Crime Gunman at a Texas elementary school kills 19 students and two adults before being fatally shot, officials say - yeehaw

(CNN)A suspect is in custody after a shooting incident at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, left at least two dead and injured 14 people, including students, authorities said.

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District (UCISD) posted about an "active shooter" at Robb Elementary at 12:17 p.m. local time and said law enforcement was on site.

The suspect was taken into custody as of 1:06 p.m. local time, according to the Uvalde Police Department.
Two have died after the shooting at Robb Elementary School, a spokesperson from Uvalde Memorial Hospital told CNN.

The hospital received 13 children at their facility who were being treated for varying injuries, he said. Two children were transported to San Antonio and another is pending transfer, Tom Nordwick said.

Additionally, two patients were dead on arrival, he said. Nordwick was not sure of the ages of the two deceased. A man in his 40s was also being treated there, he said.

Nordwick did not have conditions on any of the victims.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/24/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting/index.html

 

[JambledUpWords]

Some woman linking the gun debate to abortion and saying that you can’t be pro-gun and pro-life

 

[GreenHell]

Say what you will, but as far as political responses go, Trump at least was more tactful than Obama and Beto:
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One of the few intelligent things the man has said. A bit hypocritical, but less tone deaf than Obama.

 

[ZehnBoat]

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Some woman linking the gun debate to abortion and saying that you can’t be pro-gun and pro-life

you can own a gun, use it, and not kill anyone with it
also, you can use a gun to prevent people from dying

 

[Meat Target]

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Some woman linking the gun debate to abortion and saying that you can’t be pro-gun and pro-life

Emotional blackmail from heathens doesn't work on me.

 

[Queenfaggo]

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Some woman linking the gun debate to abortion and saying that you can’t be pro-gun and pro-life

If this beaner doesn't like the high number of guns in America she's free to fuck off back to Mexico.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

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Some woman linking the gun debate to abortion and saying that you can’t be pro-gun and pro-life

The best part is this is the same kind of fucking moron who thinks you can defend yourself with a gun without killing anyone just by "shooting them in the leg!"

 

[Just_Somebody]

Seeing people compare Beta O'Rourke to Tank Man from Tiananmen Square is actually disgusting. Like, in what universe did Beta even compare to Tank Man?

 

[Standardized Profile]

Current federal law makes it a crime to carry a gun into a school zone,

School zones are huge and they're 24/7. I committed a felony by taking out the trash at night because there's a school somewhere around. I can't see it, and there are no students or teachers there in the middle of the night, but it's still a school zone. I didn't intend to enter the school zone, I was locked out and had to step into the alley to walk to another door, but it was still a felony. It's an insane law.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Seeing people compare Beta O'Rourke to Tank Man from Tiananmen Square is actually disgusting. Like, in what universe did Beta even compare to Tank Man?

Abbott would’ve obviously shot Beta like what happened at Tianamen Square. Beta obviously shook Abbott to his core with his powerful words, so he was able to be saved, but just barely. He is now being persecuted by bigots for his bravery.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

...like i said, hesitant leadership, older tactics, an unwillingness to make a mistake in a very bad situation can lead to paralysis as "someone else" with authority is supposed to take charge and actually be the incident commander. if things go badly due to a bad call, the rank and file don't want to be responsible for actions that would get kids killed.

in this case it seemed hardly anyone responding on site had the consequences from inaction in mind and many if not all also fell back on prior outdated training as well, which is what happens to many people that are infrequently exposed to very stressful situations (that and/or panic), possibly with poor assumptions (was or wasn't there an armed or unarmed resource officer inside?).

is any of that an excuse? maybe. but that's what i see based on my own experience and after talking with other people that have what i would consider relevant experience to make a reasonably informed opinion on the topic....

I can understand how all of those things can contribute to the problem- but it doesn't much help the public perception of law enforcement- or help the kids who were bleeding out in there. "Officers" are supposed to think a bit more independently than, say, privates in a military.

It does sound like the incident commander may be the one who ends up taking the blame for this in the end. He probably doesn't deserve all of it. (EDIT: The IC was the chief so fuck him, buck doesn't stop higher than that)

I am happy to spread that blame up to the leadership. Maybe particular TKE has colored my opinion because it has been entirely clear what is expected in this exact situation, even for low-speed high drag folks (who don't get tactical swag)- speed. And this seemed to be stressed in the federal grant-provided training that was meant to make sure even budget-stressed departments could afford to train under new protocols. Speaking of which,

I don't know. Maybe this is a regional thing but LE around me are... confused about how this has happened again.

Anyway, might as well have some memes too. This seemed appropriate since I haven't seen it posted here yet. I hope there's a bunch of punisher stickers in the department parking lot.

 

[Oxous]

As if the police hadn't been embarassing enough...

 

[Peanut_Squash]

As if the police hadn't been embarassing enough...
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The smartest thing they’ve done yet. Someone will go after them.

