I hate pro-bughive channels

[Cow-Lovin' Fool]

Does bullshit like "van life" and "tiny houses" count? cause I can rant about those two lunatic pipe dreams until the lolcows come home.

 

[quaawaa]

Does bullshit like "van life" and "tiny houses" count? cause I can rant about those two lunatic pipe dreams until the lolcows come home.

You mean RVs and trailer parks for hippies and trust fund kids?

 

[Dagobert]

I don't understand how all these urban hive-types expect to deal with manufacturing, warehousing, and industry. By necessity, factories and warehouses tend to be sprawling complexes and they usually have large lots. If you have an industrial area in a city, how are you honestly supposed to handle these workers? We don't live in the days of factory towns, a lot of times factories are, by zoning regulations, separated from residential areas. Unless you're lucky to live and work in a border section, walking or biking would be impractical and unpleasant no matter how "people-centric" the road's designs are.

Even if the bus stop is right out front of your work, which is highly unlikely, the buses won't run constantly. Are workers on 12 hour shifts supposed to show up to work an extra hour early because of the bus schedule, and wait around for another stretch? Not to mention any extra time from any potential changeovers and then walking time because their homes likely won't be directly on top of the bus stop.

As someone who has worked almost solely in manufacturing and warehousing work, I just don't get it. The idea of just taking jobs which almost universally have shitty schedules, uncomfortable working conditions, and high amounts of physical effort needed and just piling more bullshit onto it is insane. These urbanists are basically going "Aight, now you have to wait at work longer and walk a mile from the bus stop to get home because we need to make this city walkable for me!"

 

[Chuck McGill]

As someone who has worked almost solely in manufacturing and warehousing work, I just don't get it. The idea of just taking jobs which almost universally have shitty schedules, uncomfortable working conditions, and high amounts of physical effort needed and just piling more bullshit onto it is insane. These urbanists are basically going "Aight, now you have to wait at work longer and walk a mile from the bus stop to get home because we need to make this city walkable for me!"

They either can't conceive of a job that isn't in a comfy air-conditioned office or they just don't care. They'll try to plaster it over with vague platitudes from r/antiwork but when all is said and done they're willing to sacrifice your comfort because they saw a postcard from some tiny Italian village and unironically believe they can recreate that vibe in a city that houses hundreds of thousands, many of which are only there for the local factory/tech jobs.

The urbanist cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Does bullshit like "van life" and "tiny houses" count? cause I can rant about those two lunatic pipe dreams until the lolcows come home.

"Just accept living in a pod bro. Look, we even gave it wheels so you can move it wherever we need to send you. You don't need room to store your stuff, don't you know minimalism is heckin' poggers, goy? And with such attractive rates from Mr Noseberg's credit union, you can't afford not to turn yourself into a rootless transnational!"

 

[Table Country]

What you wanted:

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What you got:

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SASUGA NIPPON
NIPPON RAILS FOLDED 1000 TIMES
SUPERIOR TO GAIJIN RAILWAYS

 

[Chuck McGill]

So the arguments against walking based cities are:

* Being too lazy to bike up hills

Imagine being so broken as a person that you unironically believe "it's convenient so it's bad!" is a real argument. I could bike up that hill but instead I use a motor-powered vehicle because I don't live in 1854. Seethe and mald about it.

* Female brained neurosis about getting mugged by brown people

Yes. I do not want to interact with non-whites anymore than I absolutely have to. Even when they are not in such concentrations that they cause danger, they're loud, disruptive and irritating to be around. If you think pointing that out or conflating that rational fear with women's neuroses is an actual argument, reddit's that way.

* Commie blocks are bad(even though they already exist in a shitty car based society

The fear isn't based in the fact that shitty high density apartments exist in some places, you fucking mong. Urbanists realize on a fundamental level that they cannot possibly make public transit compete with personal vehicle ownership under the current system, so changes must be introduced to tip the scales. One of the biggest changes they advocate for is encouraging the building of more high density housing. The fear is that this type of housing will be built, proper houses will steadily creep out of the price range for anyone that isn't rich, and everyone will be packed five to a one-bedroom apartment living off of bug bars. Have you seriously not heard of Blackrock, my dude? Are you a paid shill, or are you seriously just doing the work of the Antichrist for free? I'm sure Klaus will reward you with an extra chocolate ration if you keep this up.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Does bullshit like "van life" and "tiny houses" count? cause I can rant about those two lunatic pipe dreams until the lolcows come home.

I swear to god if one more of these types pull up and set out lawn chairs on my damn greenbelt and say "I'm not bothering anyone maaaaaan" when I confront them I'm going to throw their lawn chair and guitar into the fucking street.

I should start cleaning the guns in plain sight, I'm so sick of this bullshit. Guess what, there is no short cut out of the rat race. GTFO of my stuffy old people neighborhood.

