Is the West better? - Regarding freedom/human rights/oligarchs

[byuu]

Well let me do your schtick. I move to Russia don't say shit about Putin and go about my day not being forced to worship niggers and trannies. Wow I stayed out of the gulag huge problem bro.

You're forced to live under a president who worships niggers like Putin and can't even criticize him for it though.

 

[gang weeder]

You're forced to live under a president who worships niggers like Putin and can't even criticize him for it though.

That's the current state of affairs as a citizen of the US, correct.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

You don't see any of those based arabs, chinks or ruskies migrating further east all that much.
My method is to look at it alike the Berlin Wall. Wherever the people go to, there it is better, societal rot be ignored.

 

[gang weeder]

You don't see any of those based arabs, chinks or ruskies migrating further east all that much.
My method is to look at it alike the Berlin Wall. Wherever the people go to, there it is better, societal rot be ignored.

That's because there is only a very specific sphere of the world that actively promotes native replacement immigration and eagerly doles out gibs to immigrants. Chinks do migrate "further east" to said sphere when they can.

If I had the prospect of being treated as a super-citizen and showered with free shit by immigrating to a foreign country, I'd consider it pretty seriously.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

That's because there is only a very specific sphere of the world that actively promotes native replacement immigration and eagerly doles out gibs to immigrants. Chinks do migrate "further east" to said sphere when they can.

Coulda fooled me with more accessible healthcare, lesser crime rates, at least a still semi moral natives who won't try to fuck your up for your wallet, job accessibility, moderately safe urban environment and being able to call the local overlord a midget faggot in public.
I swear, every time I hear some dumbass saying how west bad, east good, it's always a sheltered kid who doesn't know shit.

 

[gang weeder]

Coulda fooled me with more accessible healthcare, lesser crime rates, at least a still semi moral natives who won't try to fuck your up for your wallet, job accessibility, moderately safe urban environment and being able to call the local overlord a midget faggot in public.
I swear, every time I hear some dumbass saying how west bad, east good, it's always a sheltered kid who doesn't know shit.

>more accessible healthcare
>job accessibility

Yes, like I said: Gibs. People will migrate to places that give them free shit. Big shocker. It doesn't mean those places are somehow morally superior to other places on the planet, just because they are willing to give immigrants a lot of handouts as a means of replacing their native population.

>lesser crime rates
>semi moral natives who won't try to fuck you up for your wallet
>moderately safe urban environment

You must be talking about Europe, since these certainly don't apply to burgerland. Europe might give you these, if you stay in the white areas, in exchange for even harder cuckery on other fronts (facing possibility of arrest for tweeting wrongthink, extreme COVID mandates, etc).

>being able to call the local overlord a midget faggot in public

Try it and report back to us. At least in America it's true that the government won't directly arrest you. In Europe they might.

 

[Whatevermancer]

Well let me do your schtick. I move to Russia don't say shit about Putin and go about my day not being forced to worship niggers and trannies. Wow I stayed out of the gulag huge problem bro.

What do you think about being forced to worship Chechens instead? They were seriously pushing a law to make it illegal to mention nationalities of criminals on the news, cause those criminals often turned out to be Chechens and people were noticing it.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Yes, like I said: Gibs.

Also work. Who do you think sweats in the bottom tier jobs across Europe ad America? The locals?

You must be talking about Europe, since these certainly don't apply to burgerland. Europe might give you these, if you stay in the white areas, in exchange for even harder cuckery on other fronts (facing possibility of arrest for tweeting wrongthink, extreme COVID mandates, etc).

What's your point? Lawlessness leads to lawlessness? No shit.

Try it and report back to us. At least in America it's true that the government won't directly arrest you. In Europe they might.

In Russia they'll arrest you even if you don't do it these days lol
Your whole rant is the same basic bitch rant that anyone can give. "Man, these are so many things that piss me off about my society." But rare's the one who'll pack up and move somewhere else, especially in some eastern wilderness, instead of trying to fix the shit bothering him.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

I'm surprised that preferring a society which doesn't worship trannies is really such a hot take around here.

Ok have fun worshipping Muslims whitey

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Depends heavily on what station you were born in, but for the general populace it's like the question - which family you'd prefer?
* A family where the dad is selling crack and in huge debt and the mom is constantly on anti-depressents and is fucking the neighbor.
* A poor as fuck abusive family.

On the short term the first one is better, but it's an unstable explosive situation that can turn far worse than the second.

