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Just imagine the destroyed self confidence of these poor children as they grow up, knowing their mothers would have happily aborted them for some ridiculous imaginary political clause. Whatever generation comes in the future, I can see anger, resentment, and backlash.
 
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I get that you have a problem with states making their own decisions on abortion based on what the majority of the people in that state want, but too bad. One crooked poll does not show that the majority of the American people care about RvW.
I see you still have no source to back up your claim. Come back when you do, friend
 
I see you still have no source to back up your claim. Come back when you do, friend
Sources to back up what claim?

I'm just stating what already happened. RvW is already repealed. States can already make their own laws about abortion based on what the majority of people in the state want. Democracy has won, pleb.
 
If Obergefell is set to fall in the future, then at the very least, please, please, please, please, pleeeaaassseee hand the ruling down in June.

The thought of such a blow coming *during* fag month is too delicious. It could cause a meltdown that would render the month too tainted and triggering to celebrate, because there’d be no way to celebrate #PRIDE! in June without being inevitably reminded of The Tragedy.

Imagine if the downstream result of an overturning is a sentiment of tidal change, and people who may have supported the idea of pride month begin to peel away and stop giving a shit? With SCOTUS backing, “the gays” stop being in vogue. What follows is corporations and broader culture simply shelving fag month, unafraid of consequence, because a group of triggered queers is no longer powerful and scary to where they feel the need to bend the knee to avoid liability. I.e., no more recognition, seasonal marketing, and temporary rainbow logos on Twatter. Parades/events become smaller, more somber, and less publicly visible. Rather than being outliers, the lack of identity celebration finally forces the gays to become what they dread: ordinary members of society, who, when they get uppity, are responded to with “oh, you think YOU’RE so special?!?”

…Or, it could backfire and have the opposite effect, with the queers becoming louder and more shameless.
Obergefell isn't going anywhere. It's rooted in an interpretation of the 14th amendment's due process clause that all the justices except Clarence Thomas strongly support (which is why no one joined him in his concurrence on Dobbs). Maybe he gets Gorsuch to come along, but no one else will swing.
 
I've tried to quit this site a bunch of times before becoming a mod, I've made my peace that I'm here forever.
You know that “Do It For Her” scene from The Simpsons? Find pictures of that one individual to fill the one place you need the most cheering up.
If Obergefell is set to fall in the future, then at the very least, please, please, please, please, pleeeaaassseee hand the ruling down in June.

The thought of such a blow coming *during* fag month is too delicious. It could cause a meltdown that would render the month too tainted and triggering to celebrate, because there’d be no way to celebrate #PRIDE! in June without being inevitably reminded of The Tragedy.

Imagine if the downstream result of an overturning is a sentiment of tidal change, and people who may have supported the idea of pride month begin to peel away and stop giving a shit? With SCOTUS backing, “the gays” stop being in vogue. What follows is corporations and broader culture simply shelving fag month, unafraid of consequence, because a group of triggered queers is no longer powerful and scary to where they feel the need to bend the knee to avoid liability. I.e., no more recognition, seasonal marketing, and temporary rainbow logos on Twatter. Parades/events become smaller, more somber, and less publicly visible. Rather than being outliers, the lack of identity celebration finally forces the gays to become what they dread: ordinary members of society, who, when they get uppity, are responded to with “oh, you think YOU’RE so special?!?”

…Or, it could backfire and have the opposite effect, with the queers becoming louder and more shameless.

Supreme Court decisions are usually always in the month of June but there aren't any cases challenging those laws in the pipeline and I can't imagine any state suing so they can ban gay marriage.
I see no way how Obergefell can possibly be taken down. Honestly, what would be a starting point to even begin dismantling it?
 
Furious Twerking sounds like a parody film.
Went to a few Trump flag waves in 20 (I do photos of political and cultural stuff) and the crazy unhinged screaming and twerking of the protesters was unsettling. It also made me significantly more racist.
I do not understand how "I'm mad, so I'm going to shake my ass at my enemies" makes sense
 
I'm going to cross post from the Biden thread here since it seems more applicable here.



A lot of government stability has been historically based around a gentleman's agreement between the branches and their members. As long as everyone understood where they were and played nice, nobody actually had to play hardball - and absent a few friction points here and there it worked very well.

