Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

I see your taste in anime

He had me up until that point.

 

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What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

I don't really have any. And I don't know why I need one.

Everything I dislike about troons stems from the fact that they are batshit insane.

Insanity is not to be normalized. Somehow, we're supposed to make an exception for these guys. I fundamentally disagree with this. And I don't feel the need to argue my point further.

I don't care enough to try and dissect the intricacies of what makes them damaging for society. It's just moving the goal post. Insane people are insane, and there is nothing to be proud about.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I hate that in their arguments to destroy biological sex they constantly resort to Diogenes' chicken:

You say a man has a penis and a women has a vagina, huh? What about the girl born without a vagina? Does that make her a boy? Hmm? Hmm?

Plato says humans are furless bipeds, huh? So I guess according to Plato plucked chickens are humans!

Exactly. Diogenes, while certainly entertaining (theres a story about Alexander the Great going to speak to him and offering to grant him anything in his power he wished, should he just ask. Diogenes told him to move a little over to the left because he was blocking the sun ) and admittedly having his moments of wisdom, was also completely fucking insane, and a pathological contrarian who chose to live in squalor because men of his station in Athens were expected to be "respectable" and Diogenes hated to be told what to do.
He's certainly a strange guy to pick as a role model.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

My second fundamental issue with it is the fact that 99% of AGP trannies view not only mine, but other women's life
experiences and womanhood as some twisted degrading experience and that are our lives are that of some porn movie that they
jacked off to.

Matt Walsh has done a really good job articulating and rebutting this particular point.

"What you want to do is you want to appropriate women - you want to appropriate *womanhood* - and turn it into basically a costume that can be worn."
--Matt Walsh to some troon, Dr. Phil show

 

[Ted Kaczynski]

They are rebelling against God's creation of male and female as separate beings.

Pro tip: troons flourish under atheism. You NEED God fundamentally in your argument otherwise it falls apart.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

The trannies and their pals are demanding that the rest of us must rewire our brains to perceive males as females and females as males. We can't do that. It's causing chaos in every corner of human society. And from a basic continuation of the species point of view, we must not allow it to continue any further. Talk about goin' DEVO. Talk about inviting even more anxiety and mistrust into our mate seeking, pair bonding, and family making behaviors that are already under considerable strain. Over enough generations we could adapt ourselves into extinction, FFS.

We have the right to believe what we see when we look at another human being. We need to trust that what we see is true and honest. We need to be confident that our brain's cognitive processes are not mistaken. The moment a tranny walks out of his or her door into the public realm they're fucking with that shared reality and they're undermining that necessary trust and confidence. TTD. There really is no alternative.

 

[YachieKicchou]

The fact that I have to wake up every day and wonder if they got their hands on a friend, or a person I like, or some person I follow. That I have to watch for signs of trooning out because at least one of them got their claws on them and was convincing enough, or got to them at their lowest point.

Get your hands off my friends, for the love of god.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I hate that in their arguments to destroy biological sex they constantly resort to Diogenes' chicken:

You say a man has a penis and a women has a vagina, huh? What about the girl born without a vagina? Does that make her a boy? Hmm? Hmm?

Plato says humans are furless bipeds, huh? So I guess according to Plato plucked chickens are humans!

Spoiler: Behold, a woman!

The way they reduce everything to superficialities is what gets me. A troon is a woman because spinny dress fake vagina mantits teehee! and that's it. No introspection, just the fetishisation of externalities. An cargo-cult level of obsession with the apeing the appearance of the desired thing, which they can never truly emulate.

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

Cultural influence and lust for power. I would be happy to ignore them completely - and I was doing so before Keffals and Fong-Jones alliance - if they only stopped trying to insert themselves everywhere.

 

[Ronnie McNutt]

they shouldn't even exist in a healthy civilization as if surgery, regular medicine, daily dilation is required in order to prove you're valid real and people accept that, then something has terribly gone wrong

 

[FinnSven]

they shouldn't even exist in a healthy civilization as if surgery, regular medicine, daily dilation is required in order to prove you're valid real and people accept that, then something has terribly gone wrong

The only other thing I can think of that isn’t a birth defect or ongoing condition, are amputees who need regular checks and further surgeries.

When they try to make out that SRS is natural and the resulting “neo-vaginas” will be indistinguishable from natal vaginas, especially once the “nerves wake up”, is just outright impossible.

Whenever I have searched a google or YouTube search for science supporting transgender via biology, the alleged explanations are always focused on feelings, with occasional mentions of “female brain”.

It’s actually worse objectively than Flat Earth evidence. At least a number of flat earthers make an attempt, however horribly wrong, ill researched and misinformed, to explain their scientific theories.

Could it be that the trans advocates know that there is no credible supporting scientific evidence for their claims?

 

[Art Corvalay]

The only other thing I can think of that isn’t a birth defect or ongoing condition, are amputees who need regular checks and further surgeries.

When they try to make out that SRS is natural and the resulting “neo-vaginas” will be indistinguishable from natal vaginas, especially once the “nerves wake up”, is just outright impossible.

