Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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sooner its over, sooner i get to stop looking at dead bodies.

HATO eat a bag of dicks, my mother was born in haisin, imagine the Chinese pumping Mexico or the Irish republic with weaponry, We hate russian as an entity, but this war is just us dying by the tens of thousands for your whorehouse and launderbanks.

go away.
 
That Brit who got himself killed this week

Separately, tributes were also paid to him on a GoFundMe page set up to raise money for his family by people who said that they had known him through PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds (PUBG), the hit online multiplayer game.

Say what you like about Minecrafters, but at least they aren't usually dumb enough to confuse vidya games with real life
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I had to unwrite so many jokes. I don't like shitting on my Fellow Americans. Especially Marines. Get Some. But Holy Shit.
Traditionally I would have said the same, but our fellow Americans have shown in recent years that they’re anything but Exceptional compared to mud people and serving in the Armed Forces doesn’t get them a pass - particularly when they’re as next-level stupid as these lowlife mercs.
 
Silly question : Why are silencers not used more often in a war?

I mean imagine the Chechens being armed with silenced machine guns or something, they'd be firing thousands of rounds at the enemy without giving away their position.
 
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Silly question : Why are silencers not used more often in a war?
on the battlefield everything is chaotic and loud as fuck. explosions and gunshots and plane/chopper noises are all over the place, so giving away your position with gunfire noise generally isn't a concern unless you are doing some spec ops recon sniper shit, and the vast majority of soldiers don't.
 
Ukrainian troops are surrounded near Izyum

According to military correspondent Poddubny, the combined unit of the 1st brigade of the National Guard and the Armed Forces of Ukraine is pressed against the Oskol reservoir. Around 1,000 fighters were surrounded.

Now Russian artillery is grinding them
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Remember what I said about the taking of Kremmina and Zarichne being bad news for anyone attempting to harass the Russian advance from Pisky-Radkisvky?

As we all know, there are no reliable sources in war so take it with a grain of salt, but the circles I drew on Paint should give you an idea of where it's happening if it's true. If the war correspondent is telling the absolute 100% truth and isn't wrong about where they are, then the surrounded UAF troops should be in the black circle. If LiveUAMaps is telling the absolute 100% truth, then it could be in the blue circle.

I'm leaning towards the war correspondent - mostly because LiveUAMaps is inherently biased (Ukrainian site owners) and can only work with the information that reaches them in any case. Anyways, the Ukrainians should really be avoiding having this happen to their best troops in their best defended positions. If the Russians make it past Donbas, the war gets easier for them - not harder, in my opinion anyway, and depending on casualties on both sides.



Edit: More and more confirmation of this event is coming out.

under Izyum, the formations of the Kiev regime have another zrada (the feeling of betrayal). The militants of the AFU (consolidated BTGr of the 1st brigade of the National Guard and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine) were surrounded, pressed against the Oskol reservoir, which is located east of Izyum.

On April 20, the General Staff assigned the task to the command of the 1st brigade to begin offensive operations. BTGr had to step on Izyum. It is clear to any competent officer that the idea is suicidal. But for the sake of PR in Kiev, they are ready for any sacrifice. The lads went on the attack, but quickly got in the face and were blocked on three sides by Russian troops, and on one side by water. There are 1000 people in the environment now. Naturally, the boys asked for help. In a secret telegram that came from the command, it was written: "Nikolayirina Kharitonulyanayana." (whaty the fuck does this mean?) The General Staff refused to organize a breakthrough and deblockade. Now the Russian artillery is methodically grinding BTGr.

Such things, lads.
 
