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I’ve said this before but please take the time out of your day to watch MTV’s Liquid Television. The fact that this came out 32 years ago and nothing from MTV has shined since then in the last decade says a lot about the decline of abstract, absurdist animation.

Only thing that comes close to this cartoon is Wonder Showzen, The Maxx and the one cartoon that helped originate from LT with its inception, Aeon Flux.
 
I wish more cartoon creators were like that to be honest. After doing a successful cartoon they just fuck off. Imagine if Alex Hirsch had done that instead of becoming a retard online after Gravity Falls.
To be fair, if you're passionate about what you do and it's not hurting anybody important (aka the ones enjoying and paying for your stuff), you shouldn't stop if you don't want to. No matter how much their stuff doesn't appeal to us (Lord knows there's a lot these days). I have a feeling given Hirsch's pull with the industry, he'll be back somehow someway. Unless something comes along to strip GF of the "greatest Disney Show ever" title that is.

This sounds offer. I remember how in the original cartoon they never made it a big deal that Zoey was white. The only time was that time travel dream episode ( which was a good episode).
Zoey would've been happy for whoever that guy dated instead of her. Even if he dated michael. She has been in the old show. The one time she gets a guy, everyone brands her a judas. And she goes back to them in the end? Status Quo is one hell of a God. 🚬
 
Huh funy how its fine to mention the plantation owners and the bankers but when someone tries to mention the, "illuminati and new world order." They hush him up, almost let the intentions of your real handlers slip Nu penny?

Well regardless I have never seen something so cringe in my life. I'm so glad i left streaming after seeing that. And I never even watched the original Proud family much aside that tv movie with the descendant of George Washington carver and the peanut gnomes...hell THAT was a better example of mixing black history in with the zany antics of a cartoon than whatever the hell....that we wuz kangz sheettt was.
 
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I’ve said this before but please take the time out of your day to watch MTV’s Liquid Television. The fact that this came out 32 years ago and nothing from MTV has shined since then in the last decade says a lot about the decline of abstract, absurdist animation.

Only thing that comes close to this cartoon is Wonder Showzen, The Maxx and the one cartoon that helped originate from LT with its inception, Aeon Flux.
Speaking of Liquid Television, here's one of my favorite segments in that show.

It might have to do with this (just read the subtitles while muting the audio).

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I actually watched a few episodes from Season 1 of this, and thought they were actually somewhat decent. But when i saw this.... yeah, fuck that reboot.
 
I just saw that art on Twitter the other day, so I’m going to say yes, it was him.
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So is that the uggo or non-uggo version? I have trouble imagining Klasky-Csupo characters as 'not ugly'.

No it was Eric Molinksy who was a storyboarder. Honestly I can't recall the last time we heard a peep from the original creators. They kind of did their thing and fucked off.

I know now, but I will never forgive you for making me click a Mary Sue link.
 
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By the end, they found the show was attracting teenage-college age women. This trend would persist with Young Justice, which tried Titans again, but ended up with the same pitfalls.
community was compromised of college women than we would normally expect
You know why is it the majority of these communities are usually college women or teenage girls? Guys do it too, but a lot of the more vocal ones I’ve met were usually female.

Just why?
 
You know why is it the majority of these communities are usually college women or teenage girls? Guys do it too, but a lot of the more vocal ones I’ve met were usually female.

Just why?
It's not just that. The ENTIRE Western animation field of today is dominated by mainly women (and effeminate men and pedophiles). Most Western animation shows have been directed a lot towards women due to female protagonists and a very bright, cute (mainly this attribute), and feminine backdrop. Even so, a lot of animation YouTubers are mostly women so the audience of Western animation is primarily women. This is why a lot of males fled to anime as a result because anime still offers room in the audience for guys while Western animation does not.
 
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I'm shocked that Teen Titans Go will be ten years old in April. I've only seen it a handful of times, but I'll never forget the unbridled, autistic rage it spawned.
Jesus I keep forgetting that shows like Regular show and Adventure Time are gonna be 15 years old in 2 years, remember seeing the first episodes when they came out in 2010, and now Steven Universe and TTG are 10 how does time fly so quickly.
 
You know why is it the majority of these communities are usually college women or teenage girls? Guys do it too, but a lot of the more vocal ones I’ve met were usually female.

Just why?
I answered this in the original post, but to reiterate, animation became teen dramas. Teen Titans was ground zero, it was a show about a group of teenagers dealing with growing up with super hero shit on the side. A large aspect of the show was who was going to bone who. You had love triangles like Beast Boy, Raven, and Terra. Teen girls go crazy for this shit. Much of Titans longevity came from shipping wars and all the romantic moments between preferred ships.

The shipping trend was continued in plenty of other 2000s animation. Avatar had the Zuko x Katara ship, Total Drama had plenty with Duncan x Courtney being the most prominent, Young Justice was just TT all over again with shit like Artemis x Kid Flash and Super Boy x Ms. Martian, then you have Adventure Time, which was a shipping cluster fuck over Finn’s potential partner.

While I think @Romeo Montovani is correct, I think a bigger reason why modern animation catches a women audience so strongly is just the shipping garbage it promotes. Shows like the Owl House are solely focused on shipping, so women naturally migrate to it. Lumlinity, Starco, Stevonnie, Reagan x Brett, Morty x Planetina, you could go on. These ships are the foundation of animation at this point.
 
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Courtesy of one of the Proud Family crew members
Dear Breana,

People like you are exactly why our race is perpetually stuck in such a rut. You took one of the only good black-centric pieces of media and turned it into a soapbox for your Marxist propaganda (which, for the record, is exactly what it is). Fuck you and everything you stand for.

Sincerely,
An Uncle Tom Who’s Really Sick and Tired of Your Bullshit.
 
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