Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[MidUSA]

Poland gets access to the Black Sea once again.
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Based and Międzymorze pilled

Hey now, hasn't anyone told them "Orc" is a derogatory term for blacks? I demand a retraction for my offended and oft forgotten delicate sensibilities!

I'll have you know Russians can be black too

Let's sanction the country we sent all our jobs to during an inflation crisis so that they can limit our access to goods and materials, all during a time when America is increasingly seen as delusional and schizophrenic in its double standards. Biden era foreign policy will go down in history as the weakest and most pathetic of any time in American history. The retarded millennials running the Department of State think they can treat sovereign nations like when they ask bigtech to cancel an American account they don't like. Absolutely fucking embarrassing.

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Is that confirmed. Big if true.

That looks like it could be a huge blunder. It's one thing trying to bully Russia, when you got the whole world pearlclutching about an invasion. A whole different ballgame trying to push China around without real good excuse. Dragging up years old Uighur stuff is not that.

And China is a vastly better position than Russia to fight back.

It's almost as the US administration want to lose it's domineering position as world hegemon.

 

[Borscht]

Let's sanction the country we sent all our jobs to during an inflation crisis so that they can limit our access to goods and materials, all during a time when America is increasingly seen as delusional and schizophrenic in its double standards. Biden era foreign policy will go down in history as the weakest and most pathetic of any time in American history. The retarded millennials running the Department of State think they can treat sovereign nations like when they ask bigtech to cancel an American account they don't like. Absolutely fucking embarrassing.

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Unsurprisingly, China is biting back.

 

[Tactical Wizard]

@JosephStalin A few weeks ago, Neither you nor I were sanguine about the Ukraine's chances. I'm still of the opinion that they're the underdogs and that Russia will likely slice off another large chunk of their country but how would you rate things now?

 

[Keystone]

They've not advanced in a week.

The much battered enemy continues his cowardly dawdling.

 

[Wyald]

Let's sanction the country we sent all our jobs to during an inflation crisis so that they can limit our access to goods and materials, all during a time when America is increasingly seen as delusional and schizophrenic in its double standards. Biden era foreign policy will go down in history as the weakest and most pathetic of any time in American history. The retarded millennials running the Department of State think they can treat sovereign nations like when they ask bigtech to cancel an American account they don't like. Absolutely fucking embarrassing.

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This shit reminds me of those lovely years when the UK thought it was still relevant in the world stage thinking they could bully other countries around into doing what they want. Shit got even funnier after Brexit, thinking they could rebuild their Empire but soon realized they got boned big time afterwards.
What a time to be alive.

 

[attractive_pneumonia]

Let's not forget to "thank" Nixon for taking the dollar off Gold

Always fun to see people regurgitate this /pol/ tidbit, Nixon had to take the US off the gold standard because of one simple facet of a gold standard. You must have gold reserves to convert dollars to. Kennedy and LBJ spent so much money on Vietnam, NASA and other fun bullshit that it let the amount of dollars grow faster than the gold reserve. France and a few other nations coordinated a strike on the dollar by demanding conversion all at the same time which Nixon couldn't fulfill. He tried renegotiating a lower rate of conversion and it fell through. So the system failed.

I swear, gold bugs are some of the most retarded people on the planet because they never realize that gold is an exceptionally hard thing to acquire and store, with almost every nation in history falling out of some gold standard because of it.

 

[Lone MacReady]

Always fun to see people regurgitate this /pol/ tidbit, Nixon had to take the US off the gold standard because of one simple facet of a gold standard. You must have gold reserves to convert dollars to. Kennedy and LBJ spent so much money on Vietnam, NASA and other fun bullshit that it let the amount of dollars grow faster than the gold reserve. France and a few other nations coordinated a strike on the dollar by demanding conversion all at the same time which Nixon couldn't fulfill. He tried renegotiating a lower rate of conversion and it fell through. So the system failed.

I swear, gold bugs are some of the most retarded people on the planet because they never realize that gold is an exceptionally hard thing to acquire and store, with almost every nation in history falling out of some gold standard because of it.

Then stop waging wars you cannot afford. Every unbacked fiat currency returns to zero, as ours is now.

 

[TurdFondler]

USA thinks it can be the world police and bully any country they want into being their bitches, and for a while, it was like that.

