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THAT was it, thank you. So total bullshit. I think he believed all his trolls were gay at the time, so he came up with that to try and fit in. Ah, Classic Chris. So funny, so :stupid:
What they said. It was pretty great, he said he "came, then threw up." So it confirmed that he was Very Straight and Not Gay.
 
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If chris became homeless I would like to see him join onlyusemeblae in the Rv doing shots for donations. Blade can help be a father figure for Chris
If Chris ever does go homeless on the street, how much of a stereotypical tinfoilhat homeless fuck would he become? Who know, doing shit like spending time yelling on the sidewalk about the dimensional merge at random people and living in a little hand-made lego house with all his deranged sonichu drawings scattered around it? He already became batshit crazy in jail so how would he do now?
 
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He already became batshit crazy in jail so how would he do now?
Look at the Ashanti Billie case, a judge in 2019 didn't want to order forcible medication even though the suspect was charged with murder. Later in that case, after voluntarily (?) medicating of the client it was then determined that he couldn't be restored to competency in 2020. Meaning the dude was bat shit crazy even with meds on board and possibly a danger to society, so the prosecution is expected to now seek a civil commitment for him in a facility.
IDK if Greene County will go this route with Chris Chan, but it is possible because of the high profile of the case. They probably don't want more negative publicity.
 
Look at the Ashanti Billie case, a judge in 2019 didn't want to order forcible medication even though the suspect was charged with murder. Later in that case, after voluntarily (?) medicating of the client it was then determined that he couldn't be restored to competency in 2020. Meaning the dude was bat shit crazy even with meds on board and possibly a danger to society, so the prosecution is expected to now seek a civil commitment for him in a facility.
IDK if Greene County will go this route with Chris Chan, but it is possible because of the high profile of the case. They probably don't want more negative publicity.
This is a real outlier of a case and not technically an insanity defense. He's incompetent to stand trial now, and they haven't analyzed his sanity at the time of the crime. Among other unusual things, apparently even the government-retained experts (who almost always find the defendant sane enough to stand trial) agreed this dude is far gone.

It isn't even as if there's the possibility of the usual scenario that causes juries to reject insanity defenses against people who commit heinous crimes, i.e., that some "liberal doctor" is going to go full retard and release the guy to commit more crimes after being fooled into thinking he's sane.

If he turns out sane, he doesn't get released, he just (like Brian David Mitchell) goes straight to trial for murder, where I'd assume he'd make an insanity plea there as well. If found NGRI, he probably just goes straight back to the same nuthatch, probably forever.
 
Price at 1989 ~110 USD, price today if in good shape ~280 USD after 33 years.

And what part of that is inflation?


Not to mention there are probably some interesting transformers in the mix, etc.

Forget the broken and filthy toys. The real profits would come from selling Chris artifacts to weens. Sure you might get a few bucks for a used optimus (I just realized I can't think of the names of any other transformers), after spending all the time cleaning off all the filth and repairing Chris' "improvements", would you even break minimum wage? Meanwhile what would you get for the amnyfest ring? You wouldn't need to clean it; leaving the Chris filth on it would only increase the price.


If some sets are complete

You'd have to extract the various pieces out of the half melted remains of the lego high school etc. first. Is it really worth that much time and effort?

Chris bought complete sets, but immediately after purchase they stopped being complete. He'd pay $500 for a limited edition Girl Power Ghostbusters set only to immediately separate out all the pieces for his own creations (throwing out the instructions booklet in the process) and cover them with modeling clay and paint.


If chris became homeless

If?

If Chris ever does go homeless on the street

If?
 
There are discussions here that Chris would be looked after by white knights/weens/enablers once Barb kicks the bucket and the bank takes 14 BLC. There is no doubt Chris will be homeless. It's just that some people will either take Chris in for an attempt to comfort and give him social skills (like the Elephant Man), or put Chris in some sort of bizarre lolcow freakshow where people throw money at him. The thing is, people will quickly realize (if they haven't already), that associating with Chris in any fashion results in disaster.
 
If only Bob knew the trend of Magic the Gathering.
well, he was already hanging out in the game store playing Pokemon cards, and as i understand he never really learned to play the Pokemon card game all that well and was getting beaten by little kids, i don't see him ever getting into Mtg, he is too autistic and smelly even for that crowd.

how sad for someone too much of a sperg to hang out with the regular spergs, Chris can't even stand metal music. If he was a better at videogames he could have been into competitive Smash later on though.
 
There are discussions here that Chris would be looked after by white knights/weens/enablers once Barb kicks the bucket and the bank takes 14 BLC.

The court will place him somewhere. As @Pointless Sperg points out, they're required to by recent law.

Chris will fuck that up. The rest of his life will be a cycle of jail, tard homes, and the street.

It's possible Cole might take over the mortgage at 14BLC and flip it himself. Regardless, from our perspective, only one thing matters there: Chris will NOT be returning to 14BLC, and that will devastate him.

The thing is, people will quickly realize (if they haven't already), that associating with Chris in any fashion results in disaster.

This. Be it Target, Walmart, various game stores, ween's couches, or managed adult foster homes, Chris wears out his welcome very quickly.
 
