AI Art Seething General

[Mecha-King Ghidorah]

Has anyone here (or anyhwere) ever tried to make generate art with Chris Chan's art style?
As of now, all AI can do is over detailed high quality bullshit, I want something autistic for a change.

I tried feeding prompts like Sonichu and Chris Chan into MidJourney but seems like CWC didn't get included in their training database. Shame.

 

[Ether Being]

As of now, all AI can do is over detailed high quality bullshit, I want something autistic for a change.

Now that you mentioned it, when I doing some early SD experiments attempting to render out stuff in the autistic middle degree of art styles like cartoon doodles or imitations of traditional animation designs. The algorithms seem to really have trouble balancing keeping between abstract or extremely detailed nonsense of any general collective model databases, otherwise the only clear obvious solution is to create manually trained dreambooth models of certain artists just like the CWC example above, so that the internal algorithm doesn't override the abstraction quality of the artist model.

Seeing ai draw crayon sonic makes me wonder if ai could emulate Chris chan art style.
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DALL-E 2 and Midjourney both seem to have uniquely similar input algorithms when it comes to paying attention to juvenile art styles more semi-accurately which somehow operates smoothly unlike SD needing to have strict prompt-fu techniques to make it exactly similar like this.

 

[Muu]

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Alright, gonna power level a bit. I'm a 'Drawslave' as those AI bugmen like to call, and work with a company that does 2D and 3D animations for various companies and clients. While I do think some artists are going to be screwed over in future because of this tech, I don't think it will eradicate artists and art jobs, but it will change things. In a way, AI reminds me of when 3D CGI came out, and all the fears and gashing of teeth that it will kill 2D animation. While 2D theatrical animation did die in the west (I would argue that was more due to clueless producers rather than 3D CGI) 2D animation didn't die, but it changed.

I feel AI art is the same, like it or not it is changing the art landscape, and we can't put that genie back in the bottle. People stealing others art isn't anything new, and there are always going to be unethical dickheads who will do anything to make a quick buck, and they would've done it with or without AI. AI is just a tool, and like any tool it is only as good as the user. It will be interesting to see how AI 'artists' deal with this:

But fuck me the coping and seething from some artists are making me side with AI bugmen. This is what Art Station looks like at the moment.

This is the artist version of the Ukraine flag profile pic, showing that you're a mindless NPC on the same level as the AI algorithm you're protesting against! One good thing about this 'protest' is that it helped me find new artists to follow that don't follow trends. What are visitors going to Art Station going to engage with more, another copy-paste No-AI tile, or a cool artwork?

Regardless of where AI art goes, always remember...real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

 

[Gunter Hatherer]

I wonder. What would an AI art program do if you asked for a mash up of Sonic and Pikachu?

A test case, see?

 

[Catgirls are Love]

I wonder. What would an AI art program do if you asked for a mash up of Sonic and Pikachu?

A test case, see?

Guess what I was doing this morning.

Basically, results vary. You're just as likely to get an incoherent blob as something recognizable. Going to try again with a different model just to see if that helps.

 

[SideshowSam's Manager]

I feel AI art is the same, like it or not it is changing the art landscape, and we can't put that genie back in the bottle. People stealing others art isn't anything new, and there are always going to be unethical dickheads who will do anything to make a quick buck, and they would've done it with or without AI. AI is just a tool, and like any tool it is only as good as the user. It will be interesting to see how AI 'artists' deal with this:

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Something that I feel does get glossed over is the assumption that the consumer and the AI artist are mutually exclusive. As the technology progresses, naturally someone will try to make the process idiot proof.


At which point the pool of prospective art buyers starts shrinking drastically. I mean, why pay for someone to spam prompts when one could do it themselves? If they are spending so much money and time into cooming to their prospective fetishes, why not just do it themselves and fiddle around with the result until they're satisfied?

