The End of Funimation - Cucked to Death by Crunchyroll

Which is why I said I don’t get why people are acting like this is some massive win against the people at funimation they hate, they just merged into an even bigger company at the cost of the old name. If anything this guarantees more work for the people they hate since it means less direct competition for licensing lol. Two comments up is someone talking about funimation dying when it’s literally just not what’s happening

And as for the CEO thing I was just working with this timeline, it seems like he was working higher up at funimation while crunchyroll got bought, and is now being described as the CEO of crunchyroll in the press release from yesterday no?

Alternatively, if you're on Team Funimation, I don't see how this is a win. I don't view this as a rebranding. It's a merger, and most mergers aren't just 1+1=2 since that's inefficient and the original rationale is mostly about market share, not workforce. With most mergers, human beings that are viewed as redundancies are eliminated. Human beings that are viewed as hindrances to the goals of corporate management are also eliminated. Many of the people who called the shots on the Vic stuff will probably get gone even if dubbing is still going on.

It's an even bigger loss since Sony is choosing Crunchyroll as the winning brand here, which lessens leverage for people only associated with Funimation. Funimation was never just a dubbing studio. Maybe the dubbing studio and physical release arm survives there, but the entire managment structure could be replaced, which is significant, and entire other departments elimianted.

As far as the dubbing side goes, they could need more dubbing. But also Funimation was the company that had the culture of all anime should be dubbed. They only released a hand full of things sub only from what I remember, and they are the ones who were pushing "simuldubs." Crunchyroll was never part of that dub everything culture. So the new company culture could be quite different.

Personally, I don't know how much of a win this is overall if you care about more than punishing Funimation. Depends on how much you trust and like Sony and Crunchyroll more than Funimation, and a lot of fans certainly don't. Overall, though, Funimation was pretty sloppy in recent years in protecting their brand name, and that has come back to haunt them it seems.
 
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Alternatively, if you're on Team Funimation, I don't see how this is a win. I don't view this as a rebranding. It's a merger, and most mergers aren't just 1+1=2 since that's inefficient and the original rationale is mostly about market share, not workforce. With most mergers, human beings that are viewed as redundancies are eliminated. Human beings that viewed as hindrances to the goals of corporate management are also eliminated. Many of the people who called the shots on the Vic stuff will probably get gone even if dubbing is still going on.
by what logic would the vic people be gone? who are they being replaced with from the crunchyroll merger? as far as im aware crunchyroll doesnt really have their own studio or internal dubbing, pretty much all their translation work is free lance and thier dubbing is outsourced. why would anyone involved in the dubbing process in texas lose thier job? who are these employees that replace them? are they willing to move to texas where the studio that sony owns is based out of? im really not seeing the logic in this. but yes some redunent postions from people that I've never heard of might lose their job.

As far as the dubbing side goes, they could need more dubbing. But also Funimation was the company that had the culture of all anime should be dubbed. They only released a hand full of things sub only from what I remember, and they are the ones who were pushing "simuldubs." Crunchyroll was never part of that dub everything culture. So the new company culture could be quite different.
yes funimation was the dub everything culure...but funimation has been owned by sony for years now and that motto hasnt changed, why would aquircing even more IP and less competion change that? you guys seeing this as a pure even merger are really underestimating that sony and funimation have already been a single entity and doing things together for awhile now, getting crunchyroll shouldnt change thier goals all that much. and the Reason Crunchyroll was never part of that dub everything culture was as I said earlier, they outsourced pretty much everything, they could only outsource so many before.

Like once again, you guys are underestimating how big the work in texas is from funimation. This was not some deathmatch fight between funimation and crunchyroll. Even though Funimation is getting rebranded as "Crunchyroll LLC", they are still the acting parent company of Crunchyroll. So it's kind of going exactly how everyone anticipated; Crunchyroll will be the streaming service while Funimation will be the distribution, ADR source, and licensing. The only difference is Sony opting to go under a single brand name. thats why this colin dude i linked earlier was one of the heads of funimation and now in charge of the new crunchyroll entity, the voice actors at funimation have already been working through the aquistion behind the scenes, they wouldnt wait unitl offical announcments to start massive reshuffling or firing. It for the most part seems like the people who actually work on the product are largely the same.

but time will ultimatly tell, but it seems pretty clear as long as sony still sees dubs as profitable and worth doing, it would be counter productive to get rid of one of the biggest studios for doing it
 
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Guess I'll cancel my Funimation premium and move over to Crunchy Roll. Did they say when the library will be moved over and I just missed it?
 