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If accurate, it would be a really stupid design flaw, which isn't surprising. But the jest of its saying is accurate, that storing ammo inside the turret is a bad move.
I'm not so sure I'd call it a "stupid design flaw," considering it's been in multiple generations of soviet tanks and beyond, and these are generations of soviet tanks that have caused western designers and theorists to shit themselves and build counters to them. I'd call it more a design priority, as it's definitely something with a severe trade off against crew safety.
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This is a picture of the ammunition carousel below the autoloader, which is directly below the turret, that is rather similar across Russian tanks. It's accurate to say that it's extremely dangeous in the event of a penetration (and sometimes outside of it- the T-64's early autoloader was infamous for its poor ergonomics resulting in it sometimes trying to stuff the gunner into the breach rather than a shell)- slavshit tanks have thrown their turrets for decades, but there's other factors to consider, such as that Russian tanks are actually quite a bit smaller than Western tanks, and thus harder targets, and that the ammunition has to be arranged that way for their autoloaders to work, which is the main component of why they have such a smaller profile.
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Seriously Russian tanks are fucking tiny, it was an active part of the design process to make it so they were smaller and lighter while having a similar or better level of armament and protection, so that they can utilize infrastructure heavier western tanks cannot.

Compare the ammunition stowage on a T-72/T-90 to that of, say, an M1 Abrams. You might have noticed from the earlier picture that the M1 has a far larger turret than the T-72. That's because it stores its main gun ammunition in a bustle with blowout panels to redirect any ammunition explosion upwards, with an armored door between the crew compartment and ammunition storage. This makes it a far safer tank in the event of it being hit, suffice it to say, but the tradeoff is that you have a bigger target because the whole damn thing is bigger. The Leclerc tank also has its ammunition storage in a rear turret bustle, but has an autoloader instead of a manual loader.
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Of relevant note is the Leopard 2's ammunition storage- while there is a standard rear turret bustle as is normal for western tanks, extra shells have room for stowage in the front and center of the hull. This resulted in rather ugly surprises when the Turks used theirs against Kurds equipped with modern anti-tank missiles.
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This is all rather a moot point if one considers that the standard situation for any tank is to not suffer a penetrating hit, for its armor to do its job- so that it really couldn't matter less where the ammunition is because it's not supposed to blow the fuck up and send a different part of your body to fifty different parts of the country. Thus, priority in design would be if the ammunition is placed in a way as to be conducive to getting it in the cannon and firing as quickly as possible, rather than planning for it to be hit and exploding rendering the vehicle combat incapable anyways. Of course, armor protection is just not good enough against weapons like Javelins and NLAWS- they're top attack weapons, hence the prevalence of penetrating hits to the center mass of the tank, resulting in turret tossing. That's a discussion for another time, but to keep it brief- I think the most educational effect this war will have on armor technology is that not having hard-kill active protection is no longer an option against any military with modern top-attack capable anti-tank equipment.

TL;DR the Russians care more about slinging shells than not slinging crew so it's not of concern to them.
 
And what glowop would help at this point?
I don't know, have snipers kill both protesters and police officers to make the violence spiral out of control and put Kiev under martial law to prevent a coup?

I can throw it back at you. Why did Ukrainian forces did not leave DPR territory of Debaltseve after signing the agreement?(Should have demarcated it better before the signing.)
The fuck does that mean? As mentioned earlier in the thread, the Minsk agreements did not give DPR sovereign nation status.
You confuse "giving gibs" with openly hostile actions. What does it cost Ukraine to not build a dam that blocks flow of water to Crimea? Wars started over less than this. And it is also funny to me that Ukraine claims legal possession of Crimea, yet they don't mind cutting drinkable water to all it's citizens for being "occupied" by Russia. True humanitarians those Ukrainians are.
Yeah, if you send troops to seize control of territory, that's an hostile action.
It's not about humanitarianism, you can't be an absolute asshole to your neighbors and expect them to do you favors.
And what do you propose? Give Ukraine nukes and build NATO bases? This was one of the reasons why this war started to begin with.
Starting a war over the fact that in the future a neighboring nation might become impossible to invade just makes the Russian state look neurotic.
why should Russia even negotiate, if hostile bases and nuclear silos would be there anyway after the peace? Might as well go full scorched-earth and level Ukraine to the ground if it's going to become a NATO hub after the war ends.
Can you do me a favor and look up how many NATO members actually have nuclear silos? How many exist in the Baltic states? How many will be built in Finland once they join?
Can you do me another favor and actually explain what fucking difference does it make to have nuclear silos in Ukraine when missiles coming over the Arctic, bombers and submarines are more than enough for mutually assured destruction and launching from Ukrainian territory doesn't add to first strike capabilities in any way?
 