USA used to have the best of everything. Manufacturing & tech being the big ones. Losing their lead in software and microchips was such a limp dicked move it's almost unimaginable. An incredibly educated country with tons of resources reducing itself to the service industry is a powerful self own.

 

[quaawaa]

Always fun to see people regurgitate this /pol/ tidbit, Nixon had to take the US off the gold standard because of one simple facet of a gold standard. You must have gold reserves to convert dollars to. Kennedy and LBJ spent so much money on Vietnam, NASA and other fun bullshit that it let the amount of dollars grow faster than the gold reserve. France and a few other nations coordinated a strike on the dollar by demanding conversion all at the same time which Nixon couldn't fulfill. He tried renegotiating a lower rate of conversion and it fell through. So the system failed.

I swear, gold bugs are some of the most retarded people on the planet because they never realize that gold is an exceptionally hard thing to acquire and store, with almost every nation in history falling out of some gold standard because of it.

You realize that’s an argument for the gold standard and against the Great Society? Social programs have cost us trillions and made every single problem they supposedly were set up to fix immeasurably worse.

 

[MrJokerRager]

DPR/LPR didn't make much sense to me before this war.
Crimea did, because Sevastopol is a warm water port and this allows reinforcement of Syrian Army.
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But now, those oblasts being taken over by Russia...It is obvious.
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Without going to war directly, they forced Ukraine to concentrate a lot of their "hardened" forces in one area. This created an immediate pocket.
By having Belarus and control of the sea they almost entirely encircled Ukraine to begin with.
Where the fuck is this analysis in western media? Can they admit that they knew this would happen?
Can they admit that Russia waited to settle Syria before turning their sights west?
Is this not practical tactics on display, while the west struggles to provide arms and support AFTER the battle has already started?

Sun Tzu said: Whoever is first in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy, will be fresh for the fight; whoever is second in the field and has to hasten to battle will arrive exhausted.

You made one mistake in your post.

You expected Western media to have that kind of analysis to begin with lol.

They are too much used to sucking whichever President's cock in office to bomb some shithole desert sandpit and call it a day or send in the "snake eaters" to "neutralize" some goatherder hiding out with his harem of hoes in the middle of nowhere.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

This shit reminds me of those lovely years when the UK thought it was still relevant in the world stage thinking they could bully other countries around into doing what they want. Shit got even funnier after Brexit, thinking they could rebuild their Empire but soon realized they got boned big time afterwards.
What a time to be alive.

Brexit had nothing to do with rebuilding the British Empire and everything to do with reacting to Globohomo. Even if it was too little too late, the Brits didn't want to open their doors to migrants in 2015.

 

[Wash away the rain]

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Gee, I wonder why Poland hates Russia so much.

I mean, they SAVED them from the Nazis.

They also saved them in record time, rushing to Poland's liberation.

And then, they had fair elections, where Poland joined Soviet sphere through fair and democratic elections.

Sounds like bitch tier cope from someone not even in power that the super freinds are meeting to talk about his successor.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

I put all my victory bets on the pocket technique of Russia from the get go, as long as they could have air superiority. This includes the ability to protect their land forces as well as their own missiles/rocket/artillery.
The reason is because they have done this before.

May 2015
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It's all about bombing C+C, removing AA, creating them pockets, blitzkrieging the flankerinos, and then bracketing fools in their corner.
I have no idea why people thought this would happen in two more weeks!
And yes, I know "Ukraine isn't just a bunch of jihadi goat herders" I've heard it all before.

With the exception of Mariupol they haven't made pockets, that's why. They have Konotop, Sumy, Chernhiv, Pryluky, etc lightly surrounded but not enough to stop hit-and-run forces from going hunting of the logistics train of the parts of 2nd Guards that went racing to Brovary to do... something... lightly hold the eastern side of Kyiv, I guess. These aren't kettles, they are sieves, and nobody is doing a damn thing to reduce them.

Regardless, the point here is to make it costly. Mariupol will eventually fall. We all know it. But it would be trading favorably. One Marine brigade and a battalion of National Guard in exchange for mauling the Army sent to take it. They have already lost two major generals on this little project. Will the 150th Motorized be able to conduct further combat operations after this? Probably not.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

@JosephStalin A few weeks ago, Neither you nor I were sanguine about the Ukraine's chances. I'm still of the opinion that they're the underdogs and that Russia will likely slice off another large chunk of their country but how would you rate things now?

