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Well we'll well look who decided to jump on the bluey bandwagon.
Not going to discredit them cause mabye they did handle it pretty well but this isn't anything revolutionary. Like others said it was done before by different cartoons aimed at younger audiences. Didn't Sesame Street actually do an episode about a building burning down after 9/11 and it was supposed to be a kid-friendly allegory for dealing with tragedy
 
I won't lie I'm a bit weirded out. I first learned of Bluey before it blew up in popularity. And so seeing are these YouTubers talking about it and praising it. Is this how people who knew about My Little Pony FIM felt when it started to get popular and the raise of the bronies?
During the early-70s, The Magic Roundabout was the most popular with freshmen high school to senior college students other than the original demographic of toddlers or little kids, starting that type of trend, even way before Bluey or SpongeBob.
 
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A fucking bird is dead on-screen.
What the fuck they're thinking?
The Sesame Street episode talking about death since one of the actors died in that time was much better.
No the death isn't on screen. On screen the wild bird is alive but badly hurt, Bandit and Bluey take it to a vet where the bird passes off screen. Rest of the episode is basically Bluey, Chile and Bingo reacting the events, with all the limitations that comes with, because Bluey wants think trough what happened. It's actually quite funny and sweet episode.
 
So I was gonna say this on the helluva boss/hazbin thread, but it's disappeared off the front page. Then I considered the autistic purchases thread but I haven't actually bought anything.

Those "limited run" sales vizie runs on shark robot? They're a scam to fleece fan boys and consumers. Oh sure the limited supply can lead to scalpers reselling the merch (pins, mats, posters, ect) on second hand sites like eBay at inflated prices. But aside that there are much better and even cheaper options out there for hazbin/helluva whatsits and thingamabobs.

And I say this as someone enjoying helluva and anticiping hazbins eventual release (not that I'll be watching it on Netflix officially) and I get WHY viv and Co do this. She makes her shows independently and has taken steps to ensure that she'll never have to rely on networks or companies for support. Cause she knows how they operate, and how they screw over cartoonists five ways to Sunday. I'm all for viv making money. Even if it means giving brainless gits with porus neet pockets something to blow their gibs me dats on.


Next time I'll reveal the harsh truth about Craig McCracken and what he secretly thinks of you.
 
Bluey is a cute, charming show. It's one of the better children's shows to have come out in the past decade, of which I'll give it massive credit to when shit like Cocomelon exists that everyone's braindead babies are watching. Adults liking it is fine as it was made with both children and parents in-mind.

But man, the fanbase is borderline autistic. Are adults seriously balling their eyes out to this, are we that emotionally fragile these days? Fucking "emotional ranking."
I'm not one to comment on someone's emotions, I hate that "be a man" shit they use to emotionally stunt men; but I ultimately find this rather silly.

I wonder if the show-runners know of the sheer autism they've attracted.
It’s a genuinely sweet and touching show, I’m almost certain that most of the fanbase that elevated it to such a hailed status due to autism. It is also very popular maybe with traumatised people I think, a lot of these adult animation fans often use shows like these as an emotional crutch due to maybe a lack of successes in their own lives and the sense of warmth an idealised view of a family that’s presented here.

Because is such a universal medium, animation is a subject that a lot of autists attach themselves emotionally to these characters and themes because it gives them a type of escape from their mundane lives I think. It’s the superficial cuteness of these characters that attract an adult audience into being so fascinated by them. I do find it bizarre that Bluey is the one to become MLP 2.0 though, with Mlp there is an enormous amount of lore and tons of characters to the universe whilst Bluey is just a very simple family show with anthro foxes and animals. Maybe fantasy nausea has led to this.
Yes, sadly.
It is shocking how minuscule any representation of good family there is animation. I wonder why this is?
 
So I was gonna say this on the helluva boss/hazbin thread, but it's disappeared off the front page. Then I considered the autistic purchases thread but I haven't actually bought anything.

Those "limited run" sales vizie runs on shark robot? They're a scam to fleece fan boys and consumers. Oh sure the limited supply can lead to scalpers reselling the merch (pins, mats, posters, ect) on second hand sites like eBay at inflated prices. But aside that there are much better and even cheaper options out there for hazbin/helluva whatsits and thingamabobs.

And I say this as someone enjoying helluva and anticiping hazbins eventual release (not that I'll be watching it on Netflix officially) and I get WHY viv and Co do this. She makes her shows independently and has taken steps to ensure that she'll never have to rely on networks or companies for support. Cause she knows how they operate, and how they screw over cartoonists five ways to Sunday. I'm all for viv making money. Even if it means giving brainless gits with porus neet pockets something to blow their gibs me dats on.


Next time I'll reveal the harsh truth about Craig McCracken and what he secretly thinks of you.
I honestly have known about the truth of McCracken. Yet, he still made quality content. Plus, Hazbin/Helluva fantards are always complete prime consoomers
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It is shocking how minuscule any representation of good family there is animation. I wonder why this is?
I'll bet good money that a majority is for the sake of realism. Like they expect people wouldn't be interested in their show if it didn't have some kind of dysfunctional family dynamic in them that wouldn't be "relatable" enough to people.

That being said, it's not to say there isn't good families in shows that come to mind. Gumball, Phineas & Ferb (especially with Doof trying to be a good father), Clarence (Though your mileage may vary if you consider a divorced mom with a Boyfriend a "good" family) and if we're talking older shows, then shows like Dexter, PPG, Chowder also come to mind when it comes to "good" family dynamics. They probably aren't up there in terms of what a "wholesome" family may look like compared to Bluey, but they certainly aren't Family Guy levels of dysfunctional.
 
