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Ratings aren't "downvotes", they do not signify whether an opinion has merit or not, they communicate the thoughts of others about how they feel about your posts to you even if they wouldn't otherwise make a post in text to reply to you. As far as your argument goes, yes, well, it's true that the 'Farms has hiveminds and cliques that are trying to establish officially allowed opinions or hate jerks against other posters, but I do think that putting effort into an argument won't make you usually seem stupid to others but you usually have to tread the waters a little carefully because if you come out swinging towards an established minicommunity, you'll get smacked on your ass because your opinions are "wrong". This imo has less to do with the fact that the Farms are "dumber", and more of a symptom of lolcows having more established followings and the threads being more formulaic, which means that they develop a certain culture and people who post there without knowing the norms of the thread get singled out.


The Shaner thread attracted an incredible amount of fucktarded weening when Shaner came on the 'Farms. I agree that ultimately closing it was more because Null didn't like it personally, but nuking Shaner's accounts was absolutely the right idea because people became more autistic than the lolcow when Shaner was around. The Shaner thread was funny, when Shaner wasn't around, but when he was, the thread was just inflated Clydebots trying to fellate themselves by screaming at Lennayyy.
Ratings aren't "downvotes", they do not signify whether an opinion has merit or not, they communicate the thoughts of others about how they feel about your posts to you even if they wouldn't otherwise make a post in text to reply to you. As far as your argument goes, yes, well, it's true that the 'Farms has hiveminds and cliques that are trying to establish officially allowed opinions or hate jerks against other posters, but I do think that putting effort into an argument won't make you usually seem stupid to others but you usually have to tread the waters a little carefully because if you come out swinging towards an established minicommunity, you'll get smacked on your ass because your opinions are "wrong". This imo has less to do with the fact that the Farms are "dumber", and more of a symptom of lolcows having more established followings and the threads being more formulaic, which means that they develop a certain culture and people who post there without knowing the norms of the thread get singled out.


The Shaner thread attracted an incredible amount of fucktarded weening when Shaner came on the 'Farms. I agree that ultimately closing it was more because Null didn't like it personally, but nuking Shaner's accounts was absolutely the right idea because people became more autistic than the lolcow when Shaner was around. The Shaner thread was funny, when Shaner wasn't around, but when he was, the thread was just inflated Clydebots trying to fellate themselves by screaming at Lennayyy.

On the first point I think you actually agree with me without wanting to concede just how fucked, thoughtless and arbitrary the groupthink pile-on is in any given thread.

On the Shaner thing, three things:

1) If it was super-spergy Kiwis fucking the thread up, why not threadban those fuckwits instead of shutting down the whole thread?

2) Merging Shaner's accounts irreparably fucked the whole thing because now you can't go back and read the thing from the beginning.

3) Can we start a new Shaner thread with threadbans for weens?
 
3) Can we start a new Shaner thread with threadbans for weens?

That really depends on Null and I don't know if he'll sanction that any time soon, considering how cancerous he considers the whole thing. There's a Shaner group still on this forum IIRC, and I think they still discuss Shaner. You might want to try that first.

On the first point I think you actually agree with me without wanting to concede just how fucked, thoughtless and arbitrary the groupthink pile-on is in any given thread.
You're definitely right that there's groupthink, and it's sometimes pretty autistic, but dismantling the groupthink in some cases shits up the thread more than the groupthink itself.

Plenty of powerleveling that went on.
To be fair, not all of the "powerleveling" is equal. Admitting to liking cartoons and sperging about cartoons when you're supposed to be discussing the lolcow in question is stupid, but it's still on a whole different level from saying you're a pants-shitting weirdo who's on a tugboat. Still, it was very unwanted behaviour.


I follow the Shaner group but it's like one post per fortnight going "What's going on with Shaner?"

Apologies for sounding so shitty in that last post, but I tend only to post to vent. I didn't even post in the Shaner thread; I delurked to protest it being locked. And then to make enough posts to see the Shaner group.
Lol nah, I get what you're saying.
 
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That really depends on Null and I don't know if he'll sanction that any time soon, considering how cancerous he considers the whole thing. There's a Shaner group still on this forum IIRC, and I think they still discuss Shaner. You might want to try that first.

I follow the Shaner group but it's like one post per fortnight going "What's going on with Shaner?"