 

[Corpun]

Does bullshit like "van life" and "tiny houses" count? cause I can rant about those two lunatic pipe dreams until the lolcows come home.

Go right ahead. They are bugmen in my books.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

you ever consider people have been simping for cities more because black people are finding their way into the suburbs and, in the inherent racism of the white populace, suddenly had the urge to move back into the cities and gentrify the shit out of them while saying theyre not racist

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

People with tiny houses are either rich fuckers who know shop or glamper littles who want to play house. I understand the appeal if they want a literal on-the-go house and enjoy minimalism, but it's not a longterm solution to shelter. It's basically an even more expensive and dangerous motor home.

 

[Spunt]

I dunno man, I'm not someone who necessarily needs a huge amount of indoor space, and if I didn't have a family the Van Life thing might have appeal. Don't like the neighbourhood? Go to a different one for the price of half a tank of gas. Long commute? Just park near work during the week then somewhere quiet at the weekend. Maybe near the beach, or in the forest. You'd basically get to retire to the countryside every weekend.

Yes there's assholes who trespass, litter and behave like jackasses, but there's scumbag homeowners too, and getting them out of your hair if you're unlucky enough to live near one is a much longer and more contrived process than telling some dude in a Transit to take a hike or you'll have him towed.

 

[Table Country]

Guess what, there is no short cut out of the rat race.

There is one way.

 

[Frail Snail]

So I don’t mind having better designed cities but I feel like a lot of these channels are disingenuous. in my opinion they want to bulldoze over small towns and suburbia. And they don’t want to admit that there’s a reason people are trying to flee the city. I say this as someone who unfortunately grew up in the center of a large city. I hate it with a passion. The public transport was ok, but that didn’t make up for the crime, the assholes, and the general bs that Democrats tout as normal.

I do hate a lot of the HOAs, zoning laws, etc., but I don’t want to live in an overpriced city hell scape.

If they were able to own up to the holes in their grandiose plans, these shitty 'Tubers wouldn't have such idealistic views to begin with. Thinking you can just wish your way to transforming a US city into a European one should be a litmus test for retardation.

Another thing they will absolutely never admit is that people aren't the same. Much like how some countries can leave vending machines unattended without them being vandalized in under an hour, some fare better living in cities. If I had to live around niggers in an environment that bends the knee to them, I'd be clawing my way out into the countryside as well.

Finally, there's this perverse mentality of "if I'm sacrificing for this supposedly good cause, I will force all of you to do it as well." Circumstances be damned, everybody is going to get on a bike, whether you're a useless urban hipster or someone who needs a car as part of your job. Fortunately, these types of people are normally too stupid and unhinged to influence anyone.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

I dunno man, I'm not someone who necessarily needs a huge amount of indoor space, and if I didn't have a family the Van Life thing might have appeal. Don't like the neighbourhood? Go to a different one for the price of half a tank of gas. Long commute? Just park near work during the week then somewhere quiet at the weekend. Maybe near the beach, or in the forest. You'd basically get to retire to the countryside every weekend.

Yes there's assholes who trespass, litter and behave like jackasses, but there's scumbag homeowners too, and getting them out of your hair if you're unlucky enough to live near one is a much longer and more contrived process than telling some dude in a Transit to take a hike or you'll have him towed.

I see where you're coming from, and I can understand the appeal of van life for someone who is single or doesn't have a family. However, there are definitely some downsides to van life that you haven't considered. For one thing, it can be very difficult to find legal places to park your van overnight - especially if you want to avoid camping in remote areas (which can be dangerous). Additionally, living in a van full-time means giving up many of the comforts and conveniences of home, including running water, electricity, and reliable internet access. And while it's true that there are scumbag homeowners out there, at least they usually don't trespass or litter on your property!

 

[Chuck McGill]

If they were able to own up to the holes in their grandiose plans, these shitty 'Tubers wouldn't have such idealistic views to begin with. Thinking you can just wish your way to transforming a US city into a European one should be a litmus test for retardation.

It's particularly obnoxious when these people use high gas prices as a gotcha for why we need to restructure our cities. I can understand someone that has a goal that isn't actionable in 10 years or even 20 years, but people need relief from high gas prices now, not in 10 years.

Another thing they will absolutely never admit is that people aren't the same. Much like how some countries can leave vending machines unattended without them being vandalized in under an hour, some fare better living in cities. If I had to live around niggers in an environment that bends the knee to them, I'd be clawing my way out into the countryside as well.

It's a neoliberal's wet dream to have a population that all has the same needs, and these needs do not vary between region or ethnic subgroup. It's an idea that they clearly want to promote, whether it be Disney trying to make its movies have global appeal, or more overt in the form of thinkpieces that usually come in the form of "The Chinese are using this one weird trick to keep their female population down. Why aren't we doing this?" Because I don't care what stinky chinkies are doing. They have their way of doing things and I have mine and you got another thing coming if you think I'm gonna be brainwashed into behaving like a chink.

