pain for two weeks and he casually tells Jazz the same like it's some quirky shit girls share all the time.
Jeanette and Jazz are 5'3". Not exactly hard to tower over these people.
I did an attempt of a search, but didn't see this posted.
Anyways, I saw this on Tiktok, and thought of Sander.
Who do you think has the larger penis/lady dick?
The Jewish man, or the Black man?
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A magma? What is he saying?
Jeanette is a JAP (Jewish-American princess) without a lot of money.
They have money. Greg is an estate planning lawyer.