Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

[FunPosting101]

Simply put: Men are men and women are women. If you were born with XY chromosomes, you are not a woman. If you were born with XX chromosomes, you are not a man. To say otherwise is to willfully deny actual physical reality in favor of ideology; there is no room for subjectivity here, you are either one or the other in 99.9% of cases.

I refuse to engage with this sort of idiotic nonsense for the above reason alone. That troons tend to be twisted deviants; (and I say that as a guy who's kinda perverted himself) is just more reason to not want to put up with their bullshit.

TL;DR Attention whoring is not a sexuality.

 

[Asian tech support]

Not so much the troons themselves but rather the lack of personal integrity that allows one to indulge the troon fantasy as a reality is what I take issue with the most. I try my best to be truthful at all times, maintaining as much personal integrity as possible in an effort to maintain an ethical position. Of course I'm human so I fail from time to time. If I am striving to be honest and ethical, I cannot take part in the delusion that the troon is anything more than a mentally ill man and anyone doing so is doing soceity a disservice that cannot be understated. It's the same courtesy I'd extend to, say, a friend who is messing up their life with drugs or get rich quick schemes and expecting positive reinforcement. That friend needs you to set them straight, not indulge their delusions.
The tranny thing is very similar to Dr. Malone's mass formation psychosis phenomena surrounding the coof. Obviously trannies are a fucking blight.

 

[AgendaPoster]

You see someone who is gay and they tell you they like cock for whatever reason and you can take them at their word

No you most certainly do not take them at their word. People lie all the damn time and for multiple reasons.
Sexual attraction is measurable, we have EEGs, blood flow, blood pressure, heart rate and a lot of metrics. When lots of people claim one thing, in this case, "I am getting aroused at the sight of seeing the same sex naked/engaged in same sex activity", it's inevitable that some of them will lie.
That is also true of heterosexuality, btw. Some "normal" heterosexuals likely also lie, and repress their gay attractions.
TL;DR don't trust what people tell about themselves until you can verify. If you cannot, such is life. You might be courteous enough to not tell them in their face you're suspicious, but deep inside your mind, you should always remain skeptical of what stories people tell.

 

[JamusActimus]

I think the troon shit is full of prejudice.

Like it's fine if you're an effeminate straight/bi/gay guy no need to take disgusting hormones, cut your dick off and install fake boobs.
It's fine if you're a tomboy straight/bi/lesbian woman no need to cut off your boobs and install a meat sausage.

I also hate enablers. The parents and the medical system mainly.

 

[Clown]

An overwhelming majority of the people who are claiming to be trannies are body dysmorphic autistic teens and adults who grew up feeling their body didn't fit in with others of their own sex, very often having some form of weight issue or having physical attributes that may not be 100% the most enjoyable for their biological sex like a micropenis or no tits that they've become hyperfixated on, and rather than seek therapy and support for helping improve their own body confidence they instead pull the "heh, well kiddo, i'm actually not a guy/girl, but actually [pointless tranny label]! respect my identity, because i don't" card. There are also some pretty horrific trannies who are just sex-addled nympho pests who are taking advantage of the current progressive societal views towards trannies to live their andro/gynophilia to the max without the risk of consequence.

One thing I've noticed across almost all trannies is that they absolutely fucking stink. Like, anyone in their immediate presence has to endure their unwashed, stale body odour that they've deluded themselves into thinking it makes them smell like the sex they'll never be. This isn't even a TiM thing, I've met multiple TiFs who fail to properly wash themselves and just end up inevitably smelling like BO and must all hours of the day; its like do they have no self respect?

No, they don't have self respect. If they had self respect, they wouldn't be claiming to be troons to escape their own body confidence issues.

 

[ABE LINN COHN]

I dunno man, I just get this kind of evil aura coming off of them. They seem like the type to disregard any kind of moral law that doesn't benefit them. Same thing with the rest of the LGBTQIIAP sandwich.

 

[thyme]

That they try to make their suicide ideation everyone else's problem. There are kids who want to kill themselves over real chronic diseases and all that gets in the news is applaud for shit like MAID instead of policy changes like the trans losers
They're little fkn terrorists who need to suck it up and grow the fuck up so they stop falling for schemes where they're used as pawns for evil. Like they thrive on hatred

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

No you most certainly do not take them at their word. People lie all the damn time and for multiple reasons.
Sexual attraction is measurable, we have EEGs, blood flow, blood pressure, heart rate and a lot of metrics. When lots of people claim one thing, in this case, "I am getting aroused at the sight of seeing the same sex naked/engaged in same sex activity", it's inevitable that some of them will lie.
That is also true of heterosexuality, btw. Some "normal" heterosexuals likely also lie, and repress their gay attractions.
TL;DR don't trust what people tell about themselves until you can verify. If you cannot, such is life. You might be courteous enough to not tell them in their face you're suspicious, but deep inside your mind, you should always remain skeptical of what stories people tell.