Guess I'll cancel my Funimation premium and move over to Crunchy Roll. Did they say when the library will be moved over and I just missed it?
They’ve been working on it already I guess, they said 80% of the catalog will be in crunchyroll by the end of the month.

But I’ve seen people who aren’t sure if that means only 80% in total is getting moved over, or if it was just 80% by the end of the month and the rest the next month or so. Would be weird for them to not bring every title over so I’m not sure why they would
 
by what logic would the vic people be gone? who are they being replaced with from the crunchyroll merger? as far as im aware crunchyroll doesnt really have their own studio or internal dubbing, pretty much all their translation work is free lance and thier dubbing is outsourced. why would anyone involved in the dubbing process in texas lose thier job? who are these employees that replace them? are they willing to move to texas where the studio that sony owns is based out of? im really not seeing the logic in this. but yes some redunent postions from people that I've never heard of might lose their job.


yes funimation was the dub everything culure...but funimation has been owned by sony for years now and that motto hasnt changed, why would aquircing even more IP and less competion change that? you guys seeing this as a pure even merger are really underestimating that sony and funimation have already been a single entity and doing things together for awhile now, getting crunchyroll shouldnt change thier goals all that much. and the Reason Crunchyroll was never part of that dub everything culture was as I said earlier, they outsourced pretty much everything, they could only outsource so many before.

Like once again, you guys are underestimating how big the work in texas is from funimation. This was not some deathmatch fight between funimation and crunchyroll. Even though Funimation is getting rebranded as "Crunchyroll LLC", they are still the acting parent company of Crunchyroll. So it's kind of going exactly how everyone anticipated; Crunchyroll will be the streaming service while Funimation will be the distribution, ADR source, and licensing. The only difference is Sony opting to go under a single brand name. thats why this colin dude i linked earlier was one of the heads of funimation and now in charge of the new crunchyroll entity, the voice actors at funimation have already been working through the aquistion behind the scenes, they wouldnt wait unitl offical announcments to start massive reshuffling or firing. It for the most part seems like the people who actually work on the product are largely the same.

but time will ultimatly tell, but it seems pretty clear as long as sony still sees dubs as profitable and worth doing, it would be counter productive to get rid of one of the biggest studios for doing it

Because corporate restructuring is heavily implied here? It's not only the voice actors we talk about on here that had a hand in what happened to Vic. In fact, some of the people, like one of the lawyers involved, was already get gonned a long time ago.

Who claimed it was a death match fight between Crunchy Roll and Funimation? This would be like if Disney bought MSNBC first and then later CNN and then told everyone that MSNBC is being phased out. I don't really understand where you or Twitter are coming from claiming that total status quo will be maintained even to the point you still refer to one part of the entity with a name it no longer has. We have third party news sites claiming the opposite.

Usually, when a larger company wants to do changes to one of the widgets it bought and added to its portfolio of 40 widgets, it doesn't enact all the huge changes immediately. Usually, there are periods of transition to ease the pain of forcing it to evolve. I think we've gotten pretty big indicators that more change is coming instead of them just having to swap out signage.
 
I think that regardless of how you feel about Funi or CR, you have to agree that a larger media conglomerate in the anime localization industry is not a good thing because the bigger these companies get, the more influence they have on anime in Japan. We've already seen Crunchyroll funding adaptations of Western comics, Korean manhwa, and entirely Western-animated projects and calling them "anime". Gaijin companies like CR getting their filthy little hands into anime production, will, if not stopped, end up bringing it down to a level where it's no different from Hollywood.
 
Because corporate restructuring is heavily implied here?
such as? you kinda just glossed over all my very obvious questions/statements. who is going to replace the people working on actual anime? Crunchyroll did not do a lot in house, they have not gained a massive work force like the texas studio has. If they fire a bunch of the texas talent they either go to something like sentai works in texas, or go to la and get work through a 3rd company thats probably gonna work for crunchyroll again, why would they go through the effort when they already have control of the talent in the cheaper state to work for? theres literally nothing to indicate that the Sony has any massive changes planned in terms of production, theyve gained a competitor, a bigger streaming site, and more IP that the texas studio can work on. If you guys want to talk about behind the scenes lawyers or whoever thats fine though.

like Sony did not need to aquire crunchyroll to make any changes, they couldve gutted the company and hired sentai works for everything on the cheap while oursourticing the translations, but theyve never done any of that really, instead they built a new studio in texas a year or two ago(I dont know if its a 2nd studio or they just relocated)