 

[Niggernerd]

What the fuck do you want us to do?

You're likely talking to a person who lives in a land that lets refugees rape their women and children or cucked out of owning guns.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Needing unfettered access to a gun that can fire multiple rounds per second is the most small dicked and retarded way to exercise one's Second Amendment rights. What "well regulated Militia" are you a part of? You're not going to use an AR to fight back against a tyrannical government. Insurrectionist inbreds had their only real chance to exercise this during the Civil War and almost did again on Jan 6th, yet they still ultimately fumble. Conservatives will never shut the fuck up about a singular sentence in the constitution it seems they have never bothered to actually read. Admit you just want to sperg out about guns and spend your measly paycheck consuming more ultimately useless shit. Thats the real American patriotism, not the vague connection to the BOR.

Also the media does not shut the fuck up about crime rates in majority Black and Hispanic American cities, libs just do it in a way that's like "omg poor noble darkies!" so their pointless hyper-fixation is woke instead.

A. You shouldn't even be commenting on this. If you can't even understand the difference between semi-automatic ie self loading, and automatic weapons ie holding down the trigger fires many bullets.

B. Why do you make the little dick argument. Are you that hyper fearful of guns that you have to resort to bad 90s cliches about gun owners.

C. Well regulated militia - That means the right to train, the right to Shoot guns with your buddies on the weekend. I don't know if you know this but that right is heavily infringed upon.

Do you have any legitimate points or do you want to sperg out like HHH.

 

[Hennessy Williams]

My God, you are a fucking moron. Nobody can convince you about ARs for the same reason nobody can convince you that the Einstein Field Equations admit solutions containing closed timelike curves. Because you don't understand what any of it even fucking means.

Congratulations on getting that far. I was done at "gun that can fire mUltiPle RounDs pEr seCOnd." Crazy, unnecessary shit like those warfighting assault revolvers.

Alright I’ll admit I made a fucky wucky on the stats. The theoretical cycling rate is 180 per minute and the use average is 45. Would not be surprised if the shooter was firing at a higher rate than average due to his targets being a huddled group of defenseless 10 year olds. Still fail to see how banning a semi AR with a capacity for even 45 rounds a minute is infringing on your civil liberties.

 

[SuperConglomerateWhale]

Not where I live. Many elementary schools I’ve seen around my area have been remodeled to make it harder for kids to exit the school. They can escape a fire easily because the playground would be large enough to fit the student body, but escaping an active shooter would be a much different scenario in that case. Schools where I live have a lot of that prison aesthetic with all the fencing. It’s good for kids not escaping or ditching school easily, but bad for an active shooter scenario.

Again, you need to adapt to the current climate around public schools being easy targets. I don't disagree on trying to stop kids from walking off, but more definitely needs to be done in terms of protection because we have countless pieces of evidence going back years and years showing that school districts and police forces are inept at their job.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Alright I’ll admit I made a fucky wucky on the stats. The theoretical cycling rate is 180 per minute and the use average is 45. Would not be surprised if the shooter was firing at a higher rate than average due to his targets being a huddled group of defenseless 10 year olds. Still fail to see how banning a semi AR with a capacity for even 45 rounds a minute is infringing on your civil liberties.

That's the same line that was said in 1986.

Then in 1994.

So, you're back again with another round "I don't see how this tiny little ban right here is infringing, just meet me halfway." compromise language.

Well, here's the 2022 halfway compromise.

You eat a bag of dicks.

I buy a 1,000 round magazine full of teflon coated steel jacketed steel cored fragmenting hollowpoints, 2 more rifles, and a box a fucking grenades.

You sit in the corner with your bag of dicks.

I buy what I fucking want.

Faggot.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Again, you need to adapt to the current climate around public schools being easy targets. I don't disagree on trying to stop kids from walking off, but more definitely needs to be done in terms of protection because we have countless pieces of evidence going back years and years showing that school districts and police forces are inept at their job.

I already am? I’m just saying that this problem isn’t as easily solvable because of the way things are done now. If it were up to me, there would only be a single port of entry and armed security at all schools, but that depends on the district you’re in too. Not all school districts will agree to that. I think you’re being purposefully obtuse and not even trying to understand why lockdowns tend to be the norm. The floor plan of some schools really doesn’t do anyone favors with active shooters.

 

[Manah]

Bernie proving he isn’t for the working class yet again by wishing to take away one of the only working class defenses
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Considering firearms are only succesfully used in self defence in less than 1% of cases and having a gun on you is more likely to result in your death in a mugging, you'll have to be more specific.

Spoiler: Cope

and seethe

 

[JambledUpWords]

Considering firearms are only succesfully used in self defence in less than 1% of cases and having a gun on you is more likely to result in your death in a mugging, you'll have to be more specific.

Spoiler: Cope

and seethe

Try harder Eurocuck. A firearm is also what killed the shooter, by a border patrol agent no less.