Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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‘We’ve heard it all before’: Ukrainians brush aside talk of Russian invasion​

‘We’ve heard it all before’: Ukrainians brush aside talk of Russian invasion

In Kyiv and beyond, people carry on with the festive season despite rhetoric about imminent conflict

www.theguardian.com

My guess is Zelesinsky was so chuffed by his place on the WEF and his US kickbacks, he considered Ukraine completely safe. Not realizing that if the Russians did invade, NATO would have their hands tied militarily, as a response on the ground would almost certainly destroy the entire Western European gas infrastructure.

I wonder if he is considering his fate here on out. Fingers crossed the west scapegoats him the way he deserves for being such a tard.

I expect to see more companies following suit. This truly is the new George Floyd
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What is George Floyd in Ukrainian?

"The pink mist of Kiev"

The pantsshitter of Kiev

Zelensky probably figured that since the US put him in power, and his government paid millions to children of US officials, we had his back with the full force & might of the US Armed Forces.

LOL

Nope.

Sorry, faggot, should've paid attention to what happened in Afghanistan. Hope you have better luck than those guys did!

Yeah the guy is a fucking retard. Porschenko knew the game he was playing, Zelensky was a literal comedian before this people thought would make a good president so the oligarchs and US backed him.

Some part of me hopes that Zelensky reaches the "they're gonna kill me no matter what" stage and he releases every single piece of dirt he has on anybody ever.

They will Epstein him before that ever happens.

 

[Turk on the lurk]

Yakovlivka


Zaporizhzhia


Chernihiv - Aftermath of Russian missile attack

Spoiler: NSFW

Hostomel - Destroyed Russian combat vehicles.

Kherson - Booby traps set on buildings.

 

[PhoBingas]

"We planned to win. We'll win eventually."
I-I guess he isn't lying.

Putin sounds like he's overdosing on copium. With all the sanctions are Russians still able to get Cope-Can? I predict an epidemic of copium overdoses in the next few days.

Shitty jokes aside, of course he's going to say its all going according to plan. Do people honestly expect him to say that he thought the Ukrainians to either welcome him with open arms or fold in the first 12 hours?

 

[Toothpaste]

He's realized nobody is coming to help most likely. Ironically nearly all his neighbors being in NATO prevents it. I suspect if two or three of them actually worked together they could hold back the conventional attack, but since they're all NATO, they can't do shit.

I've been of the opinion for the longest time that this is the main issue of NATO's eastward advance. Due to the immediate threat of nuclear war in case of any kind of NATO intervention against any near-peer force, NATO is limited to being a solely defensive alliance. While this is all well and good in terms of mutual security, it also forces all neighbouring countries to directly join NATO to gain any security benefits from them. This makes it, by nature, a bloated and constantly expanding organization.

It would have been much better to have willing ex-Warsaw pact countries in Eastern Europe form their own alliance that would provide mutual security without a direct nuclear capability. Something similar to the proposed interwar "Intermarium" alliance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium

This could have been given mutual assurances by both Russia and NATO to have the nuclear umbrellas of both protect it from any nuclear strikes while simultaneously not expanding either alliance in these contested areas. It would have acted both as a buffer between Russia and NATO, and also allowed for a more active projection of power in the region in case of a crisis like this one. These countries are strong enough together to prevent any direct interference by either NATO or Russia in Eastern Europe.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Not gonna post it here but the Chechens captured an Azov guy and seem to have beheaded him. While I don't like Azov, no one aside from Chechens likes Chechens.

Here's to them wiping each other out to a man!

We have an entire death thread so it can be posted here it just needs to be spoilered.

 

[Probably An Autist]

Yakovlivka
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is this before or after the shelling started?

 

[An Avenging Bird]

Most braindead reddit post I've ever read, and that is saying something
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I genuinely can't tell if that post is in jest.

If it is made earnestly, the Ukrainian army should welcome their new noodle armed purple haired meat shield participant with open arms.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

So if Russia actually gets the kill shot moment of their troops raising a Russian flag over Kiev and the Presidential Palace and the Ukies come and take anything the Russians give them for a peace deal, how will the news outlets and Twitter-faggots respond?

 

[b0x]

Right, but Europe is also banning Russian fuels. So they'll start buying from our sources. The 3rd largest oil producer has been effectively removed from the market overnight and OPEC told everyone to go fuck themselves

This isn't some RTS where you just build new powerplants or infrastructure on a 1 minute timer. A large portion of Western Europe powergrid is based on Natural Gas.

 

[Toothpaste]

Yakovlivka
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Zaporizhzhia
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Chernihiv - Aftermath of Russian missile attack

Spoiler: NSFW

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Hostomel - Destroyed Russian combat vehicles.
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Kherson - Booby traps set on buildings.
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Autonomous booby traps like that are a direct breach of the Ottawa Treaty that Ukraine is a signatory of.

Just shows how little that matters in a real war.

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

I've been of the opinion for the longest time that this is the main issue of NATO's eastward advance. Due to the immediate threat of nuclear war in case of any kind of NATO intervention against any near-peer force, NATO is limited to being a solely defensive alliance. While this is all well and good in terms of mutual security, it also forces all neighbouring countries to directly join NATO to gain any security benefits from them. This makes it, by nature, a bloated and constantly expanding organization.

