Selecting a Despot for the Autism Thunderdome

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

No, Stoneheart is a russaboo who shits up the Ukraine war news thread regularly.

He also has some just generally retarded takes. However, occasionally he does say something intelligent, informative, or funny. I would not suggest he mod though. I dunno who I would let mod exactly. I have some people in mind, but this isn't a democracy here and it isn't up for a vote.

 

[mold]

I believe the solution to the A&N problem

which is exactly what?

a lot of people are being very vocal that they think sperging is the problem, while a small minority enjoys sperging, and an even smaller minority (possibly of one, myself) is copping to sperging.

But I don't think sperging is actually a problem for the site? It doesn't cause trouble, it's easy to ignore, and it doesn't drive users away.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that the problems are

1) users making posts that draw law enforcement attention

2) users making modwork by tattling

A lot of the very complicated solutions here are really unworkable but even more importantly they're solutions to the problem of sperging. It's really hard to stop sperging without reducing entertaining content; actually I don't even think it's possible.

But solving the problems of fedposting and tattling is easier - just ban people. Yeah they'll make alts and come back but that's the price of running a current events forum where people are allowed to say the nword.

Another thing - a lot of people are asking why Null doesn't just shut down the board when he told you in the OP. He wants to be able to discuss current events on his own website.

 

[AnOminous]

HK thread that line well of having and expressing his own opinions, but not letting that get in the way of moderation. I liked him, but I wouldn't bank on getting another of him.

And the problem is, sort of like @Stoneheart as an example of a potential mod, is that these people are often better as posters than moderators, not because they'd make bad mods but because modding is an absolute shit thing to do, and mostly completely unenjoyable. I can't imagine what kind of weirdo would actually enjoy it. Actually I can, just look at the reddit thread.

And on top of that even if you did enjoy it without being some weird power tripping faggot, much of the community would still constantly shit on you because we're almost all from "fuck jannies fuck trannies" zones of the Internet. There is no such thing as "one of the good ones" in a large swath of this demographic.

No, Stoneheart is a russaboo who shits up the Ukraine war news thread regularly.

Is it even possible to shit up that thread? It's shitting on top of Shit Mountain.

He's cordial, it's entirely possible to have a sensible discussion with him without it immediately degenerating into mutual threats, and has an actual sense of humor.

An A&N mod, especially a despot, would need all that. And I think nool really does need to appoint some sort of absolute monarch to the subforum and given power to gas chamber anyone shitting up the place beyond its purpose as a public outhouse.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

Not really, because the uncivilized savages we are recklessly importing (or were before the current freeze on new retard immigration) do not respect that at all and just relentlessly shit up any thread that isn't completely in agreement with their deranged bullshit.

Ah, in that case, I think a few threadbans are in order with some helpful DMs to direct the spergier users to either their home team containment thread (if they want a circle jerk) or one of the Jerry Springer trashfire threads (if they want a slapfight).

It shouldn't be too much work - it just takes a mod who understands that each team will want certain threads without the other side relentlessly shitting it up.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Also, the amount of people that literally do not read the article content and just rage post based on the title is wild. Dunno how to fix that though

>implying they read the title

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

I would agree if I wasn't legitimately batshit insane w/a bunch of stuff IRL I'm currently dealing with, lol

like all of my dreams it's just too beautiful to come true.

 

[Getting tard comed]

I'll add this (I don't want to be the despot. No one would want me and I don't have the time or interest in being head janny) even though this probably isn't what you want Null I think the best way to handle the Thunderdome is as follows.

Users cannot post threads or replies in the Thunderdome for the first month they register.

Users have to acknowledge the understand and accept that the Thunderdome is a place for discussion, shitposting, and slap fights. You engage at your own risk.

Threats and calls to violence are agaisnt the rules since they threaten the site. Any posts like that that explicitly violate US law(get fukt eurocucks XD) will be removed and the poster gets his posting privileges removed in Thinderdome for (x) amount of time following their second offense.

Bring all stickers back. It will decrease the amount of slapfoght posts if people can mark something dumb and move on. People accept the acknowledge and accept the risk involved in engaging in the Thunderdome.