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Loish on AI art. https://archive.ph/3madH

https://twitter.com/loishh/status/1603434379665104896?s=46&t=uJGHiHiubr1YhSgg1WWVEw

They always complain about consent without realizing they probably consented while accepting the terms and conditions. Selling data is fairly common, even for art websites. Either way, I really do think these artists are shooting themselves in the foot on their hard stance. Also, wouldn't it be a better protest to just leave whatever website sold data of yours? Build your own website, launch NFT with a physical object and a print, or just foster your own community on your own site.

On a different note, why don't we just call AI art, AI illustrations? It is different enough to not be associated with the stuffy art sorts who are getting high huffing turpentine. Same with commercial illustrators.

 

[lolcow yoghurt]

This is the artist version of the Ukraine flag profile pic, showing that you're a mindless NPC on the same level as the AI algorithm you're protesting against! One good thing about this 'protest' is that it helped me find new artists to follow that don't follow trends

Artists who are replaced with AI are the ones who are seething the loudest. Their art styles are usually similar to each other, which are also similar to the styles that an AI program can replicate easily.

 

[John Titor]

I can't be the only one who thinks AI "art" looks like trash and is obviously AI from a mile away, right? Even if it improves significantly, I seriously doubt it's ever going to be able to surpass even a competent artist in terms of things like depth of field, style, and pure human quality. Not to mention these programs don't make art, they compile a bunch of other photos together in a way it has been created to in order to try to fool human senses, so it's always going to have to have a real art set to pull from to stay relevant. Even the anime hentai girls, arguably the "best" AI art I've seen, are obvious from a mile. Partly because everyone one I've seen is a straight on profile shot, but it all has this glossy, overly textured by simultaneously underdetailed plastic look, like someone put a bunch of filters over a low quality anime drawing to try to make it seem higher quality than it is.

I just feel like this is a comically overblown "crisis" unless you're trying to get a 9-5 with a marketing department or graphics design. Yeah, maybe corporations will use this schlock so they can increase corporate profits by .0001%, but have you seen the "art" corporations have been using? It's all hideous globohomo trash with zero soul, style, or uniqueness to speak of. The reason they want AI is because it finally achieves the outcome of truly removing all humanity from a concept that is supposed to be the purest expression of it so they can churn out more propaganda ads cheaper and faster. More corporate dystopia bullshit, but not the end of art as we know it at all.

Corporate Memphis - Wikipedia

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Six years ago when I got into metal working, I was told machines would make me obsolete. In all that time, my company bought one CNC machine, which fucking sucked at most the things it was advertised to be amazing at, and a multi directional auto welder, that nobody who they let touch it was smart or tech savvy enough to get to function whatsoever. It's always the same hyperbolic nonsense pushed by people who WANT that career to stop existing, not something actually realistic.

As a viewer, I am not interested in this crap. It's like walking into a Gamestop expecting games but you see a wall of funko pops. I am also sick of seeing clout chasing dipshits use AI as a get rich quick scheme flooding sites to the point where it's difficult to navigate and they manage to alienate people who were initially neutral about the whole thing.

 

[MightyMorphin'Willbender]

I am watching people flip their lid on AI and it's rather interesting.

Example
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmAAjksuVVn/
(Archive is failing on me)


AI vs Artist

"Oh no my art style is totally unique and the AI is clearly copying it"
1- No, I wouldn't say this AI is totes obviously copying you.
2- This vector-ish look filled with weird lighting highlights/reflections style is being ripped off from hell and back by a million artists, please get a grip.

 

[Jared Car2]

This is just mean

Post: https://mobile.twitter.com/Yuumei_Art/status/1602339282345000969
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I'm kinda anti ai art cause I keep seeing shitty ai art on pixiv now

 

[Brahma]

Something that I feel does get glossed over is the assumption that the consumer and the AI artist are mutually exclusive. As the technology progresses, naturally someone will try to make the process idiot proof.


