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Big oof. Khashoggi’s assassination is a sore spot and not something you bring up casually, but the fist bump was probably more insulting. Musaafahah (handshaking) is a very important gesture between people, shaking hands and saying salaam is considered both morally good and just good etiquette overall. It’s like saying‘I’m putting aside any issues I may have with you and approaching you as a friend.’ To refuse to do this (unless you’re of the opposite gender) would be incredibly insulting. Now on the other side of the coin, in the west a fist bump implies a degree of intimacy, something that many will no doubt take issue with.

I’m honestly surprised nobody briefed him on basic manners in a country that is super dependent on them. Incredible failure.
Kinda seemed like MBS was enjoying himself. The great American Establishment had to bring their shambling meat puppet half way around the world for political theater and MBS got to say "no" at the end of the day.

Granted he could still be insulted but at least has an understanding of practicalities.
 
AFAICT, Japan is the only non-Western civilization/country to modernize and industrialize on their own terms without being colonized. Perry did force the country open, but once they were open they sent out people to see how Westerners did things and brought those lessons (and often Western experts) back and integrated them into Japanese society, leading to them becoming a legitimate world power within 50 years.
Japan got opened up in 1854, and got a ringside seat to China's ass-beating in the Second Opium War that started a couple years later. If the 800 pound gorilla in the East known as China got bent over and abused by a pair of nations on the other side of the globe... let's just say Japan figured out pretty quickly that that joining them was a much better option than trying to beat them.
Kinda seemed like MBS was enjoying himself. The great American Establishment had to bring their shambling meat puppet half way around the world for political theater and MBS got to say "no" at the end of the day.

Granted he could still be insulted but at least has an understanding of practicalities.
Oh, I'm sure he was. "This is the best theater the Americans could provide us?" But hey, the ability to go "No, now please fuck off" after watching someone self-flagellate in a way that gets A for effort but an F for its actual back-tearing would make up for a lot of that.
 
Why is everyone dead set on changing the world by 2030? Are the aliens coming?
It’s close enough to accelerate change to force initiatives through but just long enough to get out of Dodge before it inevitably starts to crater.
On my phone right now, but it seems like some House Democrats can't read the room.
This is just cynical red meat to their base. They need to get roasties to the voting booth because urban and suburban white women turnout is probably going to be the determining factor for keeping or losing many Democrat seats this fall.
 
I was randomly watching a documentary on Baked Alaska tonight and it had a bunch of footage of the 2016 election era that made me feel something inside. Watching it made me incredibly nostalgic for how much fun this all used to be. Shitposting and laughing about politics just isn't the same anymore. Trannies and dragshows for children just is too depressing to laugh at. Since Trump left office it's just been so bleak and humorless it sucks. That 2015-2017 era was some of the best I've ever had shitposting

I feel the same. What really took the wind out of my sails was seeing how obsessed the Republican Party became with ensuring that they crippled the Trump administration, prevented their voters from having a say in the party, and kept the government's priorities on anything and everything but what is good for actual Americans. Whether it was the FBI getting caught lying in court, or antifa/BLM burning down city blocks, the GOP was far more concerned with exploiting the crisis to damage Trump than it was with, you know, what anybody who votes for that worthless party wants.
 
Why is everyone dead set on changing the world by 2030? Are the aliens coming?
I've been trying to figure out the same thing, especially given it was only adopted in 2015, which gives it a fairly short deadline. Best I can figure is that it's building on agenda 21, which was a non-binding set of sustainable development goals that was originally adopted in 1992 (giving it a 30 year deadline). With that foundation behind it, suddenly it makes a lot more sense as being a delay rather than a ratcheting up. Their sustainability plans were supposed to be in place by 2022 at the latest.

Now I've thought about that, it makes me more confident that they're going to fuck it up again, with most of the impetus for the whole thing dying off with its OG advocates. The downside being, of course, all the damage they'll do to the rest of us in the process of crashing and burning.
 
Kinda seemed like MBS was enjoying himself. The great American Establishment had to bring their shambling meat puppet half way around the world for political theater and MBS got to say "no" at the end of the day.

Granted he could still be insulted but at least has an understanding of practicalities.
Oh I’m sure in this particular instance it was more ‘bad form’ than any insult worth retaliation. You’d probably be less insulted if a dementia patient gave you the finger rather than a coherent peer. The former you can chuckle about whilst justifying your letting him leave empty handed. Plus it gives you an opportunity to complain about the west in general.
 
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Even glancing over the strong "the antichrist is here and will possibly come from Ukraine at this point" vibes, man I'm just so glad our government is spending tens of billions of dollars making sure Ukraine is ready to carry the WEF torch.
I thought the WEF torch was carried by Canada.
Replace them with Private Guard Companies.

"Oops they shot a 10 year old? Oh well it's a Private Businesses WHOOPSIE DOODLE"
Isn’t that what most have said is on the way to happening, and that leftists will get best use of those companies?
So the zodiac killer wants to take another stab at running for president. Using the repealment of gay marriage as one of his talking points. Nigga needs to read the room. Its 2022, not 2002. People overwhelming support gay marriage. Not the hill worth dying on.
Also, I’m not sure HOW gay marriage can get punted back to the states at this point.
The best way I summarized Chinese military history to my less historically-inclined friends is "China loses ever war, including those they fight against themselves."