You make a valid point, however if someone tells me that they are gay, I am unlikely to think too hard about what else they got going on in their mind.

You see a troons and you think the worst automatically. This is really what I should have said as that's what I had I Mind when I was typing this.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It has taken multiple of my friends and acquaintances and turned them into monomaniacal, sex-obsessed perverts who can only ever talk about sex, porn, "gender euphoria", how much they want to kill everyone to the right of mao, and how they're about to be genocided by literal nazis. These used to be individuals with dreams and ambitions, hobbies and social lives, who ran the gamut of experiences and interests, but now everything they do always revolves around being a troon.

 

[Mr Processor]

Troons are severely mentally ill people. Modern society knows this, but rather treat them as people who need psychiatric care, the solution is drugs that don't help them and elective surgery that doesn't help them. I'm not super compassionate toward troons, I'll admit. But for the sake of the people coming in contact with them, I'd prefer they got actually helpful psychiatric care rather than what society is currently doing to them.

Worse, of course, is that troonism somehow became trendy and fashionable. This means that people without the "transgender" mental illness have gotten caught up in it, some of whom are sadly children. When it goes out of fashion, we'll have a bunch of people who started as mentally ill (or got brainwashed into being mentally ill), and then had it exacerbated by dangerous drugs and useless surgery. What will these people do? I think some of them will murder 9 year olds as we've seen already.

 

[Risky Horse Business]

I think my real issue is the castration of young adults who haven't even had sex with another person. It's lunacy.


No, you know what, even if they've fucked every sailor in town, I still don't think they should be castrated. They are all mental, all feeding into this insane mass delusion.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

Whole heartedly agree with your sour sentiment on their stubborn will to live a lie. What's sad is that their entire identity is so enmeshed in lies that they can't even fathom deviating from the lie. Subconsciously they know the truth, no matter the commitment or delusion level there's some little truth mite gnawing away in their mind somewhere. The issue is that our entire society operates on lies, starting with the lie that is our money, when you transact in lies you open the door to every lie imaginable; If every transaction from the outset is devoid of honesty does that not facilitate and encourage lying as a basic form of function? The average person has no idea of the façade they participate in, they can't even articulate the lies they see the government, media, or society writ large committing or complicity condoning. They can sense the deceit, the mendacious air that hangs over the whole of our little world, but to put their finger on it is beyond the pale.

I hate it
I hate it
I hate it

Speaking the truth gets you labeled a freak, a clown, a fool. You will be rejected and derided at every corner, and you will lose opportunities you didn't even know you had simply for speaking the truth. The funny thing is that our society is so heavily saturated in this dishonest filth that the popular trope of "speaking truth to power" can't even be effected because doing so would in effect appear to be you screaming nonsense at no one, and yet doing so would still garner the ire of a solid majority of people. Charlatans will scream endlessly slogans of deceit at those they deem totally against their cause, only to watch said powers and entities maneuver to placate them as swiftly as a bureaucratic shithole can possibly do so, then still have the gall to say to everyone that they were the underdog the entire time.

 

[Pitere pit]

They are ugly as beating your mum on mother's day.
Also they complicate things on our fucked up bureaucracy.
Minor pl, but my sis is a lawyer, since the self Id law was passed in my country she got more angry since our justice system is absolutely paralized. A troon can change its sex while a poor worker have to wait years to perceive a dime from our state because they can't work due to their disability.
And that comes from my next point, they suck up recourses from my country while not contributing anything. They are parasites, full stop. All these surgeries are paid by true and honest workers, and what we do we get? Degeneracy and suicides. Meanwhile, blind, deaf and disabled people have to wait an eternity to be paid by the government that they have contributed since they were teenagers.
And to end this joke, most of these troons are commies, in a true commie state they would be sent to asylums because they are a bourgeois degeneracy.
Tldr: they are ugly and lazy.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Not so much the troons themselves but rather the lack of personal integrity that allows one to indulge the troon fantasy as a reality is what I take issue with the most. I try my best to be truthful at all times, maintaining as much personal integrity as possible in an effort to maintain an ethical position. Of course I'm human so I fail from time to time. If I am striving to be honest and ethical, I cannot take part in the delusion that the troon is anything more than a mentally ill man and anyone doing so is doing soceity a disservice that cannot be understated. It's the same courtesy I'd extend to, say, a friend who is messing up their life with drugs or get rich quick schemes and expecting positive reinforcement. That friend needs you to set them straight, not indulge their delusions.
The tranny thing is very similar to Dr. Malone's mass formation psychosis phenomena surrounding the coof. Obviously trannies are a fucking blight.

