Tesla Hate Thread - oh and come seethe about EVs in general with me

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Daily reminder that """full self driving""" is a lie and FSD is not full self driving in any way, shape or form.
It gets spookier when you know that some (if not all) car manufacturers do their self-driving program tests in rural parts of China. There are plenty of dashcam videos showing these self-driving cars not stopping at crossroads, running over people, crashing in other vehicles as they keep going like nothing happened.
 
It gets spookier when you know that some (if not all) car manufacturers do their self-driving program tests in rural parts of China. There are plenty of dashcam videos showing these self-driving cars not stopping at crossroads, running over people, crashing in other vehicles as they keep going like nothing happened.
So they're learning to drive like a typical chink?
 
An Edmunds reviewer got locked out of the Lucid Air that he was driving in a long-term review of the car.

Apparently, the cause of that was due to being in a deadzone, which meant that the Lucid app couldn't authenticate to unlock it. The key fob that the reviewer had did not work either. With the increasing trend of car Phone Apps (i.e. Tesla's car app), and other overcomplicated car key substitutes, I wonder why people are still clamoring for those, when just a simple mechanical key and/or remote would suffice.
 
I have no strong opinions on Tesla as a company or their vehicles.

However, I will say that those who own Teslas really creep me out in how cultlike that they are in their downright fanaticism. It's not even entirely a green thing, either, as it applies to those on either side of the aisle. It's bizarre just how zealous they are about their Teslas and owning a Tesla.
 
Imagine having to jailbreak your fucking car.
I know but at least you dont have to do it to get your heated seats to work, like with bimmers and mercs.
An Edmunds reviewer got locked out of the Lucid Air that he was driving in a long-term review of the car.

Apparently, the cause of that was due to being in a deadzone, which meant that the Lucid app couldn't authenticate to unlock it. The key fob that the reviewer had did not work either. With the increasing trend of car Phone Apps (i.e. Tesla's car app), and other overcomplicated car key substitutes, I wonder why people are still clamoring for those, when just a simple mechanical key and/or remote would suffice.
The lucid its such a fucking meme, they go an make an ev that's even more expensive than a tesla right when ev prices are going down and you got all the other regular automakers making EVs.

Who is going to buy a $138k (that's base price btw) no-name car from an unknown brand when you can get a model S or an EV bimmer for less than that? Luxury cars are 50% flexing it to others so paying out your ass for one that nobody knows and looks more like a 90's intrepid than a modern car with that blob design it fucking stupid.
I have no strong opinions on Tesla as a company or their vehicles.

However, I will say that those who own Teslas really creep me out in how cultlike that they are in their downright fanaticism. It's not even entirely a green thing, either, as it applies to those on either side of the aisle. It's bizarre just how zealous they are about their Teslas and owning a Tesla.
Seems the cult thing is reversing, some speculate part of the reason why barely used teslas are going so cheap its because elon is now a meany bad doodie head who says no-no words.
 
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I have no strong opinions on Tesla as a company or their vehicles.

However, I will say that those who own Teslas really creep me out in how cultlike that they are in their downright fanaticism. It's not even entirely a green thing, either, as it applies to those on either side of the aisle. It's bizarre just how zealous they are about their Teslas and owning a Tesla.
I have a friend who always put bumper stickers on her cars. She ended up buying a Model 3. She went on-line and found all the Tesla cultists talking about how bumper stickers cheapened the car, and then went and put her usual bumper stickers on her Tesla.
 
The lucid its such a fucking meme, they go an make an ev that's even more expensive than a tesla right when ev prices are going down and you got all the other regular automakers making EVs.

Who is going to buy a $138k (that's base price btw) no-name car from an unknown brand when you can get a model S or an EV bimmer for less than that? Luxury cars are 50% flexing it to others so paying out your ass for one that nobody knows and looks more like a 90's intrepid than a modern car with that blob design it fucking stupid.
The main party trick of the Lucid is that it's marketed as the fastest EV you can buy. There's no other reason besides that from the upstart company. It's faster than the Tesla Plaid and the electric motors are rated at 1111 horsepower or something like that. It's a vanity car you buy to read off its spec sheet. The app retardation is why these EVs suck. Every car has them. The stripper model versions are more and more appealing these days.
 
