Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Heads of DNR and LNR have officially requested aid in repelling Ukrainian aggression.
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Honestly, Ukraine is like some poor insect facing the onslaught of ants slowly being butchered.
 
US has not flown manned spyplanes over ukraine today. only unmanned RQ-4 global hawks. if there are more US aircraft in ukrainian airspace they are not flying with a transponder.

if the drones turn of thier transponder's that would be a sign that something is happening.
 
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you can at least look at the map or may be get familiar with the landscape ... before mega-sperging and shitting up the thread with your conclusions.
Sometimes researching first rather than sperging might seem gay, hating America, wherever.

Anyhow, somewhat contrary to my own expectations (did some looking a little while ago), it is substantially undulating, even quite mountainous in places. It might not be mountainous in the Donbass area, but the land isn't flat steppe land, or whatever is flat. Anyhow, even a relatively flat piece of land with low density housing, farms, lanes, trees, garages, workshops, chapels, industrial units, what has plenty of places to hide. I suppose the Ukrainian government will have to make a decision to engage in their own hybrid war, which Zelenskyy giving speeches in front of a map including Crimea is not (although simply refusing to concede might make Putin mad, and he already sounds tilted).
 
Bruh, that was 80 years ago. The world is different. The US is not going to engage in a conventional war with China or Russia because it will result in the fucking nuclear holocaust if China or Russia lose. Why are you seemingly in denial about this? Do you really think Putin, sitting in a bunker with NATO forces closing in, facing the prospect of a Nuremberg style trail and hanging after he loses is not going to glass a few cities in NATO countries and threaten to nuke more in an effort to get NATO to sign a treaty which leaves him in power?

Did you COMPLETELY miss the part where this was a hypothetical situation in which the US invades China, completely unrelated to the situation in Ukraine?
 
Sometimes researching first rather than sperging might seem gay, hating America, wherever.

Anyhow, somewhat contrary to my own expectations (did some looking a little while ago), it is substantially undulating, even quite mountainous in places. It might not be mountainous in the Donbass area, but the land isn't flat steppe land, or whatever is flat. Anyhow, even a relatively flat piece of land with low density housing, farms, lanes, trees, garages, workshops, chapels, industrial units, what has plenty of places to hide. I suppose the Ukrainian government will have to make a decision to engage in their own hybrid war, which Zelenskyy giving speeches in front of a map including Crimea is not (although simply refusing to concede might make Putin mad, and he already sounds tilted).
Just to remind that the USSR wrote the book on partisan warfare doctrine in that region, and Russia has certainly studied the notes. This being a hybrid war they will go after the support bases of the partisans rather than the partisans themselves. That's where the "soft" methods for working with the population kick in, to erode support for the partisans by means of propaganda and helping local population rebuild, providing aid, etc.
 
I wonder if anyone in Russia has thought of offering "Little Eastern Poland" back to the Poles. They nearly bit the hand off the Germans the last time there was a country being dismembered and they were offered a piece of the pie.
 
I wonder if people realize just how little the people on the ground care about which oligarch is in charge after 7 years of this shit. They'll pledge allegiance to Stalin's corpse if it means no more shelling, no water and power outages, less criminal activity, and being able to travel with no restrictions. The vast majority of people want stability, not to die in a ditch over some idiotic nationalistic idea. This is why people in Mariupol will greet Russian troops as liberators.
people in mariupol will greet russian troops as liberators because like 90% of them are russians themselves

my long term takeaway from this whole situation is that ethnic diversity has once again proven to be a disaster. wherever national borders do not align with demographics, trouble will soon follow.
 
Just to remind that the USSR wrote the book on partisan warfare doctrine in that region, and Russia has certainly studied the notes. This being a hybrid war they will go after the support bases of the partisans rather than the partisans themselves. That's where the "soft" methods for working with the population kick in, to erode support for the partisans by means of propaganda and helping local population rebuild, providing aid, etc.
The populations of these 'Republics' are subsidised by Russia, and the people see themselves as Russian. Hearts and minds warfare might be hard, too hard. Rather tactics could include just showing that neither the 'Republics' nor Russia cannot protect civilians, but doing the necessary might be beyond the soft woke CIA, although they once knew this School of Americas stuff back to front. All in Minecraft.
 
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