Metroid general

What's your opinion on Dread so far?

  • It's good

    Votes: 111 60.3%
  • It's bad

    Votes: 7 3.8%
  • It's too linear, I don't like fusion and I don't like this

    Votes: 7 3.8%
  • It's not as linear as I thought it would be

    Votes: 9 4.9%
  • I haven't played it lol

    Votes: 24 13.0%
  • Where's Super Metroid 2?

    Votes: 16 8.7%
  • I don't care, where the fuck is Prime 4?

    Votes: 20 10.9%
  • Why can't Metroid crawl?

    Votes: 49 26.6%

  • Total voters
    184
You're not quoting anything I said or expressed though, can't even remember reading those posts, unlike when I quoted what you actually wrote. Who's strawmannin' now?
You guys were basically calling for more censorship, acting as if Nintendo was turning Samus into a Hooters whore. All I did was argue for the status quo where Nintendo does what, exactly? Show that Samus is a hot babe for less than 1% of the time? Oh, the horror! He must be a coomer! A freak! A deviant who deserves to be burned at the stake!
 
Yes, it is a strawman. After all, who said anyone was censoring her? You yahoos were the ones complaining that she wasn't censored enough.
I dunno who said that, all I know is I asked how anyone could consider NES Samus sprites sexy and you started talking as if there was *nothing else* to jerk off too because there weren't 3D Graphics back then which makes you sound like a coom brain degenerate who can only get off to pixels.

I'd also say that the fact you keep hyperbolically calling everyone prudes and arguing the point also makes it seem like you took the stance of "Samus works better when she isn't in a catsuit" super personal like, and thus, come off as a coom brain degenerate.

Now maybe you're not, I'm not going to argue it, but you have to understand if a normal guy wears a gimpsuit, people are going to jump to some conclusions.
 
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Technically yeah but when I was wee and I saw this cartridge:
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I figured it was a cool robot guy and then I played it and thought it was just a shitty knockoff of Mega Man and then I disregarded Metroid for the rest of my life, and only when the internet came along did I find out Samus was a lady
Supposedly that was their intent (well, not the dismissing it as a Mega Man knockoff part), and the player would be surprised at the end.

No, that's not a strawman, I'm actually curious about the censoring of Samus. Who is doing it and in what way? I posted because the fantasies("head canon" for some of you) got really weird in this thread. I clicked to read about Metroid and not alien gangbang scenarios to own a gamergate chick from ten years ago.
You were really triggered by that jab at SJWs huh :story:
 
Well I mean, given that one dev comment that she's totally a troon, the odds are nonzero.
Possibly, but I'd like to think that it's way too late in the game to add something like that. It'd be like making Princess Peach black.

That and the hope that Nintendo's too protective of its first-party IPs to damage Samus with something as stupid as that.
 
Way to out yourself, Master Roshi.


Well I mean, given that one dev comment that she's totally a troon, the odds are nonzero.
Dev comment? Do you mean like an actual dev for one of the games, or do you mean 'Moonrocks' Wu, whose only foray into developing a game is closer to a war crime than anything?
 
Dev comment? Do you mean like an actual dev for one of the games, or do you mean 'Moonrocks' Wu, whose only foray into developing a game is closer to a war crime than anything?

In the 1994 Japanese Nintendo Official Guide Book for Super Metroid, a number of biography cards were published about each of the members of the development team. Hirofumi Matsuoka, one of the background artists and a designer for Samus in the original game, answered one of the questions (which asked if there were any secrets of Samus that only he knew) with the statement "Samus isn't a woman. As a matter of fact, she's actually a newhalf."[40] Newhalf (ニューハーフ nyūhāfu?) is a Japanese slang term used to refer to transgender women or transvestites, roughly equivalent to the English slur "shemale".[41] The sincerity of this quote has since become a source of heated debate; some fans have cited it as canonical proof of Samus being a trans woman, while others have dismissed it as a crude joke from a non-authoritative source.[42] Regardless of Matsuoka's intentions, his remark has been contradicted (and likely overruled) by series co-creator Yoshio Sakamoto, who joked in 2004 that a Metroid game on the PlayStation 2 would be "as likely as Samus Aran being a newhalf".[43], as well as canonical material that depicts Samus as being female as early as her toddler years.
 
lol this nigga jerks off to cartoons
Ok Chud

Well I mean, he is Mexican. Isn't sexual exploitation a national pastime over there?