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sooner its over, sooner i get to stop looking at dead bodies.

HATO eat a bag of dicks, my mother was born in haisin, imagine the Chinese pumping Mexico or the Irish republic with weaponry, We hate russian as an entity, but this war is just us dying by the tens of thousands for your whorehouse and launderbanks.

go away.

We don't need China to arm Mexico. We do a good enough job of that on our own. Cartels are better equipped than the Mexican military and could overthrow them easily if they wanted to do so. Most of that weaponry & hardware can be traced directly back to the DEA and ATF.
 
Silly question : Why are silencers not used more often in a war?

I mean imagine the Chechens being armed with silenced machine guns or something, they'd be firing thousands of rounds at the enemy without giving away their position.
They increase the length of the weapon when everyone is trying to make them shorter to negotiate tight indoors locations and entering/exiting vehicles, negatively impact the weight balance by shifting the center of mass forward, but worst of all they are a relatively delicate piece of equipment that wears out faster than the rest of the rifle due to the hot gasses eroding away the baffles.
The more complex a design the harder it is to clean. Often the trapping of gasses inside the can leads to the pressure pulse sent into the gas port to carry more energy and drive the weapon harder (higher bolt velocity = more recoil and parts wear) so unless the rifle was designed to have a suppressed setting in the gas system the use of the silencer can take its toll on the weapons being issued.
It is possible that in the near future we will start to see standard issue rifles designed to be used with suppressors from the start, especially if we start upping the pressure like the US is doing with 6.8x51mm. Mitigating blast will be a concern.
 
"A strange game, the only winning move is not to play." -- Joshua
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky rode to power on pledges to clean up the Eastern European country, but the Pandora Papers reveal he and his close circle were the beneficiaries of a network of offshore companies, including some that owned expensive London property.

Key Findings​

  • Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his partners in comedy production owned a network of offshore companies related to their business based in the British Virgin Islands, Cyprus, and Belize.
  • Zelensky’s current chief aide, Serhiy Shefir, as well as the head of the country’s Security Service, were part of the offshore network.
  • Offshore companies were used by Shefir and another business partner to buy pricey London real estate.
  • Around the time of his 2019 election, Zelensky handed his shares in a key offshore company over to Shefir, but the two appear to have made an arrangement for Zelensky’s family to continue receiving money from the offshore.

from Pandora Papers Reveal Offshore Holdings of Ukrainian President and his Inner Circle

I suspect if Zelenskyy has to form a government in exile, his new address will be in one of the nicer parts of London. Well, he has a lot of friends in the British government, so that should work out for him.
 
Cubans, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, and other exiled former Russia-bloc countries can probably skew that number
Those aren't a huge part of the Hispanic population in the US, its Mexican-Central American-Caribbean (Dominicans). Only Cubans approach the numbers of the ones I mentioned and are concentrated in Florida and some parts of the NE. I doubt whoever was doing the polling bothered to include a broad spectrum of Hispanics, because most don't. It's very hard to gauge Hispanics in the US because they can be of any race, religion and ethnicity but people try anyway. A white Cuban may have a very different opinion than a Nahuatl speaking Mexican, and a black Dominican a wholly different one altogether, while the ethnic Chinese guy from Guatemala blows it off as he drives to his job at the place run by the Jew from Argentina who's yelling at his Arab partner for calling his family in Uruguay because he's not taking the order the Japanese lady from Peru is complaining about.

Ignore it.
 
Has anyone pointed out that the real battle here is a united war against nationalism of all shapes and sizes, well accept perhaps State nationalism which is in fact the enemy of the historic meaning and definition of a nation. And no I'm not talking about National Socialism. Every major power is fighting this united war against the different peoples (nations) of the earth. This whole Russia vs the USA is just as real as Democrat vs Republican. The so called Russian state and the so called Ukrainian state are both opposed to the nations that historically ruled those lands.
 
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