Chris will NOT be returning to 14BLC, and that will devastate him.
Would he be able to keep his car or would that be liquidated? i think the only thing that would truly devastate Chris at this point is loosing his tugboat, even jail doesn't devastate him. I can see a homeless Chris driving around playing Pokemon Go on his phone, looking for free wifi spots and asking weens for gas money.
 
The court will place him somewhere. As @Pointless Sperg points out, they're required to by recent law.
I work in a homeless shelter and the cops call us to put people here sometimes. At least at the place I’m at he’d probably be disruptive enough to get kicked out for individual nights but not 86’d entirely. We have a secret agent who thinks the shelter is her base of operations but no Jesus, the other regulars here just go along with it and so do the staff.
 
Would he be able to keep his car or would that be liquidated?

Barb already took care of that. Son-Chu is gone.

i think the only thing that would truly devastate Chris at this point is loosing his tugboat,

Assuming he knows how to navigate the Social Security bureaucracy, Chris will keep his tugboat. More likely whatever "special adults" home he is placed in will do that for him, but keep the tugboat for themselves as the price for putting up with Chris. Chris' days of "some lego" are probably over.


I work in a homeless shelter

Bless you.

and the cops call us to put people here sometimes.

Long term or short term? The way I read the law, the court is required (or at least required to make the attempt for thirty days) to find more or less permanent housing for Chris (permanent, that is, until Chris fucks it up). That says to me "adult foster home" (or even more managed care) than "shelter".

That said, regardless of where he's eventually placed, I see a lot of time in shelters in Chris' future.
 
Barb already took care of that. Son-Chu is gone.



Assuming he knows how to navigate the Social Security bureaucracy, Chris will keep his tugboat. More likely whatever "special adults" home he is placed in will do that for him, but keep the tugboat for themselves as the price for putting up with Chris. Chris' days of "some lego" are probably over.




Bless you.



Long term or short term? The way I read the law, the court is required (or at least required to make the attempt for thirty days) to find more or less permanent housing for Chris (permanent, that is, until Chris fucks it up). That says to me "adult foster home" (or even more managed care) than "shelter".

That said, regardless of where he's eventually placed, I see a lot of time in shelters in Chris' future.
It’s supposed to be short term but there’s nothing stopping people from just coming back every day indefinitely. I’m sure other places are different but I’m in a small remote town and most of the long term residents have no other options due to age/mental illness/decades long drug or alcohol use, the people who get jobs are gone once they get their first or second paycheck.
 
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I’m sure other places are different but I’m in a small remote town

Most of the long term managed care facilities are in the cities or their immediate suburbs. It makes the weekly "field trips" to doctor appointments, pharmacies, grocery stores etc. shorter and easier. I'm betting Chris will end up somewhere around Richmond or possibly Virginia Beach (though I still hold out hope for Accomac). He will not be well pleased by this.

most of the long term residents have no other options due to age/mental illness/decades long drug or alcohol use

At least you're providing one option. Many places have none.

the people who get jobs are gone once they get their first or second paycheck.

Chris will not be one of those people.

Off Topic: There really needs to be more transitional, medium term facilities to provide stability so people can grab their bootstraps without worrying about where their next meal and bed will be, but all the money seems to go to paper pushers in office blocks instead of the shelters where it's actually needed. And I need to stop now before I start really ranting about that.
 
Off Topic: There really needs to be more transitional, medium term facilities to provide stability so people can grab their bootstraps without worrying about where their next meal and bed will be, but all the money seems to go to paper pushers in office blocks instead of the shelters where it's actually needed. And I need to stop now before I start really ranting about that.

There's a very nice tard farm in the mountains west of Ruckersville called Innisfree Village, but they don't seem to accept HCVs, and the cutoff age for new residents is 35. Searching on https://www.autismhousingnetwork.org/housing/ it looks like there's a couple in Richmond right now that accept HCVs that are also accepting placements at the moment.

In Charlottesville proper there's a transitional housing SRO called The Crossings, but I think it's full right now, and is more oriented towards homeless recovery in general (though it does have mental health services).
 
It's best for Chris to be given a bare minimum permament housing like those in Hong Kong

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There's a very nice tard farm in the mountains west of Ruckersville called Innisfree Village,

I just looked it up. It looks way too nice a place to have Chris inflicted on it.

it looks like there's a couple in Richmond right now that accept HCVs that are also accepting placements at the moment.

I'm not sure they'd be up to the task of managing Chris. There's a lot more wrong with Chris than just Autism. That said, it's worth a try. Better than nothing. Chris can't stay in jail forever.

In Charlottesville proper there's a transitional housing SRO called The Crossings, but I think it's full right now, and is more oriented towards homeless recovery in general (though it does have mental health services).

That's more what I was talking about. We need more because they are ALWAYS full.

However this is not for Chris' sake. It would be wasted on him. The bed would be better used by someone with a chance of getting their shit together (and the will to do so).

Once again, thanks for doing the homework. It really says something when the internet is more willing and capable of finding ways of taking care of Chris than his own family etc.


I hope someone is routinely checking the obituaries.

Someone would have to be regularly checking 14BLC first. And also bother to tell (and possibly pay) the paper.

Edit: It would be so useful if we had a Ruckersville Meals on Wheels volunteer on the forums.
 
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