Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[Cabbagegymnastics]

Luna and Robyn "danced" today...
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She is most definitely reading here with the sudden inclusion of Glenn in these sessions after how often it’s been noted that he’s absent. First the “workouts” after mentioning her flab, and now this. I wonder what’s next.

 

[MysticMisty]

She is most definitely reading here with the sudden inclusion of Glenn in these sessions after how often it’s been noted that he’s absent. First the “workouts” after mentioning her flab, and now this. I wonder what’s next.

Hopefully Atlas goes to the park and gets new toys for toddlers 18-24 months and also is dressed with his hair brushed, for once.

 

[Nader's Branch]

From the deleted birth story.

"It was Thursday, January 17, 2019. I had started feeling the contractions of early labor. Just crampy and feeling overall crappy. I had also started my bloody show, making me feel compelled for one last Mama pampering session, just in case we went into labor over the weekend. I went and got my nails done, picked up my cute and comfortable nursing bra to wear during labor from Target, and then went and got my lady bits waxed. There’s a lot you cannot control with labor, but feeling and looking my best was the one thing I knew I could control. "

What kind of moron thinks like this? I know Im going way back and dwelling on stuff that happened before Luna was even born but I cannot help but make these constant connections between Robyn's selfishness and the meat puppet that is Luna.

How can a woman prioritize her looks during labor over the safety of her child? She actually had her vagina waxed?!? For what? so she would have a bare pussy in the labor pics?1? Luna was doomed from the start. Her mindset has always been about her and is about her until this day. She keeps Luna alive like some messed up experiment for her own satisfaction, narc supply, whatever the case may be.

I wholeheartedly hope this woman doesn't have anymore kids.

This is legit some of the bleakest shit I've seen

Luna and Robyn "danced" today...
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The fuck are they doing to that kid? I'm watching that lady crank Luna's head around expecting her to roll over and thinking to myself one day they're just going to snap that kid's neck.

Side question, when they're all fucking off in the gym in the morning for IG, what's Luna doing? Just lying in the closet? She's pretty much brain dead, doesn't cry or need attention other than the occasional feeding so Robyn can literally just leave her somewhere for hours until there's a photo shoot. Not like she's going to roll over or anything.

 

[Barbarella]

Atlas plays with his own toys in the background - you can even see it in the latest videos. He has from the beginning. There is a toy bench that certainly wasn’t bought for Luna. There are none in the weight room though and his favorite should be there to keep him busy and out of the way.

Let’s not go overboard with imaging stuff that’s contradicted right in this thread.

My theory on Glenn is he got in trouble at work for filming in other peoples houses and just took a break. I also don’t get gay vibes, although it’s funny. If he was gay there be no need to marry Robyn. The bi idea is possible but I kind of think he’s one of those dudes who doesn’t care about how he comes across And would work out nude if there was a reason. His marriage might have started strong,he has woo idea himself, but since Robyn has gone over the bend and headlong into crazy, I bet he’s feeling pretty left out and trapped.

When Luna dies it could go either way. That will be interesting.

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

She is most definitely reading here with the sudden inclusion of Glenn in these sessions after how often it’s been noted that he’s absent. First the “workouts” after mentioning her flab, and now this. I wonder what’s next.

Talking about how much she loves Glenn and how strong their relationship is. He doesn't even look at other women!

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[Ashkatesydlli]

She is most definitely reading here with the sudden inclusion of Glenn in these sessions after how often it’s been noted that he’s absent. First the “workouts” after mentioning her flab, and now this. I wonder what’s next.

Last time the glasses were mentioned she gave a progress update the next day too. They’ve not shown up yet and that was months ago.

 

[Crepidodera fulvicornis]

I wonder what’s next.

let’s see
You’re right fam, she got awfully silent about third baby. When was the last time she even mentioned it? Obviously alive child is too much for this mama, so she tries to rewrite narrative again and make everyone forget about third one in the ether, just like she did with her birthing story in the past.