 

[gang weeder]

What do you think about being forced to worship Chechens instead? They were seriously pushing a law to make it illegal to mention nationalities of criminals on the news, cause those criminals often turned out to be Chechens and people were noticing it.

Let's say I accept your premise. I'm pretty sure LGBT shit is illegal in Russia still. So at worst, they're still batting 1 for 2, compared to our 2 for 2. Still an improvement.

Also work. Who do you think sweats in the bottom tier jobs across Europe ad America? The locals?

No, gibs. "Work" might also be attached, but the gibs come first and foremost.

What's your point? Lawlessness leads to lawlessness? No shit.

What was your point bringing up criminality then?

Your whole rant is the same basic bitch rant that anyone can give. "Man, these are so many things that piss me off about my society." But rare's the one who'll pack up and move somewhere else, especially in some eastern wilderness, instead of trying to fix the shit bothering him.

Yes, because as I said, only one sphere of the world actually wants foreigners to come in and replace them. I'm not wanted in places like Russia and China, or even Japan. If the tables were turned and those places were offering me all kinds of benefits to pack up and move there, I'd seriously consider it.

Ok have fun worshipping Muslims whitey

No Muslim ever tried to tell me that trans women are women.

 

[draggs]

If you say that you have less frozen peaches in the West than in China or Russia, sincerely or trollololingly, you're retarded as fuck

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Let's say I accept your premise. I'm pretty sure LGBT shit is illegal in Russia still. So at worst, they're still batting 1 for 2, compared to our 2 for 2. Still an improvement.

That's retarded. There are loads of gay fags in Russia with their own bars, media people and all that shit. Same as everywhere else, even if they're less public about it or coddled by a leftoid government. In the arab world there are places where fucking a young boy is common place and not considered gay. Fags are gonna fag anywhere.

No, gibs. "Work" might also be attached, but the gibs come first and foremost.

Again. Who do you think sweats in the basic bitch service sector? The locals? No, the immigrants. Why? Because the locals are too lazy to work shit jobs. The side of the paid migrant do-nothings is just another sign of lazy government. If they'd not be giving out free shit to immigrants who can't vote, they'd do the same to legals like they do in Cali.
Aslo about gibs, Saudi Arabia is basically a socialist utopia, who why not go there?

What was your point bringing up criminality then?

If I get mugged in Berlin or London, the police will at least take my report and maybe even try to get the mugger. If I get mugged in Islamabad or some shit, the police would make me apologize to the mugger for wasting time.

Yes, because as I said, only one sphere of the world actually wants foreigners to come in and replace them. I'm not wanted in places like Russia and China, or even Japan. If the tables were turned and those places were offering me all kinds of benefits to pack up and move there, I'd seriously consider it.

That's like saying, "But what if Pakistan was a Christian country and China was run by blacks." The retarded western immigration policy is thanks to self hating leftists, still, be the right wing in power, they'd still have to support migration to will in all those low tier jobs and rig the birth rates.

No Muslim ever tried to tell me that trans women are women.

They probably didn't tell you what they'd do to you if they were in power either.

 

[gang weeder]

That's retarded. There are loads of gay fags in Russia with their own bars, media people and all that shit. Same as everywhere else, even if they're less public about it or coddled by a leftoid government. In the arab world there are places where fucking a young boy is common place and not considered gay. Fags are gonna fag anywhere.

Let me get this straight. Your premise is that places where homosexuality is illegal are actually identical to places where it is openly celebrated and promoted by the halls of power. Is that what you're saying? Because in that case, I can use your logic and just say that Russia or China or whatever are actually identical to the US in whatever metrics you care about, despite any contradicting realities you might try to reference. That will be a fun game to play.

 

[Osmosis Jones]

I want to live in poverty, get beaten by Hassan, and be cucked by every man in my neighbourhood because women are property to be traded and shared. I worship cattle, shit on the road, and I enjoy having a reduced quality of life. Golly, I sure am glad sandniggers like raping kids and chinks don't value humanity and the nation of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is so great at quashing faggots and dominating naaaaahtzeeeees. All of this because I can't find a hole for coooooming, I need to live somewhere that women are poor and desperate and gay men can't make me feel horny.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Let me get this straight. Your premise is that places where homosexuality is illegal are actually identical to places where it is openly celebrated and promoted by the halls of power.

No. Those places are actually much better since even the hardcore "family oriented" eastern rats come to live in the fag infested west. What you're doing is equivocating all the lgbtxxx bullshit with the whole core of what the western world is.

