Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

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Well, if it's true Chris went to a mental facility then I am glad. Maybe now he will get the help that he actually needs where weens can't get a hold of him. My only concern now is that I've heard some horror stories about mental facilities where patients attack other patients and sometimes no one is around to stop it. That might just be more in a juvenile facility but Chris will be in an adult ward and that may not happen as much there.
 
Probably right, but I'll still hold out for it as a wild card. Senior care is expensive and most of Barb's family cut her off before begrudgingly helping her in the wake of Chris fuckin her, I don't think they're above exploiting her to make some cash to help pay for her expenses.


I don't think anybody thought Chris was going to have a pleasant stay but most people didn't see him going to a mental hospital at this point after he's been in jail for half a year.

Homeless saga is basically inevitable at this point, I'm betting Chris will be on meth within a year and hoarding Lego under a bridge if he doesn't try squatting at 14 BC. Given that he's lived in filth and squalor for years I don't think it's gonna be too big of an adjustment.
The only thing I see actually preventing Chris from getting into hard drugs is the street price. When pushed to the limit, he can actually be functional enough to look after himself so if he doesn't get consigned to an assisted living facility for the rest of his days, he'll likely be some creepy guy who simply just lives out of a cheap rent hotel room paid with the tugboat, but between that and food most of the tugboat will be eaten up. And what's left will be spent on children's toys - "plastic crack" as we in the figure collector community call it (apologies for the slight power level). I just can't picture a dealer even offering a free sample to Chris in the hopes of scamming him out of his money like DSP does with his dent heads, since then I feel like it would turn into a "What about Bob" situation where Chris keeps pestering some small time drug hustler for another hit and "basically promises" to pay (which of course he would always fail to do).
 
I'm not surprised any psych hospital would have less than great reviews. A person is at what they think is the lowest point in their life mentally; then they wind up in a ward of pacing, muttering, people who went off their meds for whatever reason and spiraled down.
Seriously though, if you have to wind up in a Virginia state mental hospital; Western State is the place. It's all newly constructed.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/...ur/@38.1432138,-79.0286964,339m/data=!3m1!1e3 aerial satellite

vs. the old Western State buildings that are on the historic registry but were sold off as retail/ dormitories/ etc.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/...our/@38.1387859,-79.040659,677m/data=!3m1!1e3 aerial satellite
If Chris is really there, he'll probably hate it. Unbeknown to him, he lucked out in the VA state mental hospital situation. Yes, it's probably understaffed and is working on a one discharge to one admission standard. Yet it is the newest and most modern building the state probably has right now.
 
I'm normally hesitant to encourage this topic here, but does anyone have a feeling of how a state mental hospital would approach Chris and gender? The nearest state hospital website does use the typical progressive language around respect and dignity, but it's anyone's guess about how that would be reflected, if at all, in actual policy and procedures. Further, if I had to guess, I would imagine that state run facilities are fairly conservative in their treatment decisions, simply as a result of slower bureaucratic processes. There's also the belief that Chris may never have actually received any treatments or diagnoses from a doctor that they would look to simply continue as the status quo; if he did, they weren't followed through with very long.

There's a world of difference between progressive platitudes and actual procedures on the ground. The horror stories about private gender clinics are popular on here, but does anyone know how actual established facilities approach this?

My guess is that Chris's identity will never really come up as it's just not their problem; they go along with whatever, focusing on just restoring competency. I'm curious to know more about what goes on at these hospitals though. Chris wasn't sent there for dysphoria, but it seems at least narrowly related.

What. The. Fuck. Chris is in rarified air in terms of Villains of Virginia
 
If Chris has the ability to still send letters out [...] Medicated?
doubt they haven't yet realized that the mail is technically harassment feeding his delusions. might even be assault of some type if they read weens telling him 'idea guy'-type shit.

but yes, he's medicated with shit that will make him sleep all the way from dose to dose til he builds a tollerence enough to wake up.

seroquel n ativan... he might come to prefer being wasted over the work of writing.
 
doubt they haven't yet realized that the mail is technically harassment feeding his delusions. might even be assault of some type if they read weens telling him 'idea guy'-type shit.

but yes, he's medicated with shit that will make him sleep all the way from dose to dose til he builds a tollerence enough to wake up.

seroquel n ativan... he might come to prefer being wasted over the work of writing.
I just looked it up on the Western website and one of the patients rights is to be able to write and receive mail.

So either Chris is so out of sorts that our hero must be medicated at all times or like you said he's so stoned/depressed he has no desire to write anymore
 
but yes, he's medicated with shit that will make him sleep all the way from dose to dose til he builds a tollerence enough to wake up.

seroquel n ativan... he might come to prefer being wasted over the work of writing.
Can you back this up or is it speculation?

In the past, Chris had stopped communicating due to falling into stress or grieving his father’s death. It could simply be he’s disappointed that he’s not where he wants to be and not up to doing anything but mope. It could just be he is acclimating to a whole new environment with new rules. He’s been to jail before, but not a mental health facility. Not like this.

Of course there are negative possibilities too, I’m not denying that.
 