No but seriously, it's really not hard: whack off to whatever, but when you come out rabidly defending it, it just looks weird.
Don't be like that, the United States of Colonialism has rape in it's history.
 
They're probably still working on thinking about what would make Prime 4 work. I mean, it is the most well-acclaimed Metroid series. They sure as hell don't want to screw that up.
I was thinking today about what the plot of Prime 4 would be about. The main issue is that the main plot thread through Prime 1-3 (Phazon and its effects on its surroundings) is solved at the end of Prime 3 with Phazon being completely eliminated after the destruction of Phaaze.

So you end up in a Catch-22 for what the plot would be for Prime 4. If you make it about Phazon it would cheapen out Prime 3's ending, but if you make it about something else besides Phazon, you might as well make a game not tied down to the Prime series.
 
I was thinking today about what the plot of Prime 4 would be about. The main issue is that the main plot thread through Prime 1-3 (Phazon and its effects on its surroundings) is solved at the end of Prime 3 with Phazon being completely eliminated after the destruction of Phaaze.

So you end up in a Catch-22 for what the plot would be for Prime 4. If you make it about Phazon it would cheapen out Prime 3's ending, but if you make it about something else besides Phazon, you might as well make a game not tied down to the Prime series.
If they're smart, it would be some bounty hunter shit. One thing that's always been lacking in the Metroid series is bounty hunting. Something like Star Wars: Bounty Hunter actually had bounties for the player to catch. (ie. you go to an area with people, and some of them have prices on their heads, dead or alive) Samus mostly operates on fringe territories without civilians. It'd be a nice change of pace for her to operate in civilian territory, maybe even snuff out some crooks with prices on their heads.

But I can see them extending the phazon plot from the mainline Prime Trilogy by having the Federation re-create phazon somehow and it gets loose and Samus has to put them down once more. If it's not the Space Pirates screwing things up, it's the Feddies, and that's basically a constant in the Metroid games.
 
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Frankly I think it was a mistake to ever call Samus a bounty hunter. Based on everything we've seen in the games she's a mercenary, not a bounty hunter.
That's actually correct.

The Japanese devs did not understand what a bounty hunter is. They actually believed Samus being a bounty hunter meant she was a mother figure with a heart of gold.

That is one of the biggest reasons citing the Japanese devs about their intentions regarding Metroid is hilariously stupid.

Proof:

 
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If they're smart, it would be some bounty hunter shit. One thing that's always been lacking in the Metroid series is bounty hunting. Something like Star Wars: Bounty Hunter actually had bounties for the player to catch. (ie. you go to an area with people, and some of them have prices on their heads, dead or alive) Samus mostly operates on fringe territories without civilians. It'd be a nice change of pace for her to operate in civilian territory, maybe even snuff out some crooks with prices on their heads.
That would be fun and you could have Samus going planet to planet infiltrating compounds to collect the bounties. Though as @Karma Khan and @X Prime said, Samus isn't really a bounty hunter by trade.

Something else that would make for an interesting Metroid game would be where Samus is hired to explore a star sector where an unusual amount of Chozo ruins and bases are discovered by the Federation. Of course this would only be after the Federation sent in a battalion or two of space marines and had them all get killed due to automated defenses and wildlife per tradition.

You would have planets that are more focused on research and specimen containment while others are armories and testing grounds containing powerful Chozo weapons, armor, and prototypes (both armor and weapons). You could even have a planet that is like a Chozo subdivision where you have a bunch of homes, cities, and space ports where the Chozo lived and commuted back and forth to other local planets (why live close to an experiment that could eat or mutate you or a weapon that would crack the planet you are on).

Those are some ideas just from doing a little brainstorming.

