The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

You talk a lot about no arguments, but I've seen zero arguments from you.

I made several in my last response to you, which you ignored in favor of posting a substance-free insult in response.

What's your definition of a person big boi?

Genetically distinct individual of the species homo sapiens. Each individual person comes into physical existence at conception.
 
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Genetically distinct individual of the species homo sapiens. Each individual person comes into physical existence at conception.
Cool, now I can play the disingenuous analogy game too. Are corpses a person? Fingernails? Literal shit? How about twins? How about clones? What if the universe is reformed and incidently someone with identical genetics is born as in the previous universe?

RIP buddy looks like your retarded definition is retarded, so sad.

I made several in my last response to you, which you ignored in favor of posting a substance-free insult in response.
Your arguments are nonsensical
 
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Reasons to be for abortion:
  • Not having to backpaddle your shit when you get an unwanted pregnancy
  • No chance of being lumped in with the retards who are against abortion
  • Not having to pay alimony when your unwanted baby ruins your relationship
Reason to be against abortion:
  • You want to stay a virgin
  • You hate women
  • You're autistic
  • Muh bible
I haven't heard a single coherent argument from the against side. What are you guys going to do when it does get banned? Ban people from having sex? Establish the sex-police? Or are you going to take care of unwanted babies yourself? lmao. YWNGL, stop being assmad that others are getting laid and hire an escort already.
Genetically distinct individual of the species homo sapiens.
TIL identical twins aren't people.
 
I think debating on whether or not a fetus is a human being or can feel things is a pointless one because you can never get anywhere with it.

It's the only factor that ultimately matters in the issue, so it will need to be settled eventually.

I also think if taking a life is not okay no matter what we shouldn’t make exceptions. So with that logic victims of rape should also be forced to have the rapists babies and doctors asking if people would want to abort their babies due to stuff like Down syndrome and other disabilities/medical reasons. If you are pro life and pro birth you need to value all life no matter how they look like and how they are. No exceptions mean no exceptions. Same goes with people who are charged with first degree murder. 🤷🏻‍♀️

That's correct. No exceptions for rape or Downs syndrome.

>Women should have better access to birth control products. Birth control can become excessively expensive (me as an example.) I pay around 200$ with insurance covering some every 3 months not because I want to go out and have intercourse but because I suffer from irregular mensural cycles.

If you can't afford birth control, don't have sex. You shouldn't be having sex outside of a committed relationship, ideally a marriage, anyways. Being a whore is not a human right.

Cool, now I can play the disingenuous analogy game too. Are corpses a person? Fingernails? Literal shit? How about twins? How about clones? What if the universe is reformed and incidently someone with identical genetics is born as in the previous universe?

RIP buddy looks like your retarded definition is retarded, so sad.

Well, I suppose we can add the qualifier of "physically distinct" alongside genetically distinct, to incorporate twins. We already differentiate between corpses and living people with the adjectives of, y'know, living and dead. Corpses are still people and referred to as such--dead people, who have expired. Abortion involves making one out of an otherwise living person.
 
I sure was but I am not anymore

Why do you want to get rid of body autonomy? Do you really want the government mandating you donate your kidneys and blood?
oh, hulk, you know that they only want the government to control FEMALE bodily autonomy. i mean what do you think this is, current year? you think that women are people? tch, what a cuck.
 
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I drank people took advantage of that
You put yourself in a position to be taken advantage of. It's like not wearing a seatbelt and getting launched out of your car when someone rear-ends you-- the other person is responsible for rear-ending you, and you don't deserve to be grievously injured, but you didn't even try to take appropriate self-protection measures.

if I was sober I wouldn't have been in a position like that to begin with
And you wouldn't be not sober if you didn't make yourself not sober to begin with.

yes because every woman aspires to be a mother, never mind that some people just don't want to be a parent.
I tried my best to make it clear for you. Not bothering to break it down even further.