It's funny that I've seen a few troons make fun of Chris's idiotic thinking when talking about his "unclit", but it's no more delusional and there's no more in the way of magical thinking there than with most troons when it comes to their "neo-vagina" surgery

 

[oopsie doodle]

They tried to take down the site where I laugh at retards on the internet and cheered when they stupidly thought it was gone forever. That alone is reason enough that I wouldn't even bitch about the resulting air pollution if their so-called genocide got turned into reality.

 

[OneMillionRPM]

As I go through this thread, I am really struggling to see any sort of "hate" in any sense that you would have seen in a person from the 40's or 50's. Yeah there are some out there but overall you gent's really are just people that want to not have something shoved down your throat at every turn and then somehow be labeled something when you are not 110% fawning over them.

This thread makes me wish I was good at writing. I'd love to take all the issues people have brought up here and compile them into a nifty little document, something to show that the opposition to trannies comes from all kinds of people, not just right-wingers. Push back against the strawman trannies have built.

But that assumes anyone will even get a chance to read it. Knowing our luck, if it's convincing enough then it'd get banned faster than Christchurch footage.

 

[Ogbomosho]

I hate the disingenuousness of the activists. They make demands for "trans-rights", but when you press them on what this means, it turns out to be special entitlements to cross boundaries set up to protect females. They demand "medical care", by which they mean a doctor destroying and disrupting their completely healthy human anatomy and body chemistry, forcing those doctors to violate their basic oaths. They say that legislators are trying to kill them, but they're really just threatening to harm themselves if they don't get their way. The overdramatic victim complex reaches its insane heights when the word "genocide" is mentioned.

They've also convinced a large segment of the population that they are a protected category now at the frontier of the civil rights movement, which has just empowered these delusional narcissists and captured far too much political attention.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

I'm sure someone else mentioned it already, but the double think.
"I'm being my authentic self!"

>gets thousands and thousands of dollars worth of surgeries that barely change anything aside from a new amhole/rotdog

Being "authentic" as a tranny is to remain as you already are, because you know you can't change chromosomes and know you're mentally ill.
Being truly authentic? Being yourself in a way that doesn't fundimentally change you as a person. Changing sex IS changing one of the most core parts of your being, you're changing into something you never grew up as, or were treated as. Dylan was a perfect example on his Machu Pichu trip. No woman, no matter how safe they view the place, will travel 100% by themselves to a place they've never been before. They will usually at the very least go with a group of people that are also exploring, a partner, or a guide. The only exceptions would probably be women who fight for a living like boxers, mma players, military, etc.
It is not safe to be a woman on your own in a foreign place, and none of the people in the comments express concern for him like they would a natal woman. Go to any insta with a girl by herself and you'll see at least 5 going "are you with someone? Are you safe?"
You really don't realize the intricacies of the opposite sex, same goes for TIFs. To be a man, in my understanding, is to be the heavy lifter of everything. Physically, emotionally, you aren't really accepted as a man if you show too much emotion (which is bogus but whatever) you won't be thanked for "something a man should do anyway", you will be rejected for trivial reasons and there isn't a single thing you can do about it.

Being a woman is hard because of the harsh judgements on physical appearance and living every day with a wary eye in case of danger, knowing if a man tried to pull anything, there's very little you can do about it. The social ladder for women is complex and ever winding.
Being a man is hard because you are essentially verbally and emotionally abused by other people and expected to take it on the chin. Something bothering you? Swallow it. Don't be a pussy. Hard day? Tough.
Afraid? Why are you a little bitch?
Etc, etc. You will also be much less appreciated by people.
Neither is easy, both have their own struggles and neither is easier than the other. They're both difficult in their own ways with their own perks, but those perks don't carry over well.

 

[Argos]

Because it is a lie.

I am supposed to ignore my dignity and my safety and my feelings to in favor of theirs. I'm supposed to ignore my lived experience and my instincts make a bunch people unable or unwilling to accept reality feel better about themselves. And they want to change laws to force me to.

 

[majorplayer]

echoing what many have said here: YNBAW.

No matter what they say or shame people to believe in, biology fucking matters. We still celebrate motherhood at hospitals when babies are born, and in the absence of the PC crowd MOTHER and WOMAN have meanings in this life. They claim it's a social construct but if you poke even a small amount, they want all the rights and responsibilities (and privilege) of being their selected gender, no matter what their fucked up version of it is.

I wish the trans people, like the furries before them, would JUST BE TRANS and sit around in their little echo chambers and suck each other off. But they join the feminists and the pinko commies aligned with them to have to ruin EVERYTHING for their own selfish bullshit feelings. The ironic part is when the revolution does come they will die first.

 

[Going Grand Autismo]

Majority of my gripes have already been said by many in this thread, e.g., cult behavior, obsession with children, holier than thou attitude, double standards, etc.

I would like to add that troons' entire existance is an insult to mankind. Not to mention they are visually assaulting and seeing them in the wild and groomercord servers (shocker) with their levels of cringe just disgusts me.

"OMG I wanna be like (insert anime girl) fr fr uwu kawaii~"

Troonicide rates need to increase from 41% to 105%.

 

[AWizard]

They're a distraction (with real consequences), a part of the culture war, while the cost of living continues to increase and basic living standards drop. They're useful idiots.

For me personally, they're another nail in the geek culture coffin. The worst part is that they're not even outsiders to geek culture, the rot came from within.