Add to that a complete lack of naval military tradition due to catastrophic disasters like their failed invasion of Japan and I'm not worried about them in the slightest.
And then they discover it’s much more effective to just manipulate governments and use the guise of helping out to strong arm people into becoming your puppets when you plan to take over the world. Don’t forget that part.
On my phone right now, but it seems like some House Democrats can't read the room.
They don’t care about the room. They only care about getting their pet things across the finish line,
 
a few days ago Ted Cruz had a controlled opposition update to revert to 2003 level conservatism about gay marriage, but this seems to be the patched version running through Eyepatch McCain:

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If Joe Kent can get in, I just want him to follow Crenshaw around all day and talk shit to the neocon, because I have a feeling Kent did far more than Crenshaw did despite the aura of the SEALS, and Crenshaw probably knows it too. Eyepatch can pretend to have the moral high ground over MTG because she's some kooky GA woman, but the Ranger guy who lost his wife due to the military faggots wanting to stay in the ME forever? Dan will have to transition to get protection.
 
On my phone right now, but it seems like some House Democrats can't read the room.
I was for a moment going to comment how this is just posturing, but the fact that Manchin (and Sinema still?) has consistently stood opposed to packing the court means that it's pointless to even hope they can do that now and the prospect of them doing it later isn't any better unless they can somehow pick up extra seats in the Senate.
 
Mortality is a bitch.

They made sure to keep the reins of power away from gen X for as long as possible and the millennials set to take over are all radicals that will fuck it all up.
They believed in all the hype that medical science would deliver immortality in "just ten more years!". But now most of em dont realistically have 10 more years anymore.
 
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Kinda seemed like MBS was enjoying himself. The great American Establishment had to bring their shambling meat puppet half way around the world for political theater and MBS got to say "no" at the end of the day.

Granted he could still be insulted but at least has an understanding of practicalities.
I assumed it was Biden wanting to do the fist bump, he's old as fuck and terrified of Covid. When an Arab wants to insult a Kaffir he'll offer his left hand to shake, also known as the shit hand.

They believed in all the hype that medical science would deliver immortality is "just ten more years!". But now most of em dont realistically have 10 more years anymore.
This should terrify everyone. The west is ruled by decrepit boomers who don't have long left. Boomers as a rule don't give a fuck about the younger generations, this is especially true of liberal boomers. I can definitely see some of them wanting to go out with a bang.
 
I was for a moment going to comment how this is just posturing, but the fact that Manchin (and Sinema still?) has consistently stood opposed to packing the court means that it's pointless to even hope they can do that now and the prospect of them doing it later isn't any better unless they can somehow pick up extra seats in the Senate.
There's a faction of the Democratic Party that legit believes they are on the cusp of never losing another election again, due to demographic changes...something that has always been 2 election cycles away since 1960. The problem, of course, is that in a 2-party system like we have, the party out of power will keep shifting its strategy until it manages to shave off whatever the most disaffected group of the party in power is, and win again. The only way to single-party rule is to actually abolish democracy.
 
Can you imagine how the soldiers who stormed the beaches of Normandy would have reacted if they saw this? They'd have signed up for the Wehrmacht and marched on DC.
I can tell you exactly what they would have done
They would have been tried and court-martialed that is after they had a soap party
Military Sodomy Laws The Articles of War of 1916, legislated by Congress and entering into effect in 1917, listed "assault with intent to commit sodomy" as a punishable offense. In 1920, a revision of the articles for the first time named consensual sodomy by servicemembers as a crime. The Uniform Code of Military Justice, adopted in 1951 to replace the Articles of War, maintained the criminalization of sodomy in Article 125: (a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as court-martial may direct.2 A servicemember who engages in consensual sex with an adult of the same sex faces a maximum penalty for sodomy of five years' imprisonment, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and dishonorable discharge.3 Same-sex sexual activity can also be prosecuted under Article 133, which prohibits "conduct unbecoming an officer and gentleman" and Article 134, which prohibits offenses that undermine good order and discipline or that "bring discredit upon the armed forces."4 Article 125 does not draw a distinction between same-sex and heterosexual couples, and anecdotal reports suggest that heterosexuals in fact appear to be court-martialed under Article 125 in greater numbers than gay men and lesbians. But the majority of heterosexuals court-martialed under Article 125 are charged with sodomy in the context of rape or child sexual abuse; charges of consensual, adult, heterosexual sodomy generally only appear in two instances: as plea bargains in cases where the original charge was rape, and when they supplement charges of adultery.5
 
I can tell you exactly what they would have done
They would have been tried and court-martialed that is after they had a soap party
Military Sodomy Laws The Articles of War of 1916, legislated by Congress and entering into effect in 1917, listed "assault with intent to commit sodomy" as a punishable offense. In 1920, a revision of the articles for the first time named consensual sodomy by servicemembers as a crime. The Uniform Code of Military Justice, adopted in 1951 to replace the Articles of War, maintained the criminalization of sodomy in Article 125: (a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as court-martial may direct.2 A servicemember who engages in consensual sex with an adult of the same sex faces a maximum penalty for sodomy of five years' imprisonment, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and dishonorable discharge.3 Same-sex sexual activity can also be prosecuted under Article 133, which prohibits "conduct unbecoming an officer and gentleman" and Article 134, which prohibits offenses that undermine good order and discipline or that "bring discredit upon the armed forces."4 Article 125 does not draw a distinction between same-sex and heterosexual couples, and anecdotal reports suggest that heterosexuals in fact appear to be court-martialed under Article 125 in greater numbers than gay men and lesbians. But the majority of heterosexuals court-martialed under Article 125 are charged with sodomy in the context of rape or child sexual abuse; charges of consensual, adult, heterosexual sodomy generally only appear in two instances: as plea bargains in cases where the original charge was rape, and when they supplement charges of adultery.5
I like how consensual, heterosexual buttfucking is included.
 
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