Grand Jury speculation thread

What will the next legal development be?

  • Grand Jury declares Chris fit for trial

    Votes: 458 30.3%
  • Grand Jury declares Chris a brokebrain and unfit for trial

    Votes: 203 13.4%
  • CONTINUANCE!

    Votes: 220 14.6%
  • Plea deal

    Votes: 122 8.1%
  • The US collapses, Chris escapes from jail and becomes a cult-leader

    Votes: 208 13.8%
  • The Merge occurs

    Votes: 301 19.9%

  • Total voters
    1,512
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What if an inmate doesn't have any money and just has to eat the provided food? Stuff I've seen with prison documentaries show that's barely adequate enough.
It's possible but it's extremely rare for anyone not to earn money in prison, either legally or illegally. And if you're in jail, unless you were already completely broke and homeless you probably have some money available.
 
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What if an inmate doesn't have any money and just has to eat the provided food? Stuff I've seen with prison documentaries show that's barely adequate enough.

It's possible but it's extremely rare for anyone not to earn money in prison, either legally or illegally. And if you're in jail, unless you were already completely broke and homeless you probably have some money available.

Adding onto this, the stuff in comissary is extremely low priced because of how little prisoners are allowed to make. Items are usually only a few cents.
 
Adding onto this, the stuff in comissary is extremely low priced because of how little prisoners are allowed to make. Items are usually only a few cents.

What? Maybe some places, but in most places commissary prices range from discount store prices, and in some places it goes up to convenience store prices, and in the worst places airport convenience store prices. The logistics company that supplies the commissary (usually Keefe) gets a cut and the jail/prison gets a cut.

For a little while it was worse but then a lot of states passed laws limiting the markup, and usually the markup is based on wholesale price rather than msrp, so the end result is the prices are about the same as you'd find in the cheapest stores.

Electronics and communications services are still usually marked up heavily, as opposed to groceries. For instance in the places that have introduced email they started charging 50 cents or more per email (they call it a "stamp"). Phone calls cost ~$6 for a 15 minute phone call, etc.

EDIT: So if you're getting money from outside, 60 cents for a packet of ramen is totally reasonable. It's only usurious when you consider how low pay is for prison labor. Also Chris is in jail, where there usually aren't job programs because most people aren't there very long, and a huge chunk of the people in jail aren't convicted yet and thus it would be illegal to pay them below minimum wage.

The jail commissaries thus make most of their money on transaction fees from people putting money into the system, and from electronic services and nice-to-have items. The days of them charging a 100% markup on groceries are mostly over. But on the other hand, I don't know of any where they charge only a few cents for anything.
 
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What if an inmate doesn't have any money and just has to eat the provided food? Stuff I've seen with prison documentaries show that's barely adequate enough.
I'm not a nutritionist and I don't have firsthand experience but I don't believe prison food is very healthy. I doubt it'd force you into starvation weightloss. It's probably low-effort salt-packed heavily-frozen shite that would probably at least help you stay a fat fucker. It's probably on that fuzzy borderline where it makes you retain weight rather than lose or gain it. Plus let's be honest Chris is getting money from weens and "well wishers".

I don't want to dox myself or powerlevel but I'll clarify my statement by saying I used to work for both an electrical firm and, later, a custodial firm and did some longer-term (4-5 weeks in the former case, doing 4-day weeks, two days in the latter case) stuff in what would probably be considered a very low security prison. I was never truly face to face with any prisoners, but I saw plenty of interactions from afar/through glass and shit and spoke to the screws for hours at a time because those guys are mad bored. The latter was specialized call-out cleanup, hence why I wasn't like, on-staff. I no longer work either of these jobs though so my perspective is... neeuhhh. Out of date. But I've actually been boot-on-the-ground in there.
 