Any complaints about stickers in A&H will be ignored by the mods. If someone leaves A&H to sticker stalk someone who hurt their fee fees in A&H at their first offense the stalker gets suspended for two weeks. Second offense they are banned from the site.


I'm my view A&H is a containment zone. Trying to change it into anything else is like creating the 'Soviet Man'. A&H is a symptom of what's going on in the world and there's no way of adjusting that without fundamentally changing what it's purpose is.

 

[mold]

Pedophiles have infiltrated anti-censorship bullshit. It's not so cut and dry.

yes it is

pedophilia is harmful, you're harming children if you're a pedophile just by existing. pedophiles should fear discovery.

any pedo apologism is criminal

 

[Lurker]

People just need to understand that a proper thunderdome despot must rule with an iron fist and ban whoever they want whenever they want with no explanation as to why.

It is the only way.

 

[Marissa Moira]

yes it is

pedophilia is harmful, you're harming children if you're a pedophile just by existing. pedophiles should fear discovery.

any pedo apologism is criminal

No what I'm saying they've hijacked anti-censorship movements because they want their pictures and traced images of kids to not land them in jail.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

But solving the problems of fedposting and tattling is easier - just ban people. Yeah they'll make alts and come back but that's the price of running a current events forum where people are allowed to say the nword.

Meh, IMO that's like trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer. Tattle tells can be told to fuck off and ignored. Fedposters can be given limited threadbans with some helpful DMs to help them direct those sorts of posts to private discord servers.

Banning someone is kinda a nuclear option and should be avoided.

 

[Kickster]

Literally 1984

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

I'll add this (I don't want to be the despot. No one would want me and I don't have the time or interest in being head janny) even though this probably isn't what you want Null I think the best way to handle the Thunderdome is as follows.

Users cannot post threads or replies in the Thunderdome for the first month they register.

Users have to acknowledge the understand and accept that the Thunderdome is a place for discussion, shitposting, and slap fights. You engage at your own risk.

Threats and calls to violence are agaisnt the rules since they threaten the site. Any posts like that that explicitly violate US law(get fukt eurocucks XD) will be removed and the poster gets his posting privileges removed in Thinderdome for (x) amount of time following their second offense.

Bring all stickers back. It will decrease the amount of slapfoght posts if people can mark something dumb and move on. People accept the acknowledge and accept the risk involved in engaging in the Thunderdome.


Any complaints about stickers in A&H will be ignored by the mods. If someone leaves A&H to sticker stalk someone who hurt their fee fees in A&H at their first offense the stalker gets suspended for two weeks. Second offense they are banned from the site.


I'm my view A&H is a containment zone. Trying to change it into anything else is like creating the 'Soviet Man'. A&H is a symptom of what's going on in the world and there's no way of adjusting that without fundamentally changing what it's purpose is.

I just see stickers as a filtering device. Complain to mods two or three times about how your post got trash cans, get banned for being a thinskinned fag who is fucking up the site.

 

[mold]

No what I'm saying they've hijacked anti-censorship movements because they want their pictures and traced images of kids to not land them in jail.

it's still cut and dry

free speech is important but if it's harmful you can ban that shit

it doesn't matter that a bunch of neurotic undergrads have muddied the waters by getting the vapors at words like niggardly and picnic. harmful speech is a real thing, like when you talk about how sex with children might be ok.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

actually fuck it, make @Hollywood Hulk Hogan the thunderdome despot. his presence in that role alone would take care of the problem.

I will do it on the one condition that I get absolute mod powers there, which includes the ability to fuck with people and ban anyone for any reason I see fit.

I doubt Null would go for it, nor should he, but that's the only way I would do it.

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

And on top of that even if you did enjoy it without being some weird power tripping faggot, much of the community would still constantly shit on you because we're almost all from "fuck jannies fuck trannies" zones of the Internet. There is no such thing as "one of the good ones" in a large swath of this demographic.

I think that some of the other boards dedicated to lolcows and lolcow accessories have better working relationships with their moderators, because the moderators are seen as a necessary force to keep everything in order and organized so that newcomers can catch up, follow, and participate in the threads. Of course, a lot of newcomers (and this is speaking as someone who has only been here for ~2 years) seem to be displaying an increased penchant for a-logging, weening, and cowtipping, so reigning them in might create a little more friction.