Because in that case, I can use your logic and just say that Russia or China or whatever are actually identical to the US in whatever metrics you care about, despite any contradicting realities you might try to reference. That will be a fun game to play.

For some dumbass who talks a lot about fags as being the final boss of the western world, I can't really imagine what you can say about China and Russia, known shitholes outside of its big cities, very much unlike the US whee the big cities are mired by socialist gay shit, the same shit, nix the gay part that ruined both China and Russia.
You can compare apples and oranges because they're sound. But I dare you move to anywhere outside of the western world and say it's a great place to life. And make sure to do it on a salary man's budget since the working salary man is the one worth a shit as an immigrant.

 

[gang weeder]

No. Those places are actually much better since even the hardcore "family oriented" eastern rats come to live in the fag infested west. What you're doing is equivocating all the lgbtxxx bullshit with the whole core of what the western world is.

For some dumbass who talks a lot about fags as being the final boss of the western world, I can't really imagine what you can say about China and Russia, known shitholes outside of its big cities, very much unlike the US whee the big cities are mired by socialist gay shit, the same shit, nix the gay part that ruined both China and Russia.
You can compare apples and oranges because they're sound. But I dare you move to anywhere outside of the western world and say it's a great place to life. And make sure to do it on a salary man's budget since the working salary man is the one worth a shit as an immigrant.

Yea well, you know, the western world has shitholes too, so. Shitholes are gonna shithole everywhere, yo. It's literally all the same. Hurr.

 

[El Gato Grande]

a financial crisis isn't the end of the world when and if it happens. in the long term states, nations and peoples can survive these things just fine.

and demographic crisis is hitting the west just as hard as china, plus the local circumstances make it much worse in the west because here it's coupled with mass immigration which results in straight up ethnic displacement over time.
for the west, low birth rates mean you're gonna be outnumbered and dominated by immigrant populations, the same immigrant populations that are constantly being taught to hate white people for their evilness. as soon as these hostile immigrant populations capture enough state power, this will result in increasingly oppressive state discrimination against whites, eventually culminating in genocide.
compared to that, chinas birth rate problem is a meme. they'll have to figure out a way to handle increasing numbers of retired boomers, at worst this means a lower material standard of living. not great, but continuing industrialisation and technological progress can offset a lot of these problems through increased efficiency and productivity. their problems are not at all comparable to the bleak future awaiting the west.

Demographics in this context is more about the number of young warm bodies you have that can boost your economy by consooming and working.

More young people and population growth entails economic growth, because more young people means more workers, who in turn buy shit as they grow up and put some of the money they make back into the economy via mortgages and investing.

China and the rest of the Asian tigers and practically all of Europe have sharply declining birth rates—not only will their economies stagnate, but they’ll face downward pressure due to the number of boomers cashing out outnumbering new tax paying young people putting money into the system.

America has relatively stable demographics (birth rate is slightly below replacement level at 2, but immigration counters this). Not good, but it stands to do far better than most of its competitors in this area. This is linked to the increased amount of people living in suburbs in the US compared to Asian powers and Europeans, as city dwellers have had lower birth rates across history.

“But America will be less white! Since brown people are poor they will make America poor too! Only le Wyte man has the cognitive skill and cultural sensitivity to contribute the economy by working basic bitch jobs and buying used cars!”

America is a consumption based society, and the demographics issue is solved by warm bodies who do just that. America might have a problem if they were importing illiterate third world sub Saharan Africans who have no concept of national laws like Europe, but all of the reduction of whiteness comes from an increase in Hispanics, who are willing to work even in racist stereotypes (they’re lazy third workers in Mexico yet when they immigrate they out compete whites in the wage slave market). Hispanics also intermarry with whites at high rates and often reach real financial success relative to where they started from; effectively integrating into the American machine instead of trying to suck it dry and burn it down in some sort of brown commie revolution like the left fantasizes about. Its very similar to immigration to America in the past where poor Germans, Irish, and Lithuanians came here, got seethed at by the Anglo descended whites for being dirty immigrants and stealing jobs, before each group became indistinguishable from the other over decades.

 

[Isaac]

Yes, the West is still better. It's always been like this, and it will continue to be like this. The East cannot sustain itself, and will die violently.


This nigger is the only reason why anime exists, and why Japan isn't as bad as the rest of Asia. Relatively speaking, of course.

 

[Smolrolls]

Napoleon Bonaparte said he should have went to America than surrender to the British in his memoirs.

And I think 2 of his brothers went to America after his empire fell.