Imagine being the faggot that complains about abortion and child support in the same breath.
"Child support" was never mentioned in what you quoted. "Fund the institution" refers to "my taxpayers going to Planned Parenthood so they can use it to perform abortion but lump the record of the procedure with other prerequisite procedures in order to underreport the number of abortions they do".

well I am sorry I believe the government has no business in what I chose to do to my own body.
Too bad, they do (it was willingly given to them by the people, as usual!).

This is why politicians are beholden to special interest groups. And it's also why we're never getting universal healthcare in the States: if the feds start paying for everyone's healthcare, then they now have an interest in more intimately managing the health of Americans in order to decrease the cost they incur. But not only are Americans fat and unhealthy in various ways, they won't at all stand at all, because they're fat for the feds going that far in order to make them less fat and unhealthy.

This is getting away from the fact that an abortion you procure from a professional isn't "what [you] chose to do to [your] own body".

I think the draft is diffferent from the whole banning a medical procedure due to moral fagging.
Prior to Roe, states were at liberty to restrict abortion as they pleased. The consequence of Roe was NOT that it had to be allowed, but that restrictions had to follow certain guidelines.

The draft is a very direct example of how the law can restrict "bodily autonomy"-- the point being that you don't have that by virtue of the law existing, and that's only halfway Roe's concern (which is why it still allows for abortion restrictions).

If I had a shot for every time you fall back on you were a whore in a dark point in your life so nanana I'd be black out drunk.
If I was sober and not addicted heavily to alkie like a female ethan ralph minus the gunt, then I would've never been a whore
I'm not "falling back" on the fact that you were a whore.

Someone who has never, ever had a relationship with a man that didn't rent out her body for a triple digit lump sum or beat her black and blue for not making enough money renting out her body doesn't know anything about men. Someone who continuously put her own life in danger by deliberately surrounding herself with dangerous men should never talk about the value of life. Someone who readily sold her bodily autonomy isn't qualified to talk about the value of bodily autonomy. You no longer being a prostitute does not mean you magically no longer have those deficiencies.

You're ridiculous-- you can't stop calling me an incel because I don't like baby murder but you killing your body and soul and having no healthy relationships by default is somehow irrelevant.
you have no say in abortions because whoredom, your a man
Your access to abortion as a service has been decided almost entirely by men, some of whom have to have to decide whether they want to listen to women in crafting legislation for or against abortion, and some of whom are performing the actual procedure.

What part of this can you not understand?
PSA INTERNET IS ISN'T REAL LIFE
if your that triggered and mati
It wasn't "triggering", it was "disgusting", like rancid meat.
 
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The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.
― Methodist Pastor David Barnhart

just gonna leave that right here
 
I sure was but I am not anymore
You sure about that? You kind of seem like a fetus to me lol
Why do you want to get rid of body autonomy?
Unless you can detach the fetus and grow it in a jar, away from the psycho bitch who wants to kill it, you won't convince me of manslaughter lol
Do you really want the government mandating you donate your kidneys and blood?
Retard, abortion is literally government mandated legal murder lol
What the fuck are you talking about?
 
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Well? They are. They're dead, but we still refer to them as people, do we not? I don't suddenly stop thinking of my grandfather as a person just because he's been in the ground for a couple decades. He is simply referred to in the past tense, because he is dead.

Anyways. Is this all you had? Flabbergasted confusion? If so, I will rest my case, I suppose.
 
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Well? They are. They're dead, but we still refer to them as people, do we not? I don't suddenly stop thinking of my grandfather as a person just because he's been in the ground for a couple decades. He is simply referred to in the past tense, because he is dead.

Anyways. Is this all you had? Flabbergasted confusion? If so, I will rest my case, I suppose.
Are you esl by chance? That would explain a lot.
 
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Well? They are. They're dead, but we still refer to them as people, do we not? I don't suddenly stop thinking of my grandfather as a person just because he's been in the ground for a couple decades. He is simply referred to in the past tense, because he is dead.
Good job answering your own question.
 
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Damn this thread is kinda crazy, I don't like abortion but to the opposers in this here thread:
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ya'll actin real goofy.
 
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