Like if crunchyroll had resources and direct man power comparable to funimation this would be a different story, but the two companies were handling things very differently, and now with them combined everything can be a little more streamlined, weve already seen the texas talent working on my crunchyroll anime, or their scripts being used over on that site for months now. they simply didnt aquire the man power to up and replace peope in texas from this aquistion, and nothing is really suggesting they want to, just that they want to go with the bigger app and name
 
such as? you kinda just glossed over all my very obvious questions/statements. who is going to replace the people working on actual anime? Crunchyroll did not do a lot in house, they have not gained a massive work force like the texas studio has. If they fire a bunch of the texas talent they either go to something like sentai works in texas, or go to la and get work through a 3rd company thats probably gonna work for crunchyroll again, why would they go through the effort when they already have control of the talent in the cheaper state to work for? theres literally nothing to indicate that the Sony has any massive changes planned in terms of production, theyve gained a competitor, a bigger streaming site, and more IP that the texas studio can work on. If you guys want to talk about behind the scenes lawyers or whoever thats fine though.

like Sony did not need to aquire crunchyroll to make any changes, they couldve gutted the company and hired sentai works for everything on the cheap while oursourticing the translations, but theyve never done any of that really, instead they built a new studio in texas a year or two ago(I dont know if its a 2nd studio or they just relocated)

Like if crunchyroll had resources and direct man power comparable to funimation this would be a different story, but the two companies were handling things very differently, and now with them combined everything can be a little more streamlined, weve already seen the texas talent working on my crunchyroll anime, or their scripts being used over on that site for months now. they simply didnt aquire the man power to up and replace peope in texas from this aquistion, and nothing is really suggesting they want to, just that they want to go with the bigger app and name

You're pretending like CrunchyRoll was some kind of a husk of a company when they had superior streaming market share to Funimation without Fumination's help. That's why Sony bought these companies, streaming. Stuff like home video is going the way of the dino, whether we like it or not, although I would assume ex-Funi will continue that for the time being. I also haven't seen many people claiming that Texas will not be dubbing things, so you're mainly battling a strawman here.

But good look with the argument that complete status quo, the same managment positions in Texas and everyone else's jobs will be maintained though wild changes like a company being officially eliminated in a corporate portfolio. I'm sure that will age really well, and I'm sure no future changes will be instituted after this huge bombshell was dropped on everyone.
 
You're pretending like CrunchyRoll was some kind of a husk of a company
i wouldnt say that but they undisputibly outsource more stuff...the texas studio unquestionably has more in house man power, which is going to be an incredbiy vital asset consdering all the IP's collectivly under them now.

I also haven't seen many people claiming that Texas will not be dubbing things, so you're mainly battling a strawman here.
then you arent looking very hard, people absoulty think this is a case of "go woke go broke" and are acting like the texas studio is shutting down shop or something or that the three demons sabat, rial and marchi are going to be jobless soon for absolutly no reason(remember, sony was on thier side in the whole vic shit if im remembering correctly)

people are a being clowns about this, funimation has been on life support apparently since vic was fired according to some people.

But good look with the argument that complete status quo, the same managment positions in Texas and everyone else's jobs will be maintained though wild changes like a company being officially eliminated in a corporate portfolio. I'm sure that will age really well, and I'm sure no future changes will be instituted after this huge bombshell was dropped on everyone.
none of that is what im saying, i was simply providing the counter point to the peope acting like some actors are definitly going to be fired which isnt the case. My point has always been as long as sony see dubs worth doing, they arent going to do much to the core talent in texas, behind the scenes postions are sure to get shuffled around(athough ive proven thats happening the opposite way, one of funimations heads is still in charge over whover wouldve had his position at crunchyroll) people are dancing on the grave of a name change, while ignoring sony and by extension funimations are the ones who absored crunchyroll, changing your company name doesnt change whos in charge, and so far one of the only names we can put to this new merged entity is from funimations side.
 
i wouldnt say that but they undisputibly outsource more stuff...the texas studio unquestionably has more in house man power, which is going to be an incredbiy vital asset consdering all the IP's collectivly under them now.


then you arent looking very hard, people absoulty think this is a case of "go woke go broke" and are acting like the texas studio is shutting down shop or something or that the three demons sabat, rial and marchi are going to be jobless soon for absolutly no reason(remember, sony was on thier side in the whole vic shit if im remembering correctly)

people are a being clowns about this, funimation has been on life support apparently since vic was fired according to some people.


none of that is what im saying, i was simply providing the counter point to the peope acting like some actors are definitly going to be fired which isnt the case. My point has always been as long as sony see dubs worth doing, they arent going to do much to the core talent in texas, behind the scenes postions are sure to get shuffled around(athough ive proven thats happening the opposite way, one of funimations heads is still in charge over whover wouldve had his position at crunchyroll) people are dancing on the grave of a name change, while ignoring sony and by extension funimations are the ones who absored crunchyroll, changing your company name doesnt change whos in charge, and so far one of the only names we can put to this new merged entity is from funimations side.
Funimation doesn't exist outside America so it's obvious why sony did the merger. Nothing more nothing less.
 