What we're seeing now is the Court recognizing that the 'soft' parallel system built from brandy and handshakes at the country club or mutual schooling at the Ivies has completely collapsed due to an aggressive statist ideology (Radical Post-Modern Marxism). More startlingly than seeing that in the Executive or Legislative branches, where there was always a bit of struggle, is that SCOTUS is seeing it in the lower courts.

Reading the most recent Bruen opinion was slightly shocking if you're familiar with the way the SCOTUS writes, the language used was extremely and uncharacteristically strong. Thomas and Alito especially seem furious with the Appeal Circuits, and I think they've realized that the other branches have poisoned the courts and disrespected them personally as Justices and the Constitution/rule of law.

From the SCOTUS perspective, the old way is over, and the Radicals killed it. The sleeping giant has awoke, to make a WW2 reference, and it seems that the Justices are ready to exercise their power fully and discard the old wishy-washy half measures of Roberts and previous Courts. They'll do it gladly, as from their view they were dragged into a conflict that was escalated by the other side.



Aside from just ruling against Biden et al at every chance, the Court has several options that would have more fundamental and far reaching consequences. First, you have to understand that Roe was not unique, or an outlier. There are many decisions in the last 50 or 60 years of jurisprudence that are simultaneously weak and foundational to the modern administrative state and Radical organizations.

For example, Chevron (1984), allows Congress to 'defer authority' to an executive agency with the force of law. This is how unelected Deep State bureaucrats in the FDA, EPA, or ATF decide on a whim that possession of a shoelace is a felony or your local factory has to spend 10 million for raccoon filters or go out of business. Ever since it was decided it's been on shaky ground, but nobody wanted to rock the boat - but now that the gloves are off, the current SCOTUS might not give a flying fuck. Overturning Chevron would, in a stroke, cripple the current administrative state because, just like with Roe, everyone in the Executive and Legislative assumed they'd just get away with it forever.

Here's another example, NY Times vs Sullivan, which held pretty high standards for defamation lawsuits, basically giving media carte blanche to lie and smear whoever they choose. Thomas in particular would like to overturn that, and likely at the same stroke remove the improperly granted shield of 230 from social media. Can you imagine a post-Sullivan world where newspapers could be sued for constant hate propaganda? It would cripple the social-media complex that makes up a majority of the Radicals soft power.

Those are just two big actions the court could take that would hit the administration immediately and forcefully, but it's only the tip of the iceberg. How would you like affirmative action declared unconstitutional? They could make it a twofer and nix all diversity initiatives while they're at it too! You want to force hard borders by declaring anything except imprisonment or return for border jumpers? Easy. They could even find that illegal anchor babies aren't 'subject to the jurisdictions under the 14th and therefore not citizens. (The irony of Thomas authoring a Blood and Soil opinion would kill me.)

There is no bottom to the ways that SCOTUS could throw massive wrenches into every activity of the other branches at fundamental, far reaching levels. They just never had the motivation to do so - until now.
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Absolutely. A key point in this prayer ruling is that the SCOTUS recognizes that there is not a preference for non-religious actions but outright disfavor of religious actions as a whole. With a particular disdain for Christianity. Big deal.
 
If Obergefell is set to fall in the future, then at the very least, please, please, please, please, pleeeaaassseee hand the ruling down in June.
Wont happen, if it did get overturned it would be one of the most flagrantly contrived rulings SCOTUS ever put out. Obergefell is put under solid ground with the Equal Protection Clause. The sole argument against gay marriage more or less devolves into "ITS FUCKING GROSS!" I find the modern gay community to be insufferable, but I don't find any legal reason to deny them the same rights and privileges as any other citizen. The problem is when they start trying to exceed such things to the detriment of other citizens, such as the trannies in women's sports.
 
Wont happen, if it did get overturned it would be one of the most flagrantly contrived rulings SCOTUS ever put out. Obergefell is put under solid ground with the Equal Protection Clause. The sole argument against gay marriage more or less devolves into "ITS FUCKING GROSS!" I find the modern gay community to be insufferable, but I don't find any legal reason to deny them the same rights and privileges as any other citizen. The problem is when they start trying to exceed such things to the detriment of other citizens, such as the trannies in women's sports.
It's really funny how conservatives allowing civil unions as some kind of compromise just completely and totally revealed how arbitrary the distinction was. It probably accelerated the rate that the public became in favor of gay marriage.
 
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