City life isn't for everyone. For many people, living around large densely packed groups of people that may or may not share your values is a stress they can't or just don't want to deal with. If you live in suburbia or the sticks, leaving your car unlocked is no issue. In the city you are practically begging to be robbed.

Finally, there's this perverse mentality of "if I'm sacrificing for this supposedly good cause, I will force all of you to do it as well." Circumstances be damned, everybody is going to get on a bike, whether you're a useless urban hipster or someone who needs a car as part of your job. Fortunately, these types of people are normally too stupid and unhinged to influence anyone.

>if I'm going to suffer you should suffer too!
Yeah have fun with that. Hard pass. Just remember these are the same people that will decry Judeo-Christian guilt as "Fuck off I don't believe in that made-up nonsense" yet will rake themselves over the coals because Klaus told them to.

 

[Sanity]

Fuck this fucking retard, i get his retarded ass takes pushed onto my feed every single day, yeah the people who just want to be left the hell alone and leave others alone are actually jack booted fascists fuck off and neck your self retard.

You could also ride a bike.
Cycling is the most based way of transportation :
1. You're alone, no stinking obese single moms in your vicinity, unlike in public transportation
2. You get to exercise, so you won't become the stinking obese single mom yourself
3. You don't release disgusting microparticles that poisons mankind and causes cancers into the air
4. If you live in a hilly place, electric bikes are the solution

No wonder why dutch people are so slim and good looking compared to americans. They have been using bicycles as daily transportation for decades.

The only problem about bikes are brownshits that make a living by stealing them, tho.

 

[ICametoLurk]

Jefferson Was Right

 

[RandallBoggs]

The gist of this commie blocks good argument I've come across is that they house a lot of people, ignoring that commie black housing traditionally centers around number of possible families that can be housed meaning that the apartments are cramped as shit. The skyscrapers rant is mostly him whining about how the floors are rented out by various corporations for business and commerce and could be used to house people or some shit, even though that isn't financially viable with the way those monstrosities are designed.

Commie blocks are efficient at what they do (mass housing) but they're fucking miserable to live in, these idiots screeching in praise of commie architecture only prove how apathetic leftists are, and their general lack of individual consideration. I'm starting to believe they legit see the rest of humanity as literal NPCs who only exist to fill up their backdrop

 

[Jeff_the_Thriller]

This is their Achilles' heel right here. I've known city bugmen and while they didn't explicitly espouse anti-car sentiment, they were carless and subject to similar lefty mindviruses. And these niggers wanted a ride everywhere all the fucking time. This was before Uber, so they were naturally bugging me constantly for rides, all the while gushing about how great public transit is. What a lot of these people actually mean is "I want the benefits of vehicle ownership but I'm too much of a fuckup to afford and safely operate a car, so I'll use the old smug cope"

I had friend like this in college. He was from a major city and went to a college in the sticks. He would always bitch about how far everything was and that we were all dumb rednecks who needed cars to get everywhere. But did his tune change when he needed to get somewhere. If you couldn't give him a ride you were a piece of shit and a bad friend. That's common among urbanite bug people. They are almost always selfish and other people only exist for their convenience. Not to say hillbillies can't be shitheads but it's an overwhelming majority with city dwellers.

 

[Certified_Autist]

You could also ride a bike.
Cycling is the most based way of transportation :
1. You're alone, no stinking obese single moms in your vicinity, unlike in public transportation
2. You get to exercise, so you won't become the stinking obese single mom yourself
3. You don't release disgusting microparticles that poisons mankind and causes cancers into the air
4. If you live in a hilly place, electric bikes are the solution

Literally every single one of your points is something cars can do better.

Flaws with bikes:

1) The fact that bikes are miserable in rain and downright dangeorus in snow/ice, making them useless for months at a time unless you live in California or the South.
2) Even in places with little rain or snow, hot weather and the sun makes it miserable to ride for long periods.
3) You can't carry shit on a bike.
4) Bikes are slow and limit the distance you can travel compared to a car
5) Bikes make you much more vulnerable to crime/mugging/assault since they are relatively slow and leave you physically exposed.

About the only actual benefit to a bicycle is that its cheap to buy, low maintenance, and doesn't need license or insurance. And yes, bicycles are great for short trips on a nice day, but they're simply not practical or realistic in many areas. For all-weather transportation in extreme hot or cold temps, get a car. For commuting year-round in rain and snow, get a car. For carrying stuff or passengers, get a car. For traveling any real distance, get a car.

If you don't want to deal with a car, move to the city and use public transport. If you don't want to deal with obese single moms on public transport, get a car. Or if you don't want a car, you can spend three hours every day pedaling your bike to and from work while getting rained on