 

[Blanche]

It's really confusing to me that Robyn is seemingly okay with Glenn posting pictures and videos like this. I mean, his junk is pretty visible. The whole thing looks like an advertisement for Grindr or something. Does she really not care at all? Or is she just so focused on herself that she doesn't notice? I wonder if it's a touchy subject in their relationship.

Spoiler: gay

I was thinking this the whole time, I'm glad someone else said it. He definitely strikes me as a bisexual or gay man who's super repressed lol.

He's fit, so in some way she probably feels he makes her look good by extension. Also, Glenn stays fit. Robin is dumpy and a nutjob, I doubt he is wanting to sleep with her. He spends so much time away from her as it is.

 

[WTFNonsense]

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I really wish she would stop singing.

 

[Melankia]

I really wish she would stop singing.

Would you rather watch Robyn acting out ”Weekend at Bernie’s Luna’s”?

Spoiler: Something is wrong with me

please say yes

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

I just can't get over that Robyn had wasted more than a year's worth of tax payer's money to pay a screeching quack to get her nasty useless spud to roll over and here we are in July of 2022 and she's posting videos that show Luna hasn't progressed at all since April of 2021. There was a reason why every legitimate doctor and therapist "gave up" on your potato, Robyn.

 

[CaseyTatumm]

Let’s play a fun game! Which potato are you today? Tag yourself. I’m #3
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1. Like Luna I’m over today’s bullshit

 

[TractorGirl]

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Do they use this book because the eyes look like Luna’s?

 

[ShadowCass]

….

But hell, Robyn already saw him differently before he was born. Luna got the stupid fetus/baby progress board, and that creepy shrine on the wall. Atlas didn't even get fetus progress like Luna did, the board got shoved into the corner around the time Luna was 2-3 months old (shortly before diagnosis) and never touched again. And if Atlas has any pictures of himself on the wall, it's maybe one or two, not nearly as many as Luna.

IDK, that seems to happen with baby2+, regardless of family’s crunchy weird and/or woo-woo beliefs and practices. .

There’s significantly less time for recording milestone dates, much less describing the details of Baby2’s first words, steps, etc, On re-read, this may not be the best example, but it still holds true if Baby1 never spoke or took the first unassisted step.

In my totally un-expert opinion (don’t have kiddos or related degree/concentration), this decrease in entries or decrease in quality entries, starts with pregnancy and continues throughout the toddler years, after which most parents stop updating the baby book. My guess - based on completely anecdotal observations - is that in general, baby2+’s get no more than 50% of the content recorded for baby1. There are of course exceptions that prove the rule .

 

[PeckingOrder]

IDK, that seems to happen with baby2+, regardless of family’s crunchy weird and/or woo-woo beliefs and practices. .

There’s significantly less time for recording milestone dates, much less describing the details of Baby2’s first words, steps, etc, On re-read, this may not be the best example, but it still holds true if Baby1 never spoke or took the first unassisted step.

In my totally un-expert opinion (don’t have kiddos or related degree/concentration), this decrease in entries or decrease in quality entries, starts with pregnancy and continues throughout the toddler years, after which most parents stop updating the baby book. My guess - based on completely anecdotal observations - is that in general, baby2+’s get no more than 50% of the content recorded for baby1. There are of course exceptions that prove the rule .

I’ve seen this happen in perfectly normal families where all children get proper amounts of attention and love, and even in families where baby 2 didn’t get as much milestone tracking as baby 1 but grew up to be the beloved golden child while baby 1 became the black sheep of the family. Most parents don’t have the energy to put as much into documenting subsequent children, the novelty of baby’s first so-and-so tends to wear off.

In the case of Luna and Atlas, it’s very notable because Luna never reached any milestones, while Atlas is growing more and more each day and even reaching some milestones early. But his shrew of a mother doesn’t care. Maybe deep down she’s even resentful of Atlas for growing like a normal child while the only thing Luna is growing is the megacyst in her head.

 

[Turtlebees]

It could be an emotional reaction. Documenting Atlas hitting his milestones and just generally being a typical child would drive home not being able to fill in those cute little milestone baby book pages for Luna.