It would have been much better to have willing ex-Warsaw pact countries in Eastern Europe form their own alliance that would provide mutual security without a direct nuclear capability. Something similar to the proposed interwar "Intermarium" alliance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium

This could have been given mutual assurances by both Russia and NATO to have the nuclear umbrellas of both protect it from any nuclear strikes while simultaneously not expanding either alliance in these contested areas. It would have acted both as a buffer between Russia and NATO, and also allowed for a more active projection of power in the region in case of a crisis like this one. These countries are strong enough together to prevent any direct interference by either NATO or Russia in Eastern Europe.

I would agree but the Intermarium has always been a Polish project to vassalize everyone around them, which is why it never happened. Central and Eastern European states opted instead to ally with western nations such as France. Also the disputes over territory that still exist and have been frozen for 70 years by the great powers that surround them still exist.

 

[Melight]

Most braindead reddit post I've ever read, and that is saying something
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Like a shittier hemingway

 

[mr.moon1488]

So if Russia actually gets the kill shot moment of their troops raising a Russian flag over Kiev and the Presidential Palace and the Ukies come and take anything the Russians give them for a peace deal, how will the news outlets and Twitter-faggots respond?

Probably start demanding the US invade while pulling down all their "Ukraine is winning!" articles.

 

[Generic Retard]

Here, have a video of a brave Ukrainian villager clearing the rubble in his driveway after his village got bombed:

Meanwhile, the German government sends top of the line GDR Strela launchers to Ukraine
I guess they are glad to get more storage for better gear, now that an increase of budget is on the table.
(The crates are literally moulding according to the article lol)

Strela Flugabwehrrakete: NVA, Bundeswehr, Ukraine - alles über die DDR-Waffe

Mit Flugabwehrraketen vom Typ „Strela“ möchte die Bundesregierung die Ukraine im Kampf gegen die russischen Truppen unterstützen. Was sind die Raketen und wie gut sind sie wirklich?

www.swp.de

 

[Vesperus]

So if Russia actually gets the kill shot moment of their troops raising a Russian flag over Kiev and the Presidential Palace and the Ukies come and take anything the Russians give them for a peace deal, how will the news outlets and Twitter-faggots respond?

They'll chuck it in the memory hole next to Afghanistan, Georgia, and the Kurds.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Probably start demanding the US invade while pulling down all their "Ukraine is winning!" articles.

This is my main reason I’ve decided to not support Ukraine. It isn’t that I like Russia, I just don’t want the US to be fighting what should be a war between Slavs.

 

[LUNEKO]

I've been of the opinion for the longest time that this is the main issue of NATO's eastward advance. Due to the immediate threat of nuclear war in case of any kind of NATO intervention against any near-peer force, NATO is limited to being a solely defensive alliance. While this is all well and good in terms of mutual security, it also forces all neighbouring countries to directly join NATO to gain any security benefits from them. This makes it, by nature, a bloated and constantly expanding organization.

It would have been much better to have willing ex-Warsaw pact countries in Eastern Europe form their own alliance that would provide mutual security without a direct nuclear capability. Something similar to the proposed interwar "Intermarium" alliance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium

This could have been given mutual assurances by both Russia and NATO to have the nuclear umbrellas of both protect it from any nuclear strikes while simultaneously not expanding either alliance in these contested areas. It would have acted both as a buffer between Russia and NATO, and also allowed for a more active projection of power in the region in case of a crisis like this one. These countries are strong enough together to prevent any direct interference by either NATO or Russia in Eastern Europe.

European nations need to learn ASAP that the US ain't superman anymore, a new intermarium would be a perfect solution for all those old soviet satellites that don't want Russia influence.
US aid has driven all its allies into a state of extreme lethargy and they are now just realizing that
war is not "so last century"

 

[draggs]

Enter eminently winnable war against outclassed enemy. Lose thousands, waste equipment, get lost in the woods. Get exasperated. Shell enemy. Take over ruins. Declare victory. Create seas of depressing panel blocks to break the occupied enemy's spirit. Go home to drink vodka. Quintessentially Russian.

This is fake, they don't need to go home to drink vodka. Drink vodka is happening through all stages

 

[Bananadana]

So if Russia actually gets the kill shot moment of their troops raising a Russian flag over Kiev and the Presidential Palace and the Ukies come and take anything the Russians give them for a peace deal, how will the news outlets and Twitter-faggots respond?

"WHITE HELMETS report gas attack from Putins Regime in Kyiv to suppress civilian anti-war demonstrations."

 

[Toothpaste]

I would agree but the Intermarium has always been a Polish project to vassalize everyone around them, which is why it never happened. Central and Eastern European states opted instead to ally with western nations such as France. Also the disputes over territory that still exist and have been frozen for 70 years by the great powers that surround them still exist.

It would have been Polish-led in the same way as NATO is US lead and the EU is German lead, (and in turn, German foreign policy is US lead.),

No small country in Europe is truly independent. Every one of these countries has to take into account the politics of all the surrounding countries. The EU might be seen as the Germans vassalizing all the surrounding countries to their politics, but that would have happened even without the EU.

The best European countries can do is find surrounding powers that have similar politics, traditions and goals and unite into power blocks. This has always been the case and always will be the case. I would still think that a Polish-led alliance is more beneficial to Eastern Europe than a US-led or German-led one.

Edit: wording