Apologies for sounding so shitty in that last post, but I tend only to post to vent. I didn't even post in the Shaner thread; I delurked to protest it being locked. And then to make enough posts to see the Shaner group.
 
I think the Shaner thread is one of the worst backfires in farms history. It started off pretty funny, but then it just devolved into a massive circlejerk and weenfest that got very hostile to outsiders because a lot of them wanted to pat themselves on the back and crow about how awesome their trolling was and how filthy bandwagoners weren't allowed in. That's what distinguishes it for me from the Entersphere - that was just shit from the get-go.

I think one of the problems the farms has is that there's a fair few people on here who missed the glory days of Chris trolling and want to recapture the magic and make a name for themselves. It almost always spells doom for threads and subforums. *sigh*
 
Since we are discussing the farms, can someone explain what happened with @Cucky, @Roger Rabbit, and @Kirby? Roger was gone before I got here and the other two disappeared the same month I joined. Other than the Shaner thread, what did they do that made them leave?
 
Since we are discussing the farms, can someone explain what happened with @Cucky, @Roger Rabbit, and @Kirby? Roger was gone before I got here and the other two disappeared the same month I joined. Other than the Shaner thread, what did they do that made them leave?
Roger fucked up and embarrassed himself on @Glaive's Stryker Wolf livestream in that Skype call. He had already doxed himself several other times before but he was seen as a forum pet. I never had anything against the guy. He seemed alright sometimes in chat but could be really spergy.

Dynastia triggered @Cucky into tardraging about ratings and that's what happened to him and @Kirby kept posting loli in chat and that's what got him banned.
 
Was that Pufferton @Cucky has given to him before or after he was banned? Cos it's funny as hell. :lol:
Cucky wasn't really banned but he embarrassed himself so much that he left anyway. @BOLDYSPICY! drew that for him when he started to chimp out about ratings and was completely ungrateful towards her.
 
I remember ZSponge having a hateboner for @Roger Rabbit so he must've done something right. I did always wonder with him because he seemed to be on really thin ice in one aspect, but at the same time a lot of people seemed to like him.
 
I remember ZSponge having a hateboner for @Roger Rabbit so he must've done something right. I did always wonder with him because he seemed to be on really thin ice in one aspect, but at the same time a lot of people seemed to like him.

Rog was autistic. Like, literally. He really loved cartoons, made crappy MS Paint drawings, had RP accounts involving Animaniacs OCs, and there are pictures of him wearing Mickey Mouse hoodies and stuff. He would often say really weird and cringy stuff.

But at the same time he was usually nice and friendly, and didn't chimp out like lolcows do, so he ended up being likeable and endearing more than anything.
 
I'm sort of torn on the whole Shaner thread thing too. On the one hand when it was funny it was really really funny since he was so obvious in what he was doing yet too stupid to understand anything. On the other hand the weenery and shit posting were getting to the point of ruining the fun. He really is so dumb that he'll believe nearly anyone who says they have secret inside information (he still believes people offering free info) and that attracted a lot of people who wanted to have their 15 minutes. I can't blame the mods for getting pissed at that whole thing either. The amount of crap that had to be removed or edited in that thread was monumental since one of Shaner's primary defenses is to try and expose people by doxxing everyone he knows.

Speaking of that, now that I've had some time to think about it I also think that quitting the thread when I did was a bad idea. I was trying to be nice and take the heat off of @Pocket_Sand! 's relative but in the end I think it just reinforced Shaner more in thinking I was that person.

It's just my 2 cents on all that.
 
Go eat a dick.



... Coming from someone with no education versus people who have had years of training and require a master's degree to even work in their field. So, given the choice between some edgelord on the internet and a professional who's spent 8 or more years of their life in an attempt to understand, recognize, and work with the human mind? I think the answer's obvious. You're retarded, not sociopathic.

Actually you can just get a bachelor's in psychology to do a lot of the stuff psychologists do. Which is pretty fucked imo
 
How about the time when people seriously thought EDF was trying to do a raid here and Nol had to edit the OP to say that if you thought that you're retarded?

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/edf-encylopedia-dramatica-farms.11626/page-18
 
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How about the time when people seriously thought EDF was trying to do a raid here and Nol had to edit the OP to say that if you thought that you're retarded?

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/edf-encylopedia-dramatica-farms.11626/page-18

I'd forgotten that. Thanks for reminding me.

Cringe Farms.
 
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