Robyn is annoying, and her narc traits are front and centre in all those smirking selfies, but knowing your chosen lifestyle ruined your baby's potential (and is doubtless putting immense strain on the relationship with your "soulmate") has to be one of life's worst gut-punches. She knows, deep down she knows what went wrong and why.

Knowing the woo/crunchy world, wild-haired free range toddlers roaming around in pjs aren't unusual. I feel like this would be Globyn's natural parenting style. Atlas doesn't look unloved or neglected to me. However, I have seen this before, where the healthy child is left to themselves a lot of the time because the primary caregiver parent feels more needed by the 'special' child. In Robyn's case, there's an extra layer of guilt and frantic searching for ways to fix what went wrong so, for someone as image conscious and narcissistic as her, this is all amplified.

Maybe I'm more sympathetic towards Globyn since I'm woo adjacent and also worked with families in the same situation they're in now. A child like Luna changes relationships and drives some parents deep into emotional instability. Glen's coping the way a lot of parents do, carrying on exactly the same as they did pre-parenthood to try to keep living as things were before it all went sideways. Robyn's doing the typical guilt-driven decent into striving toward self-reinvention as the Great Healer who will find the solution; sometimes it's religion but, as Robyn chose, it's just as often becoming the woo expert.

All that aside, the videos of Luna, er, therapy are disturbing. It's the feeding practice when various foods are left dangling from her mouth that shock me the most. Who does that? Who sticks french fries and bacon in a profoundly disabled child's mouth? What would compel anyone to record and share that? If that was happening in my living room every day, I'd be hiding out in a garage gym being oblivious too.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

This is pretty awful to watch. Just by watching the "physical therapist," you can tell she has absolutely no idea what she's doing, the way she awkwardly shuffles the toy away while trying to position Luna. It's also very apparent in these videos just how severely deformed her feet are. I can't imagine that can be comfortable just existing like that.

Does Robyn really have an audience that doesn't find this disturbing to watch? It rubs me the wrong way, similar to Archie's case in tard baby general.

It is even possible the physical therapist would be fine working with a less severely disabled child, but she is not a good candidate for providing services to Luna. Luna is really above almost anyone's pay grade. That huge head alone makes it really awkward to wrangle her. Maybe someone with more relevant experience can chime in, but I suspect that most physical therapists would not feel comfortable working with a child as severely disabled as Luna. Combined with Robyn's affinity for woo, and I think the end result is that only inexperienced or underqualified therapists were willing to take on Luna as a client. A lot of the stuff we have seen in videos screams "inexperienced" to me. Maybe not exactly incompetent, but close. I don't really know much about PT/OT specifics though.

@GenociderSyo, I know you've posted about this before, but the physical therapist is actually a licensed professional, right? If I remember correctly, she's not affiliated with a hospital or practice, just has her own (Facebook based?) gig. I think this is part of the appeal for Robyn. Additionally, I don't think Globyn could afford to pay for therapy services from an actual practice, so finding someone via Facebook was probably their most viable option.

I don't think Medicaid/Katie Beckett will pay for "therapy" from someone who isn't licensed, but I do think it's probably not possible for the state to vet every single therapy provider for experience or competence.

At any rate, I take comfort in the knowledge that it doesn't matter to Luna. I don't think she can experience discomfort or pain, regardless of what a therapist might do to her - and make no mistake, it's a "doing to" at this point, not a "doing for".

 

[Lemon Squeezer]

It relly never stops being fascinating how this poor child moves. Reminds me of that video of Miyazaki getting upset at a grotesque AI, complaining that it reminds him of disable people and is an insult to life.
It's also incredible to me that if they stopped feeding her, she would wither and die unknowingly, with maybe not a single behaviour change (mere hypothesis).
I've tried mimicking the weird robotic eye saccade vegetative people have, it's completely impossible as we automatically focus on things.
Robyn's occasional moments of clarity must feel really bad.

 

[Flourishing Pinecone ❧]

However, I have seen this before, where the healthy child is left to themselves a lot of the time because the primary caregiver parent feels more needed by the 'special' child

And sadly his personality and attachment style has already been formed by his age. Learned deep seated lessons on how to get attention and love from the most important people in his life, which will carry on into his adult life.