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A sexual predator can be a sexual predator without having any particular target demographic. I think Chis is desperate. He has no boundaries. Anyone who is vulnerable, whether young, old or slow in the head is at risk from him. It all depends on the opportunity.
Chris has severely messed up sexual boundaries, but the fortunate thing is that he's mostly too incompetent to be a serious threat to anyone. Like it's a good thing that he didn't win that PaRappa contest where he thought he would take Megan to PAX and fuck her, but I don't think she would have been in any danger even if he won. He creeped her out enough that she wouldn't have agreed to go, and even if she did, she would run away back to Virginia as soon as he tried to make a move. The closest he ever got before incestgate was trying to kiss Emily and Catherine on dates, but that didn't end well for him. Obviously Barb was the exception, but I think she was a special case. Not only is she extremely old, but Chris was grooming her for months and there were incest undertones in their relationship for years. Most people who aren't required to be around Chris due to being a relative would bail out way before it got to that point, and he wouldn't have any ability to stop them.
 
Chris has severely messed up sexual boundaries, but the fortunate thing is that he's mostly too incompetent to be a serious threat to anyone. Like it's a good thing that he didn't win that PaRappa contest where he thought he would take Megan to PAX and fuck her, but I don't think she would have been in any danger even if he won. He creeped her out enough that she wouldn't have agreed to go, and even if she did, she would run away back to Virginia as soon as he tried to make a move. The closest he ever got before incestgate was trying to kiss Emily and Catherine on dates, but that didn't end well for him. Obviously Barb was the exception, but I think she was a special case. Not only is she extremely old, but Chris was grooming her for months and there were incest undertones in their relationship for years. Most people who aren't required to be around Chris due to being a relative would bail out way before it got to that point, and he wouldn't have any ability to stop them.

Incompetence ≠ not capable.

Everyone joked about Chris having sex with Barb. Until he did it. He's an opportunist. We haven't seen worse because the opportunity hasn't arisen, but if circumstances arose where Chris had the capability to take advantage? Well we already know the answer. It's a silver lining that Chris isn't competent and active about his passions because this could've gotten a lot darker a lot sooner. It's the same reason why we should limit the possibilities so that it won't happen.
 
I'm not a nutritionist and I don't have firsthand experience but I don't believe prison food is very healthy. I doubt it'd force you into starvation weightloss. It's probably low-effort salt-packed heavily-frozen shite that would probably at least help you stay a fat fucker. It's probably on that fuzzy borderline where it makes you retain weight rather than lose or gain it. Plus let's be honest Chris is getting money from weens and "well wishers".

It really depends on the facility and what the regulations are in the jurisdiction. Generally they are required to meet nutritional requirements for inmates. How they achieve this goal varies.

Most facilities will serve basically what you'd get at a school lunch at a non-wealthy public school. It's not great food but it's not terrible either. Just typical institutional food. Lots of stuff shipped in by Sysco, which you'll probably be familiar with if you've ever had any involvement with any business or institution that provides food and beverages.

Aramark runs the food at a lot of facilities in the US. They do corporate/institutional catering in general so you'll see them at all sorts of places. Convention centers, stadiums, hospitals, and whatnot. The other big player is Keefe. Keefe used to mostly do commissary but they bought Trinity, which did both commissary and catering. There are plenty of contracts now where all food and groceries are handled as a package by Keefe.

How the local facility chooses to go about the food issue is still up to them. The one guiding principle is that it has to be cheap. It can be cheap and nutritious but not very good tasting, or they can spike it with optional foods that aren't so nutritious but use cheap salt/hfcs to make the prisoners happier.

In the past they used to use something called nutraloaf as a punishment. It's perfectly healthy but incredibly bland. A lot of jurisdictions have suspended the process as it's considered cruel by many people. However nutraloaf is definitely a good way to lose weight, because it's completely unenjoyable to eat.
 
Chris claimed in a letter she was, iirc.


Fuck. I stand corrected and the world looks a little darker (:_(At least that event might be the last straw for venues and maybe it won’t happen again.
Even if she was it looks like it didn't last and the car crash/aunt Herriet stepping in put th kibbosh on that.

Fuck me they are both so toxic they are radioactive.
 
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Stuff I've seen with prison documentaries show that's barely adequate enough.

It depends on the prison. I've heard the food at Club Fed can be pretty good.


