Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Mr E. Grifter]

Supplying an enemy nation with arms, intelligence, advisers, and plans was considered an act of war prior to the world's two great powers acquiring nuclear weapons, after which point we had a gentleman's agreement that it didn't count because, well, we needed some way to fight wars against each other without saying we were fighting them. It's why the Germans sank the Lusitania and Lend-Lease was extremely controversial.

The gentleman's agreement is off because we used Cold War tactics to go directly after Russian military assets instead of constraining our proxy wars to puppet states.

Considered an act of war prior to the atom bomb...

Yet the two examples  you provided of the US supplying arms to one side during the world wars weren't considered acts of war.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Really shows you how weak the ukrainian government is. They can't accept anything less than fealty, anything less than absolute support is somehow siding with putin/russia. I wish people weren't so dug into their side in this.

Yeah how dare people support a sovereign nation fending itself off from an invasion what a bunch of simps.

 

[The Ugly One]

Considered an act of war prior to the atom bomb...

Yet the two examples  you provided of the US supplying arms to one side during the world wars weren't considered acts of war.

In the first example, Germany considered any US ships traveling to Europe to be valid military targets, participating in the war. IDK what you think sinking ships is if it's not "war."
In the second example, Germany declared war on the USA, and cited our engagement with German ships to protect Lend-Lease materiel as one of the reasons.

Try again.

Maybe you should think harder about what the word "escalating" means, and explain how moving from coups to material support to tactical command is not an increase in belligerence, but is apparently maintaining a constant or decreasing level of belligerence. Also think harder about how relevant Talmudic word-parsing is when artillery's involved.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

In the first example, Germany considered any US ships traveling to Europe to be valid military targets, participating in the war. IDK what you think sinking ships is if it's not "war."
In the second example, Germany declared war on the USA, and cited our engagement with German ships to protect Lend-Lease materiel as one of the reasons.

Try again.

Maybe you should think harder about what the word "escalating" means, and explain how moving from coups to material support to tactical command is not an increase in belligerence, but is apparently maintaining a constant or decreasing level of belligerence. Also think harder about how relevant Talmudic word-parsing is when artillery's involved.

You've moved from supplying people with weapons being an act of war, to saying that supplying weapons was then used as a casus belli for another nation to use when they declared war. It's a strange position to take, but okay. Given that all sorts of activities are used as casus belli by motivated actors, you would need to say anything that causes someone to attack you is an act of war - even when it isnt because that's ass backwards.

I understand what escalation is, I think you are struggling a bit on it though. Russia is the nation who invaded it's neighbor on completely false pretences, in an act naked aggression. To say the West has escalated from that by assisting Ukraine defend themselves is like saying punching someone in the face when they're trying to shoot you is escalation. It's not, it's using less force to counter the force Russia is using. That isn't escalation, escalating things requires you taking it up a notch - the West hasn't done that, Russia are doing it consistently.

Either way, cry more Russia is losing and all the vatniggers who supported them for so long look like even bigger retards than they did initially.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

The Russians commandeered some of the production line T-90s made for India.

At this point, the US could sell all the rotting 105mm M1s sitting in the Sierra Army Depot for top dollar after the performances of the T80s and T90s

 

[Simpadoo]

People that formerly lived in Russia*
You gotta be considerate to the hundreds of thousands fleeing sweetie.

Pretty sure the number is not that high. These are Slavs. Sure, the low-T guys, troons and faggots maybe.

And no, these people still reside in Russia.

Defectors are usually the hohols (see Vince McMahon).

The airsofters strike again!

There were literal riots over the mobilization in Dagestan.

Riots, as in plural? Lol

Implying things aren't all downhill for russia going forth, like it has been for the past 8 months.

They are not. It seems their currency is stronger than before the war and the effect of sanctions was not understood by the West so it has served to unite them against us.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Supplying an enemy nation with arms, intelligence, advisers, and plans was considered an act of war prior to the world's two great powers acquiring nuclear weapons, after which point we had a gentleman's agreement that it didn't count because, well, we needed some way to fight wars against each other without saying we were fighting them. It's why the Germans sank the Lusitania and Lend-Lease was extremely controversial.

The gentleman's agreement is off because we used Cold War tactics to go directly after Russian military assets instead of constraining our proxy wars to puppet states.

Oh come off it. There is no gentleman's agreement between the USA and Russia on arming each other's enemies. We've been doing it for over 100 years. Both of us.