The main party trick of the Lucid is that it's marketed as the fastest EV you can buy. There's no other reason besides that from the upstart company. It's faster than the Tesla Plaid and the electric motors are rated at 1111 horsepower or something like that. It's a vanity car you buy to read off its spec sheet. The app retardation is why these EVs suck. Every car has them. The stripper model versions are more and more appealing these days.
Car history its full of failed companies whose entire gimmick was that the car went fast. But then people would go an buy a "slower" porsche or ferrari because nobody ever got laid with a detomaso pantera.
 
An Edmunds reviewer got locked out of the Lucid Air that he was driving in a long-term review of the car.

Apparently, the cause of that was due to being in a deadzone, which meant that the Lucid app couldn't authenticate to unlock it. The key fob that the reviewer had did not work either. With the increasing trend of car Phone Apps (i.e. Tesla's car app), and other overcomplicated car key substitutes, I wonder why people are still clamoring for those, when just a simple mechanical key and/or remote would suffice.
Pay credits to unlock your car. Somethings do not need to be changed. It's no different than having an "app" to unlock your front door. People who pay for this convenience are guilty of pulling everyone down the slippery slope with them.
 
Car history its full of failed companies whose entire gimmick was that the car went fast. But then people would go an buy a "slower" porsche or ferrari because nobody ever got laid with a detomaso pantera.
Right that's a common sales tactic along with making a motorsports version of the car but with Lucid that's their only car. They have no normally priced cars for the masses.
 
Right that's a common sales tactic along with making a motorsports version of the car but with Lucid that's their only car. They have no normally priced cars for the masses.
Which is why they are going to fail, that car should've released 8 years ago or more.

Now you got Porsche on the highend and VW on the lowend making EVs, there's no space for a new no-name luxury EV brand anymore.
 
Which is why they are going to fail, that car should've released 8 years ago or more.

Now you got Porsche on the highend and VW on the lowend making EVs, there's no space for a new no-name luxury EV brand anymore.
I suspect they'll go the way of Fisker and be bought up by one of the Chinese auto conglomerates like Geeley.
 
I suspect they'll go the way of Fisker and be bought up by one of the Chinese auto conglomerates like Geeley.
The chicom have their own rooster of EV brands, some of which (NIO) are barely staying afloat too, no need (or money) to go buy a no-name foreign one.
 
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Something about Teslas just screams soulless to me, like the cars have no personality. I got to drive a friend's model 3 and it definitely has all these neat features but everything about the car seems empty. Even doing a 0-60 run seemed underwhelming. Like, pure acceleration and instant torque is cool as shit, but the car makes it seem lame. I also gotta say, it really irks me when EV peeps make it seem like getting gas on a road trip is somehow not easier than charging nontop. I can drive 5 states and stopping at gas stations would add like an hour to my trip if I grab a snack, charging on a road trip is not in the same ballpark.

The main party trick of the Lucid is that it's marketed as the fastest EV you can buy. There's no other reason besides that from the upstart company. It's faster than the Tesla Plaid and the electric motors are rated at 1111 horsepower or something like that. It's a vanity car you buy to read off its spec sheet. The app retardation is why these EVs suck. Every car has them. The stripper model versions are more and more appealing these days.

Related to this. I went on road trip through some prime driving territory with a group of friends who are into cars recently and we all chipped in and rented a model 3 performance for a couple of days. The unanimous agreement was that although it was the quickest car present it somehow made being fast boring. Now none of our cars could really be considered slow, and all but one of us currently own or have owned cars that will do a 1/4mi faster than the Tesla's mid 11s, so that skewed our opinions. I can see being totally infatuated with your first performance car if you go from ordinary cars to a model 3. If you've owned fun cars the one trick pony appeal will wear thin fast. The novelty of doing 3.4s 0-60 runs by just planting your foot wore off after about 5 pulls for me the first time I drove one. The fastest accelerating car in our group other than the Tesla was a modified Audi S5 which is similarly a heavy but capable car. Furthermore the Tesla was not at all engaging on twisty mountain roads, though it was easy to drive and fast through the corners for such a heavy car. There is no way it would have kept up with the lightest cars in our group on a tight course. Fun cars make extracting max performance a matter of skill, not just owning a fast car, the challenge and feedback makes it more engaging. With model 3 at least you may as well play a racing sim on a top spec computer.

We would all like to rent a plaid or lucid to test out but they are quite hard to find. None of us own a quicker car than a tesla s plaid, I think the fastest would be about a half second slower through the traps. One guy owned a modified 2012 GTR for some time and actually sold it for the same reason that we didn't love the Tesla; it was fast but somehow kinda boring. I've griped about Tesla's soy-tier interiors before so I won't beat that dead horse.
 
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