At least that event might be the last straw for venues and maybe it won’t happen again.

Yeah, rainfurrest is dead. No hotel or convention center will take them. That's what happens when convention organizers don't do everything they can to limit the liabilities in their convention. Keeping Chris out is one good way to eliminate liabilities.


In the past they used to use something called nutraloaf as a punishment.

Also for prisoners who can't be trusted with spoons etc.

It's perfectly healthy but incredibly bland. A lot of jurisdictions have suspended the process as it's considered cruel by many people. However nutraloaf is definitely a good way to lose weight, because it's completely unenjoyable to eat.

It's no worse than half the stuff in the vegan section of your local grocery store. So, yeah, I guess it would be considered cruel and inhumane.
 
I'm not a nutritionist and I don't have firsthand experience but I don't believe prison food is very healthy. I doubt it'd force you into starvation weightloss. It's probably low-effort salt-packed heavily-frozen shite that would probably at least help you stay a fat fucker. It's probably on that fuzzy borderline where it makes you retain weight rather than lose or gain it.
One thing Chris mentioned was losing weight while he was inside. While I don't think it's because of his new found workout skills, I do think it's because that even with commissary, it's not the 6000+ or whatever calories a day Chris is normally used to. Sure he's probably still a fatty fat, but it sounds like the jail he's at would have a limited selection in their commissary.
Plus let's be honest Chris is getting money from weens and "well wishers".
Are they still though? Is he able to access his SSDI now or is all the money he's able to get just from donations? I know there's a theory that Chris might not be writing because he can't afford stamps. Given that his letters aren't the comedic masterpieces of a tard in limbo everybody thinks, and just the same crap, over and over, I think a lot of weens are getting really bored with Chris.
 
Are they still though? Is he able to access his SSDI now or is all the money he's able to get just from donations? I know there's a theory that Chris might not be writing because he can't afford stamps. Given that his letters aren't the comedic masterpieces of a tard in limbo everybody thinks, and just the same crap, over and over, I think a lot of weens are getting really bored with Chris.

He probably can't directly access his accounts and needs help with someone on the outside to make the transfers. That's if his SSDI is actually coming in and not mistakenly suspended (if it is, he can get his back payments back later), or if he even has any comprehension of what is happening financially.

Regarding stamps, most jurisdictions give inmates an allowance of free stamps each week/each month. I believe in Virginia, they get two free outbound letters each week. You'll notice that some of Chris' letters have him writing "free issue" on them.
 
He probably can't directly access his accounts and needs help with someone on the outside to make the transfers. That's if his SSDI is actually coming in and not mistakenly suspended (if it is, he can get his back payments back later), or if he even has any comprehension of what is happening financially.

Regarding stamps, most jurisdictions give inmates an allowance of free stamps each week/each month. I believe in Virginia, they get two free outbound letters each week. You'll notice that some of Chris' letters have him writing "free issue" on them.
Part of me wonders if Barbs begging pre crash was her not being able to access it either.
 
Think of all the things Chris will have missed out on before then. The first pictures from the James Webb Space Telescope, new Covid variants and the possible start of a war with Russia. What a time to be alive.

He has a radio, so he can at least hear news. Not that I think he actually pays attention to news. He probably has access to newspapers/magazines to see pictures too.
 
He has a radio, so he can at least hear news. Not that I think he actually pays attention to news. He probably has access to newspapers/magazines to see pictures too.

He'll have missed out on the fact that Lego made a Sonic set for the first time. That seems like what would be the biggest news for him.
 
He has a radio, so he can at least hear news. Not that I think he actually pays attention to news. He probably has access to newspapers/magazines to see pictures too.

He's listening to that Pop channel he used to listen to in his car, it's essentially modern top of the pops and yesterdays pop songs and a little light banter but nothing in the way of real news just traffic updates or emergency information etc.
 
Think of all the things Chris will have missed out on before then. The first pictures from the James Webb Space Telescope, new Covid variants and the possible start of a war with Russia. What a time to be alive.
None of these things are happening in rural Virginia so Chris doesn't care
 
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