But I can see them extending the phazon plot from the mainline Prime Trilogy by having the Federation re-create phazon somehow and it gets loose and Samus has to put them down once more. If it's not the Space Pirates screwing things up, it's the Feddies, and that's basically a constant in the Metroid games.

You would think that the Federation would have looked at what happened to the Space Pirates and realized that messing with Phazon is not worth the time when looking at what happened to anyone trying to harness it.
 
You guys were basically calling for more censorship, acting as if Nintendo was turning Samus into a Hooters whore. All I did was argue for the status quo where Nintendo does what, exactly? Show that Samus is a hot babe for less than 1% of the time? Oh, the horror! He must be a coomer! A freak! A deviant who deserves to be burned at the stake!
What have you turned this thread into? Nobody cares about the sexualisation of some space marine character from a popular children’s video game series Just stfu about your weird Metroid fetish you secretly harbour that’s @metroid_fetish job.
 
That's actually correct.

The Japanese devs did not understand what a bounty hunter is. They actually believed Samus being a bounty hunter meant she was a mother figure with a heart of gold.

That is one of the biggest reasons citing the Japanese devs about their intentions regarding Metroid is hilariously stupid.
No, they thought a bounty hunter trails a bunch of pirates and tries to stop their evil experiments while blowing planets up. Kind of like being a weird cross between Boba Fett and Grand Moff Tarkin from Star Wars. Proven by the fact that Other M keeps referencing Super Metroid as a direct prequel to itself.

Ironically enough, a real-life bounty hunter can be a loving mother figure with a heart of gold, especially since real-life bounty hunters bring people in alive, instead of mass-genociding entire armies of pirates. You're basically a glorified law enforcement agent working to arrest lawbreakers. Sounds like something that someone with a heart of gold would do, since they won't have to actually kill people, just arrest them and get paid for it. Maybe a mother with kids to feed and raise, who's good at catching crooks, would go bounty-hunting to put them through college.

@Cultured Xeno
Something else that would make for an interesting Metroid game would be where Samus is hired to explore a star sector where an unusual amount of Chozo ruins and bases are discovered by the Federation. Of course this would only be after the Federation sent in a battalion or two of space marines and had them all get killed due to automated defenses and wildlife per tradition.

You would have planets that are more focused on research and specimen containment while others are armories and testing grounds containing powerful Chozo weapons, armor, and prototypes (both armor and weapons). You could even have a planet that is like a Chozo subdivision where you have a bunch of homes, cities, and space ports where the Chozo lived and commuted back and forth to other local planets (why live close to an experiment that could eat or mutate you or a weapon that would crack the planet you are on).

Those are some ideas just from doing a little brainstorming.
That sounds more like a Star Trek game, but Prime does have a bit of the Trek genome due to the scanner incorporated into Samus's helmet in the Prime games, so that can work.

The funny thing is that Metroid Prime is a better Star Trek game than all the Star Trek games combined, making you explore new environments and scan them while fighting off hostile wildlife.

You would think that the Federation would have looked at what happened to the Space Pirates and realized that messing with Phazon is not worth the time when looking at what happened to anyone trying to harness it.
We are talking about the same Federation that resurrected Mother Brain in the form of a little girl, right? Not to mention that they did their own Phazon experiments in Prime 3, so they've definitely had a taste for it.

Frankly I think it was a mistake to ever call Samus a bounty hunter. Based on everything we've seen in the games she's a mercenary, not a bounty hunter.
A mercenary and a bounty hunter tend to be interchangeable in fiction. Based on the Prime games, she's more of a crusader against Space Pirates, especially with how the Prime games set her up to be some kind of savior. In the Prime games, Samus has more in common with Anakin Skywalker bringing balance to the Force than Boba Fett icing someone for a fat stack of cash. Maybe you can also liken her to Geralt of Rivia from the Witcher series coming down to deal with a special kind of pest.
 
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Did you not watch the video?

Jap devs think that Samus is very caring about the planet she's on and is only doing this "bounty hunting" to save the planet/inhabitants. That she's "motherly" and wants to "protect ".

She's not a bounty hunter to them, but some kind of generic Marvel hero with mommy tendencies.
 
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