 

[Foltest]

If arming your enemy would enough for a war, wouldn't USA and Soviet gone to war in vietnam then?
Soviet gave a ton of weaponry to North Vietnam. More then US have given Ukraine to my knowledge.

 

[Elbereth]

Not gonna lie, vatnik constanly comparing themself to USA is funnies shit ever.

Bitch, you aren't equal. Not even close!

 

[Pork Packer]

Not gonna lie, vatnik constanly comparing themself to USA is funnies shit ever.

Bitch, you aren't equal. Not even close!

That and proclaiming themselves the Third Rome

TFW you are a literal humanoid cockroach shat from the bowels of central asia and yet still have an infinitely better claim of being the heirs of Caesar than five hundred years of seething ural niggers

 

[introvertedobserver]

I understand what escalation is, I think you are struggling a bit on it though. Russia is the nation who invaded it's neighbor on completely false pretences, in an act naked aggression. To say the West has escalated from that by assisting Ukraine defend themselves is like saying punching someone in the face when they're trying to shoot you is escalation. It's not, it's using less force to counter the force Russia is using. That isn't escalation, escalating things requires you taking it up a notch - the West hasn't done that, Russia are doing it consistently.

"The West" (US, Western Europe) has escalated its activities against Russia. Ukraine has not escalated in the war with Russia.

While what you said is generally true, it's contextually wrong. Ukraine isn't a member of NATO or in an alliance with any other countries, and so an attack on it by another country is not an escalation against any other country than Ukraine.

So when people are saying that "the west" is escalating, they're correct. We are. We're going from doing nothing to doing something when nothing has been done to us or our allies.

 

[recailskender]

That and proclaiming themselves the Third Rome

TFW you are a literal humanoid cockroach shat from the bowels of central asia and yet still have an infinitely better claim of being the heirs of Caesar than five hundred years of seething ural niggers
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ngl feels good to be the OG Third Rome, nigga

 

[Elbereth]

 

[JosephStalin]

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At this rate, he may be signing many more such decrees.

 

[Fait Accompli]

So did they pass Dudchany yet?

 

[Elbereth]

So did they pass Dudchany yet?

No reports as of yet. Let's see what tomorrow will bring

 

[UVB-76]

It's sputnik vaxx, the /pol/ consensus is it doesn't give you autism/whatever, but confers slav retard strength instead as a side-effect. Obviously the reason why ZOG had it banned.

/pol/ is fucking retarded about every topic ever.
It's an adenovirus viral vector, which means it's still "gene therapy" as it infects your cells with a virus that instead of replicating itself, gives the cells the code to manufacture spike protein. The mRNA shots also do the same thing but the delivery is different.
So fuck the Russian vaxx, fuck the Chink vaxx, fuck every vaxx unless you're over 70 years old or you have like 2-3 comorbidities.

Really shows you how weak the ukrainian government is. They can't accept anything less than fealty, anything less than absolute support is somehow siding with putin/russia. I wish people weren't so dug into their side in this.

It's not fealty.
Musk's "solution" is literally giving the Russians precisely what they wanted. You can't fucking give Russia all their stated objectives and feign to be neutral. Musk either activated his turboautism or smoked something funny before hitting post.

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Apparently the US gave Ukrainians access to some network systems… my guess is they’re just using ATAKs which is open source and can be used on any smartphone

The US probably gave and trained Ukrainians with network systems, but I think the Russians just panicked and shot at their own vehicles.
Wearing the wrong insignia is a legitimate war crime.

Problem is, the Ukies cant seem to effectively neutralize these retreating units.

The Izyum offensive resulted in a lot of gore posting on telegram.
The Lyman offensive had even more. The roads out of Lyman were killing fields.

 

[Fait Accompli]

The Izyum offensive resulted in a lot of gore posting on telegram.
The Lyman offensive had even more. The roads out of Lyman were killing fields.

Name of these telegram channels?

 

[UVB-76]

Name of these telegram channels?

One is t.me/spook_boys
There's a twitter account that has some overlap but I think he's got more diverse sources (though it's twitter so he sometimes gets his posts removed due to ToS) https://nitter.net/bigsac10
There's more channels but I only check telegram occasionally for sources and to archive links, you'd have to ask around because I don't follow them.

 

[Got Milk!]

Russian counter to the Reddit tranny battalion:
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Poor fucker probably thought he could dress like this and get out of it. Maybe get beat up or something but no front line. Now you're archived online. Or just a Faggot but still archived online. Well played.