At this point it's probably going to end with a land bridge being created between Crimea and the Donbass region being turned into a puppet state. Don't think the Odessa region will be puppeted since it was vital to pre-war Ukraine's economy, but now will be an outright requirement.

So basically the most entertaining ending, you'd get people saying that Russia totally planned for only taking a couple regions and not overthrowing the Ukrainian government at the cost of completely destroying any relations with North America and Europe plus some of Asia, where they will end up utterly completely dependent on China, and you'd get people acting like this was some supreme victory for Ukraine, despite the fact their economy will be in ruins, many people who became refugees will probably never return home as they won't have a home to return too, plus getting a large chunk of it annexed.

 

[Fougaro]

I've been following his analysis for a while now.

TL;DW key takeaways:

• The Russians' original keikaku was most likely to decapitate Ukraine by going directly for Kevin. Obviously it didn't work.
• Keikaku B meanwhile is most likely destroying the Ukrainian military until they tap out.
• Keikaku means plan.
• The main reason the Russians aren't steamrolling over Ukraine the same way the United States did over Iraq is that the power discrepancy between Russia and Ukraine is so much lower. The entire western world is at this point supporting Ukraine with arms and intel whereas Iraq was on its own with a so-called "military" that was an absolute laughing stock.
• While the United States would have had less difficulties invading Ukraine than the Russians, it would have been difficult nonetheless even for them.
• In an earlier video he suggested that after the ultimatum Mariu/pol/' would last for a few days, two weeks tops.
• If the Russians decide to attack Odessa it will be within weeks, not days. VOR in general doubts that Odessa will be attacked as long as the objectives of the southern front aren't completed.
• The Ukrainians use (mostly vacated) civilian installations for cover. Naturally said installations get literally BTFO'd by the Russians, causing n*rmies to seethe, dilatate and be out of HRT about Russia bad.
• The Ukrainians are, if nothing else, currently winning the propaganda war among brain dead retards in the western hemisphere at least.

That's more or less it.

 

[Borscht]

So basically the most entertaining ending, you'd get people saying that Russia totally planned for only taking a couple regions and not overthrowing the Ukrainian government at the cost of completely destroying any relations with North America and Europe plus some of Asia, where they will end up utterly completely dependent on China, and you'd get people acting like this was some supreme victory for Ukraine, despite the fact their economy will be in ruins, many people who became refugees will probably never return home as they won't have a home to return too, plus getting a large chunk of it annexed.

With the EU (and to a much lesser degree the US) getting hit with the back end of its own sanctions, this leaves China as the sole winner in the textbook "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing" scenario.

 

[TurdFondler]

Legitimately believe the West is in favor of this war going on forever because it destabilizes Russia and Europe. The hohol kids are going to be a lost generation, the ((financiers)) of rebuilding will ensure the country is in debt forever, Russia is losing money and Europe will now have to deal with poor hohol migrants driving down wages for the next 25 years.

Antagonizing China is just pure retardation from a government of corrupt late stage empire boomers

 

[ItCouldBeWorse]

Police in my country (Eastern Euro EU country) have openly threatened people, via official channels, with 10-25 years in prison for "spreading propaganda" and "inciting war" if they disagree with the official narrative. The parliament passed legislation that allows the govt to shut down any website for any reason and with no oversight, and this was used to shut down practically every non-MSM news source. Shitlibs are fine with this lol fuck Russia, we'll make our own Soviet Union.

Slovakia, my favorite puppet state™

 

[AnOminous]

Awesome, do National Center for Missing & Exploited Children next!

In the Ukraine, wouldn't it be National Center for Missing & Exploded Children?

 

[Wash away the rain]

Riddle me this retards, if Ukraine is banning all Ukrainian men from leaving the country because they have to fight for the country does that strip them of civilian status? If a Russian bomb takes out 50 men of fighting age in Kiev, are they still killing civilians?

There seems like a major paradox here of Schroedingers Ukrainian: A person who can pick up a rifle and take shots at Russian troops but then put it down and go back to being an innocent civilian if they get shot at.

Welcome to the wars for the US for the past 60 years