I'm normally hesitant to encourage this topic here, but does anyone have a feeling of how a state mental hospital would approach Chris and gender? The nearest state hospital website does use the typical progressive language around respect and dignity, but it's anyone's guess about how that would be reflected, if at all, in actual policy and procedures. Further, if I had to guess, I would imagine that state run facilities are fairly conservative in their treatment decisions, simply as a result of slower bureaucratic processes. There's also the belief that Chris may never have actually received any treatments or diagnoses from a doctor that they would look to simply continue as the status quo; if he did, they weren't followed through with very long.

There's a world of difference between progressive platitudes and actual procedures on the ground. The horror stories about private gender clinics are popular on here, but does anyone know how actual established facilities approach this?

My guess is that Chris's identity will never really come up as it's just not their problem; they go along with whatever, focusing on just restoring competency. I'm curious to know more about what goes on at these hospitals though. Chris wasn't sent there for dysphoria, but it seems at least narrowly related.


What. The. Fuck. Chris is in rarified air in terms of Villains of Virginia
I would think the staff would placate him on the gender thing just to keep him from flipping out. The hospitalization is more or less to keep him from harming himself or others so the legitimacy of his trans status is probably the last thing anyone wants to bother addressing.
 
Well, if it's true Chris went to a mental facility then I am glad. Maybe now he will get the help that he actually needs where weens can't get a hold of him. My only concern now is that I've heard some horror stories about mental facilities where patients attack other patients and sometimes no one is around to stop it. That might just be more in a juvenile facility but Chris will be in an adult ward and that may not happen as much there.
Can we just take a moment and acknowledge that I was right about Chris needed to be put in a psych ward? That I was right about Chris being a disgusting sexual predator?
 
he'll likely be some creepy guy who simply just lives out of a cheap rent hotel room paid with the tugboat,

His tugboat alone will not pay for this. Even if he gets something at like $50/night that will still exceed his tugboat.

He will absolutely need further support, like HCVs. Without services he cannot pay for housing on his own except in the slummiest of government-sponsored low-income SROs in an older city like Richmond.

I just looked it up on the Western website and one of the patients rights is to be able to write and receive mail.

So either Chris is so out of sorts that our hero must be medicated at all times or like you said he's so stoned/depressed he has no desire to write anymore

On intake it is normal for patients to not be able to communicate. It's something that has to be earned (though this can be earned fairly quickly, even a couple of days if you're doing really well).
 
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So either Chris is so out of sorts that our hero must be medicated at all times or like you said he's so stoned/depressed he has no desire to write anymore
[nod] even if he can write, seroquel and ativan are elephant tranquilizers. they're the default "make him stop everything!" drugs that are prescribed like water in prisons n mental wards all through the US. it'll be weeks before he has a thought beyond "nap". then as he builds a tolerance i can easily see him completely giving in to the peaceful diaper changes and asking "is it time for meds yet?".

i'd bet somebody will get a letter in another 2-3 weeks that'll sound just like when he was being put in the cop car telling gunt ralph,
"i [full name] maintain control of cwcville, coma, and everything is still copyright [full name]. upload this with [full name] blessings"
but way sloppy n crocked and rushed. then back to bed.
 
This guy claims there was a suicide attempt incident at CVRJ the day before Chris was transferred to an undisclosed location. How he would know that is beyond me.
Grain of salt.

I'm not gonna transcript this or anything, but so others don't have to watch I'll summarize. The claim isn't that Chris had a suicide attempt but that the guy claims that there was a suicide at CVRJ earlier in the month and that may cause a 'cascade effect' among the inmate population. He isn't clear whether he is claiming that Chris did anything as part of the contagion or that the guards are just overly cautious because of a recent incident; he really makes no connection besides saying two things happened with one before the other.

Like the quoted message says though, there's no evidence at all that the suicide incident even happened. The most recent news article about a suicide at CVRJ is from 2014. This seems top to bottom ridiculous.
 
Used to be the 21st when he was kicked out of class for saying something against gays, IIRC.

The "Love Quest" started soon after that, which means the "Love Quest" consumed almost half his life so far.
Even when the Idea Guys made him do that polyamorous marriage, Chris still yearned for a proper sweetheart. If the mental ward stuff isn't going to get him to stop, I don't know what will.
 
Can we just take a moment and acknowledge that I was right about Chris needed to be put in a psych ward? That I was right about Chris being a disgusting sexual predator?
Sure.

We acknowledge you said those things.

Mari you're like the smartest person I know here
 
Can you back this up or is it speculation?
only that i'm crippled AF and i've been in nursing homes that had sick/elderly/disabled inmates there for treating shit the institutions couldn't get under control n stable. so i've seen some shit n i've heard more. like...
seroquel and ativan are elephant tranquilizers. they're the default "make him stop everything!" drugs that are prescribed like water in prisons n mental wards all through the US. it'll be weeks before he has a thought beyond "nap".
and i have been given ativan by IV when i was first ventilator't, my ass had to be told about a whole week's worth of conversations i carried and had no recollection of.
nuff leveling?
 
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