Crime Gunman at a Texas elementary school kills 19 students and two adults before being fatally shot, officials say - yeehaw

(CNN)A suspect is in custody after a shooting incident at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, left at least two dead and injured 14 people, including students, authorities said.

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District (UCISD) posted about an "active shooter" at Robb Elementary at 12:17 p.m. local time and said law enforcement was on site.

The suspect was taken into custody as of 1:06 p.m. local time, according to the Uvalde Police Department.
Two have died after the shooting at Robb Elementary School, a spokesperson from Uvalde Memorial Hospital told CNN.

The hospital received 13 children at their facility who were being treated for varying injuries, he said. Two children were transported to San Antonio and another is pending transfer, Tom Nordwick said.

Additionally, two patients were dead on arrival, he said. Nordwick was not sure of the ages of the two deceased. A man in his 40s was also being treated there, he said.

Nordwick did not have conditions on any of the victims.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 
It's an elementary school. There's not a lot of violence that happens with children that you would need armed guards for typically. I can't tell if you're suggesting that in your country that grade schools are heavily protected or that you're just projecting what you think America should be like.
Like I said: small children should be protected more than politicians, for children are the future. Unauthorized or unknown individuals who show up at a school uninvited should be met like the Camo Dudes at Area 51 meet trespassers.

"But some poor MAP will have their feewings hurt!"

Tough shit.
 
The schools in the inner city areas have tons of metal detectors and police that prevent kids from stabbing or shooting each other over little arguments or gang activity but mass shootings only require a little social engineering. Police and teachers are not on the lookout for mass shooters either and thats assuming the school/police do their job in the first place. Even if they do suspect something, the likelihood of anything happening is nil because public school. Nicholas Cruz is legitimately retarded with fetal alcohol syndrome and he was still able to pull his shooting off.
Most schools in urban neighborhoods don't have metal detectors and police on staff. Schools barely have funding for art programs, they don't have money for that nonsense. At most, they request parents to buy clear bags and bulletproof shield inserts for backpacks. Pathetic.

The only schools able to secure funding for the metal detector meme are schools in rich neighborhoods...that aren't getting shootings.
 
Because it's something very easy to troll about. Half of the Euro's in here don't give a shit about rights, hell a quarter are here to stir shit up about how A&H should be deleted because Boomers congregate here. Mocking deeply held beliefs is one of the best ways to troll.
Yes, most leftists here are self aware. But it is important to note the typical average Twitter leftist likewise does not have the ability to feel emotion. At best, they get a cunning satisfaction from what they perceive as Machiavellian maneuvering. Remember how little they emoted and grieved for the victims of Wakeusha, or any other random black nationalist violence. It’s not that they have selective outrage, it’s that their brains are miswired and they have lost the ability to feel emotion completely. Richard Blumenthal is case in point on this.

This is important to understand because the average person, especially the average conservative still has not picked up on this, so dealing with this is going to be quite challenging.
 
Mental asylums

1. A LOT OF THESE GUYS are mental health cases.
2. A LOT OF THESE GUYS are under the legal responsibility of a supervising adult....who is almost never held responsible.
3. A LOT OF THESE GUYS tell law enforcement (repeatedly) they are going to hurt some one.
4. A LOT OF THESE GUYS do lesser violence to people and are excused by law enforcement....because stopping those lesser crimes doesn't help their career metrics
5. THE MEDIA glories these guys.
6. THEY FEEL POWERLESS. And after shooting up a school/church/etc they feel like they have power. Like they matter.
7. A LOT OF THESE GUYS often lose a key caregiver before their violence escalates

Here are 7 vectors we should work on
 
Maybe. Like America's cultural malaise churning out psychos. never said guns are 100% to blame
There's roughly 400 million people in America, most of them are fine. Unfortunately, when you have that many people in a gigantic nation that's kinda like a federation of 50 separate countries, each with their own unique culture and makeup, and with all valuing personal responsibility and liberty, having the right to own guns enshrined in their Constitution, occasionally you'll get a few antisocial psychopaths doing horrible, evil things like this.