Funimation doesn't exist outside America so it's obvious why sony did the merger. Nothing more nothing less.
This wasn't true. They had already began expanding outside the US several years ago:

In 2016, Funimation began directly releasing some of its titles in the United Kingdom and Ireland with Funimation branding, with Funimation handling licensing and localization, and Anime Limited handling distribution and classification.[126] Funimation later distributed My Hero Academia in the region through Universal Pictures UK in 2017,[127] and later through Sony Pictures UK, along with other select titles, in 2018.[128] Funimation later began sub-licensing titles to Manga Entertainment's UK branch in late 2018, before acquiring the company on May 29, 2019, and releasing titles directly.[64] On September 24, 2019, Sony Pictures Television and Aniplex consolidated their international anime streaming businesses, with Funimation becoming the leading company for the group.[12]

Funimation also began directly distributing its titles in Australia and New Zealand in 2017. Similar to the UK and Ireland, select titles were released through Universal Sony Pictures Home Entertainment from 2017 to 2018. From September 2018, Funimation transferred distribution to Madman Anime, with the company handling distribution and classification within the region.[129][130]
 
Funimation doesn't exist outside America so it's obvious why sony did the merger. Nothing more nothing less.
Crunchyroll is also the bigger name and has universal brand recognition among normie anime fans. Funimation is more known for being a dubbing studio than for being a streaming app. It’s a no-brainer to let CR keep their identity.
 
In times like these I'm glad I don't pay for anime
Same (4.4 TB). Honestly I had a subscription to CR since they said they were paying animators but canceled it after the Guardian Spice thing. Anime torrenting has been going since the years of Sailor moon at least where people wanted the uncut edition. I myself learned to do it while the first four digimon series aired.
I think that regardless of how you feel about Funi or CR, you have to agree that a larger media conglomerate in the anime localization industry is not a good thing because the bigger these companies get, the more influence they have on anime in Japan. We've already seen Crunchyroll funding adaptations of Western comics, Korean manhwa, and entirely Western-animated projects and calling them "anime". Gaijin companies like CR getting their filthy little hands into anime production, will, if not stopped, end up bringing it down to a level where it's no different from Hollywood.
This is what u worry about. With how adoptions are getting more censorship I do expect them flex their distribution muscles. There is some resistance in nipland, however, but that's mostly artist and politicians, and suits end up caring more about the immediate return than long term investment.
such as? you kinda just glossed over all my very obvious questions/statements. who is going to replace the people working on actual anime? Crunchyroll did not do a lot in house, they have not gained a massive work force like the texas studio has. If they fire a bunch of the texas talent they either go to something like sentai works in texas, or go to la and get work through a 3rd company thats probably gonna work for crunchyroll again, why would they go through the effort when they already have control of the talent in the cheaper state to work for? theres literally nothing to indicate that the Sony has any massive changes planned in terms of production, theyve gained a competitor, a bigger streaming site, and more IP that the texas studio can work on. If you guys want to talk about behind the scenes lawyers or whoever thats fine though.

like Sony did not need to aquire crunchyroll to make any changes, they couldve gutted the company and hired sentai works for everything on the cheap while oursourticing the translations, but theyve never done any of that really, instead they built a new studio in texas a year or two ago(I dont know if its a 2nd studio or they just relocated)

Like if crunchyroll had resources and direct man power comparable to funimation this would be a different story, but the two companies were handling things very differently, and now with them combined everything can be a little more streamlined, weve already seen the texas talent working on my crunchyroll anime, or their scripts being used over on that site for months now. they simply didnt aquire the man power to up and replace peope in texas from this aquistion, and nothing is really suggesting they want to, just that they want to go with the bigger app and name
When it comes to mergers they look at which company did things better. Streaming wise, CR wins so expect all funi streaming staff to get the boot besides a few. Subbing and localization is relatively cheap so they might not put too much emphasis on that. Dubbing will probably stay with Funi, though if Sony is relatively intelligent they would tell their talent to sip it on Twitter. It doesn't help sells and has probably pushed people away.
 
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