That being said, it's not to say there isn't good families in shows that come to mind. Gumball, Phineas & Ferb (especially with Doof trying to be a good father), Clarence (Though your mileage may vary if you consider a divorced mom with a Boyfriend a "good" family) and if we're talking older shows, then shows like Dexter, PPG, Chowder also come to mind when it comes to "good" family dynamics. They probably aren't up there in terms of what a "wholesome" family may look like compared to Bluey, but they certainly aren't Family Guy levels of dysfunctional.
Don't forget to add shows like Billy & Mandy, Cow & Chicken, Wild Thornberrys, Angry Beavers and Hey Arnold in terms of having respective families that are either goofy or wholesome, still a far cry from many dysfunctional families in animation (namely Family Guy, American Dad, etc.)
 
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Scott Adams? I thought he was right leaning
I mean yes, but lest we forget two animated series with one from UPN and the other being web animated, both are great by the way, and in 2006 there was an announcement of a proposed live-action movie in the works with Chris Columbus to direct and Stanley Tucci, Will Smith and Jim Parsons to star in it, but nothing came of it since 2012, and by 2017 Adams confirmed it was cancelled because it was impossible to translate his comic into feature-length, which this I understood because at least it worked better in a TV episode fashion than an 80 plus minute feature.
 
So I was gonna say this on the helluva boss/hazbin thread, but it's disappeared off the front page. Then I considered the autistic purchases thread but I haven't actually bought anything.

Those "limited run" sales vizie runs on shark robot? They're a scam to fleece fan boys and consumers. Oh sure the limited supply can lead to scalpers reselling the merch (pins, mats, posters, ect) on second hand sites like eBay at inflated prices. But aside that there are much better and even cheaper options out there for hazbin/helluva whatsits and thingamabobs.

And I say this as someone enjoying helluva and anticiping hazbins eventual release (not that I'll be watching it on Netflix officially) and I get WHY viv and Co do this. She makes her shows independently and has taken steps to ensure that she'll never have to rely on networks or companies for support. Cause she knows how they operate, and how they screw over cartoonists five ways to Sunday. I'm all for viv making money. Even if it means giving brainless gits with porus neet pockets something to blow their gibs me dats on.


Next time I'll reveal the harsh truth about Craig McCracken and what he secretly thinks of you.
You probably should've kept this in the Vivzie thread. Spindlehorse is a hybrid of web animation and mainstream animation. It hires the professional people who are mid-stop in the revolving door of the employment/freelance cycle of the industry while also releasing the professional-level quality cartoons online free of charge (on jewtube soon to be pajeettube of all places that remove videos for no reason, the tits on this woman!) at any time they choose. No investors to service, just a global audience to keep coming and happy. She has stumbled but hasn't fucked it up yet.

For you to say the sales are scams makes you late but claiming you can get "cheaper options out there" for stuff from what's technically an indie studio makes you loony if you want more indie shit. That money goes to the fans who make the cheaper shit, not Spindlehorse. Doing that for the mainstream shows is fine-ish since they have investors and (((others))) to fall back on. Doing it for indie projects who have nobody but the fans is just being a leech. Make a donation without getting plastic crap if you don't want it so much.

I won't lie I'm a bit weirded out. I first learned of Bluey before it blew up in popularity. And so seeing are these YouTubers talking about it and praising it. Is this how people who knew about My Little Pony FIM felt when it started to get popular and the raise of the bronies?
Nobody could've predicted MLP:FIM's popularity which is why it's still intriguing to this day. Even after anime (thanks to Toonami, Fox Kids and DIC) and PPG took the toy world by storm briefly they still had no idea. The spergs of MLP:FIM's heyday were late teens to all sorts of 20s. They now have moved on, grown up (hah) or sadly cling to old days. Now there's a new generation who have said their dream is to be influencers/youtubers just in time for another kids show to be the new subject of their ad revenue interest. Will lessons be learned and autists be rightfully bullied? We can only hope.
 
I mean yes, but lest we forget two animated series with one from UPN and the other being web animated, both are great by the way, and in 2006 there was an announcement of a proposed live-action movie in the works with Chris Columbus to direct and Stanley Tucci, Will Smith and Jim Parsons to star in it, but nothing came of it since 2012, and by 2017 Adams confirmed it was cancelled because it was impossible to translate his comic into feature-length, which this I understood because at least it worked better in a TV episode fashion than an 80 plus minute feature.
Oh I didn't know about that. Thanks
 
I honestly have known about the truth of McCracken
Now disclaimer this is more speculation (as my prior opinion thank you yamma damma) but if you go back and look at eps of the power puff girls collect her and city of clips ville. (which despite airing in season 5 was still story driven by craig and co) It almost feels like he and to an extent the people who worked for him at the time have contempt for people like us or animation fans in general.


Sure everyone and their mother's made the joke about Lenny Baxter predicted discord mods, but really re-listen to the professor's little speech about "true fandom." it has good intentions behind it, but then you recall the narrator literally telling him to get a life (the pre internet version of touch grass) Then of course there's city of clipsville. Which despite being hated by fans Craig has all but admitted the episode was made because he and the crew hated all the ridiculous content fans made and posted on the web. (in 2003 and that's assuming they were talking about the tamer aspects)

Again I could just be seeing things that aren't there, leaping at shadows and all that jazz. Or it's just old age cynicism talking. But as a certain little fanboy once said, "I learned an important lesson, you can't count on anyone especially your heroes."
 
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