It sucks and I feel for anyone who lost a child to a complete scumbag like this, but it's not a fear 99% of the population will ever have to experience in their lifetime. And what's the alternative? For the government to forcibly confiscate every single legally owned gun? People who own guns legally aren't responsible for stuff like this, and it would curb nothing because there would still be all the guns owned illegally. Not to mention, having 2 gigantic borders where guns could be smuggled into the country for anyone willing to take the risk.

Drugs are illegal and profitable, they manage to make it in to the country every day. If guns became this illegal, profitable trade, they'd find a way in as well.

Where did you say you're from? Australia? Whats Australia got, maybe 20 million people? Just the state of Texas has a larger population than your entire country. It's a lot easier for a government to confiscate guns from an island nation where they have a lot more control over what enters the country, from such a small population than it ever would be to do anything like that in even a small portion of the humongous United States. Plus, did Australia have gun ownership as part of their Constitution? Idk, but I'm guessing it didn't. It's not even remotely comparable to anything that could be done in the United States to whatever was done in your small country, locked off by the ocean, with such a low population.

And besides, even with horrible things like this happening once in awhile (but still way too much lately), it still doesn't effect many people in the grand scheme of things. It sucks, but it's one of the consequences of living in such a large, populous nation who's entire existence is committed to the personal liberties of its citizens. And I think when push comes to shove, most people would rather the populace be armed in the face of a tyrannical power taking over, to keep those government bitches on their toes.
 
1. A LOT OF THESE GUYS are mental health cases.
2. A LOT OF THESE GUYS are under the legal responsibility of a supervising adult....who is almost never held responsible.
3. A LOT OF THESE GUYS tell law enforcement (repeatedly) they are going to hurt some one.
4. A LOT OF THESE GUYS do lesser violence to people and are excused by law enforcement....because stopping those lesser crimes doesn't help their career metrics
5. THE MEDIA glories these guys.
6. THEY FEEL POWERLESS. And after shooting up a school/church/etc they feel like they have power. Like they matter.
7. A LOT OF THESE GUYS often lose a key caregiver before their violence escalates

Here are 7 vectors we should work on
I mean usually the legal adult is held responsible sort of. After their fucked up kid puts a bullet through their enabling heads
 
mass shooting debates are truly pointless and these threads prove it
The media misrepresents how many people die from these horrifying events such as school shootings by bringing up all gun-releated death stats, which is in the tens of thousands, instead of around 702 (with 2844 injuries) and 22 from school shootings, stated in that same article
 
Most schools in urban neighborhoods don't have metal detectors and police on staff. Schools barely have funding for art programs, they don't have money for that nonsense. At most, they request parents to buy clear bags and bulletproof shield inserts for backpacks. Pathetic.

The only schools able to secure funding for the metal detector meme are schools in rich neighborhoods...that aren't getting shootings.
I can tell you from personal knowledge of shitty neighborhoods that this isn't true where I live. All of the schools that I personally know have metal detectors are in ghettos/slums. Not saying you're wrong, it's just not the case where I'm from.
 
i can’t think of any policy that isn’t egregious that could stop it

Monitoring? Gun bans? Security & barbed wire?

How about people learn a bit about their neighbors & if the kid is clearly a hell spawn, report him to the authorities so he is red flagged & can’t get weapons? Idk

Not all tragedies are best prevented by policy. Sometimes it takes community & culture.

Could change my mind tho
This.

That incel shit bag is another fucking devil like Adam Lanza, Choi Seung Hoi, Nicolas Cruz, and essentially every other school shooter is.

People who should have been involuntarily committed to a mental asylum years ago but nooo so dumb fuck bleeding heart just can't conceptualize the need for certain people to be locked in a small room for life. I legitimately know/knew a turbocuck who ACTUALLY thought serial killers and the like could be reformed and shouldn't spend too long on prison.... Fucking hell he was a fucking retard.
 
Yes prohibition worked
Prohibition of alcohol only exacerbated crime related to it, and did nothing to curtail people wanting to buy and consume alcohol, at least right up until they were getting robbed by the goons they went to buy alcohol from or just getting killed by them outright. Please tell me more about how we need to prohibit guns and how it'll magically make everyone safer.
 
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