But it's doubtless that the relationship between the average users and "authority" in the thunderdome is different in tone. The mods are there to be your stick to whack people who dare to disagree with you or give you mean stickers, and if they don't, then they're the enemy. And it's generally more subjective - if the topic of the thread is a given person or group, what posts are off-topic rambling are obvious. If the topic of the thread is a specific policy enacted in a school district in wales, and half of the thread is people whinging about massive global jewish conspiracies and US politics... are those posts necessarily off-topic and worthy of moderation? Especially since the sections are, in and of themselves, off-topic - the particulars are left up to individual moderators, which seems to encourage that victimhood mentality among those whose oh so important posts get funneled off to the pastadome or binned.

If you moderate the furry board, you might get a kick here and there from something new and hilariously embarrassing that your fellow-travelers dig up; if you moderate A&H, you're constantly looking at the absolute misery that is a steady stream of news and political happenings and a good day is one in which you don't have an inbox full of retards whining to mom. With multiple mods, you could maybe take rotating shifts to encourage people not to burn out so quickly, but even then.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

I will do it on the one condition that I get absolute mod powers there, which includes the ability to fuck with people and ban anyone for any reason I see fit.

I doubt Null would go for it, nor should he, but that's the only way I would do it.

Didn't you already have the opportunity to become a mod and turned it down?

 

[Lurker]

I will do it on the one condition that I get absolute mod powers there, which includes the ability to fuck with people and ban anyone for any reason I see fit.

I doubt Null would go for it, nor should he, but that's the only way I would do it.

this is acceptable and similar to how i would handle things.

You wanna step into the thunderdome, you're gonna be my bitch.

 

[BelUwUga]

I have a possible solution. Its not the draconian be all end all solution that Null wants nor is it something I believe will be chosen. But one idea is better than none I suppose.

My solution is the following:
If you consistently post on Autistic Thunderdome and you try and shit up a thread on another board lolcow or otherwise. You get branded with some funny title and then banned from ever posting on that board ever again. The alternative is instead of being banned from one board, you get banned from every single non autistic thunderdome board and are then forced to post ONLY in Autistic Thunderdome.

Does this save AT from being shat up? No. Does it make AT better? No. Does it at least save the other boards? Yes. Is it entertaining? Probably.

Unironically I think this could be a great solution. Anyone with self awareness knows any of us posting there is responsible for their share of puzzle-pieces and we'd rival many jigsaw factories. If you can manage containing it to A&H and make otherwise positive contributions on the site you can freely pass between both places without some Mark of Cain on your profile. Non-A&H mods should have wide latitude to condemn users to the ghetto for containment. The "mods" of A&H, at least the rank and file, will basically be the judenrat for this little ghetto. Thread bans and short section bans should really be the most power they need. A good extra safeguard is needing at least two mods signing off on a ban action, and probably something like unanimous consensus for the judenrat to forward a ban recommendation for the larger site, or appeals for the users. It would be preferable if these people were otherwise not involved in non-A&H sections or moderation is inward from the larger site only. While the Nazi Germany comparisons are on-brand for me, it's also to emphasize how much using A&H mod privs as a ladder should be discouraged and ideally anyone wanting to join would have the mindset that it is the "end of the line" so to speak.

I think I have some structural tweaks that would also enhance usability while limiting any kind of muzzling of the users, regardless of retardation. I think it should be doable to basically change mod responses from largely "fuck off, deleted" or "fuck off, b&" to, "Wrong area for that, post moved, here's the URL:" I'll work on it a bit and hopefully have an update soon. Editing to add: this would not only clean up the useful threads, it would catalog the retardation and make it easily navigable for posterity.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Didn't you already have the opportunity to become a mod and turned it down?

Yep, I didn't want to deal with the crap that goes along with being a mod. But if it means I'd be able to fuck with the subforum that Null is probably shutting down soon anyway, then I will do it.

Again, I doubt Null would go for it, nor should he (I wouldn't if I were him).

this is acceptable and similar to how i would handle things.

You wanna step into the thunderdome, you're gonna be my bitch.

I'd really enjoy setting certain word filters