At which point the pool of prospective art buyers starts shrinking drastically. I mean, why pay for someone to spam prompts when one could do it themselves? If they are spending so much money and time into cooming to their prospective fetishes, why not just do it themselves and fiddle around with the result until they're satisfied?

People already still pay more for mediocre oil paintings than they're willing to spend on a printoff of a photorealistic digital artpiece.

Same applies here imo. AI will capture the lower end of the market just like digital artists and the colour printer did before but there'll still be a market for actual art.

 

[Cyberfunk]

Throughout years of my life I've never met an artist, or lets say illustrator that makes a good living from art that involves just doing pretty pictures. Either they make some money from commissions to pay for a few things or they get into a contract with a studio that might help them pay rent for a bit before the project ends and they lose their job. The only artists I know that can make a full time job living are the ones that have a bigger set of skills, they can do a pretty painting but also UI work, animation, effects, full reference sheets for characters hell even some 3D modeling which branches out to other careers. This is a wide range of skills that Ai doesn't cover so I don't really get all the whining, also I bet any client that was going to use Ai for everything over hiring one artist was going to look for cheap outsourced labor on fiver if they didn't have the option.
If you can mix Ai with artistic skills that were polished through proper art studies you can bring a lot of power into your creations, work smart not hard or at least don't destroy your brain over this.

 

[Psyduck]

The only "artists" crying about AI are the replaceable ones. Unpopular opinion but "artist" as a label is handed out way too fucking liberally

Not a huge fan of AI (or even digital for that matter) myself, rather stick to traditional per my own tastes, but as a tool? Its extremely interesting and i cant wait to see how it continues to develop

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

https://twitter.com/JensClaessens/status/1605817914602422272?s=20&t=SNdW4YcmH1qmY2J5--KJ9g

 

[Atatata]

stifle our creativity and innovation

fight for our right to create

lmao, learn to draw. Loomis is free.
Everyone involved in this shit is a lazy fuck, artists and AIfags alike.

I mean, so am I but there should be some self awareness.

 

[Ether Being]

This is just mean

Post: https://mobile.twitter.com/Yuumei_Art/status/1602339282345000969
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I'm kinda anti ai art cause I keep seeing shitty ai art on pixiv now

AI will capture the lower end of the market just like digital artists and the colour printer

The only "artists" crying about AI are the replaceable ones.

When digital artists start to begin arguing to each other and desperately trying to figure out what is considered non-ai digital art, you know they just started hammering their graves of the digital art medium at this point of spiteful desperation.

Not a huge fan of AI (or even digital for that matter) myself, rather stick to traditional per my own tastes, but as a tool? Its extremely interesting and i cant wait to see how it continues to develop

The extremely optimistic part that even Josh mentioned on MATI before, is that traditional-art is gonna reclaim the pedestal appeal of the art world(and industries, hopefully) again for it's direct value. I still hold my hopes and bets up for AI-art assistance utilities that can speed up the tedious boring process.

lmao, learn to draw. Loomis is free.
Everyone involved in this shit is a lazy fuck, artists and AIfags alike.

I mean, so am I but there should be some self awareness.

I love how my run-of-the-mill drawing abilities can be used to guide the img2img input outline, so I make professionals cope and seethe some more from my transformed silly drawings. Just like how punch cards programs where used on ancient computers.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

lmao, learn to draw. Loomis is free.

When I ran drawing and illustration workshops, those Loomis books PDF's where the first references I told students to get.

 

[Premium Dog Food]

The only "artists" crying about AI are the replaceable ones. Unpopular opinion but "artist" as a label is handed out way too fucking liberally

I second this. If you are exceptionally good at what you do you would not be worried about the AI replacing you. Same if you are in a particular field like architectural illustrations, the AI cannot interpret a floor plan and place objects properly, nor make those things look like the client wants them to look.
The advice I give to people that complain about AI is simple:
Stop complaining and work harder on your art, if you do not like it then switch fields.