This is what I talked about in the O.P. You look at them, they are fundamentally weak and directionless creatures that just throw a shit fit when they don't get what they want. It's really pathetic. They can't take any criticism and they cant not show up and shit on your living room floor and scream about it. This level of delusion and double think is ridiculous.

 

[Dysnomia]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: that they think they're the only people with real gender.
If you're born with a vagina, you weren't born female, you were just assigned female at birth and society conditioned you to think you're a girl and then woman. Gender's just a made up social construct man, tear that shit down!

But if someone born with a penis identifies as a woman, she was born that way! Society can't make you trans, that's a hateful lie, their gender is very real, and very valid, don't you dare say it's "pretend" or "made up!"

This is a huge part of their disordered thinking. AFAB/AMAB, which are in reality are the very real sexes the doctor announced in the delivery room, are just like little peel off stickers to trannies. Underneath the sticker is the totally real and valid me! I'm living my truth!

Well I am a woman and you will never be me. You cannot live my life or have my experiences. We aren't sisters. You are a man. When I see a man clomping around dressed as a hot mess in ill fitting women's clothing it makes me very uncomfortable. Because you can just tell it's so wrong. It's a masquerade.

Remember that meme about offensive Halloween costumes? We're a culture not a costume? That's how I unironically feel now. For trannies being a woman is akin to a Barbie LARP. Men cannot get away with dressing like women. the clothes are not meant to hang on a masculine body. It's why 99% of them cannot pass. The body is a sure giveaway. You've got to be a 5'1" 90 lbs Thai ladyboy to even hope to pass. And that's just a sliver of hope. Well until the surprise penis pops out. A towering lumberjack with a five o'clock shadow that just raided the juniors section at Target is going to clock male and everyone who is forced to call him "ma'am" is very uncomfortable and hoping they don't get fired or ostracized from society for misgendering this beautiful and delicate flower of womanhood who has the strength to crush their skull.

We've all seen the infamous It's "ma'am!" video. Real women, for the most part, wouldn't act like that. It's only the most ghetto and trashiest of women (real not girldick) who would have that kind of violent outburst in public. Women in general tend to shy away from acting in a manner that is that embarrassing because they don't want to look like some trashy ghetto bitch. And even then it's not going to be a very masculine display.

So trannies with manrage, if you are real women living your truth and I'm supposed to see you as women, you are acting like the lowest common denominator of women. Ghetto tier trash. And I don't associate with that grade of woman. No decent woman would.

 

[The Ugly One]

They are forcing the entire world to participate in their fetish.

 

[crinklefry]

What other illness is there where the "cure" is affirming their beliefs. When an anorexic is so convinced theyre an obese fatass, despite having a bmi of like 12, do we give them appetite suppressants to affirm their beliefs? Do we let them get liposuction so they can truly feel skinny? Fucking of course not. What about people with BIID, do we allow them to use handicapped resources because they truly feel like they are disabled? Do we allow these people to amputate themselves?
So why is it any different when a guy or girl just FEELS like they are the opposite gender. They feel it in their brain dood!! So instead of saying "No, you were not born in the wrong body" We shove body altering chemicals into them and perform mengele-esque surgeries on them. And they still aren't even the opposite sex at that point, and never will be

 

[$80 Nude Haircut]

My problem isn't that they're lying, it's that they are demanding everyone else lie. It's literally totalitarian.

This one deserves some more thought:

 

[OneMillionRPM]

There's enough unfalsifiable and self-contradictory bullshit in their ideologies to make a fundamentalist blush. And yet people just go with it, even the people who were railing against creationists and such 10+ years ago, because they don't want to look like a bad guy or they have a vested interest in them (e.g. they're an awkward nerd and trannies are the closest they'll get to sex with an actual woman).

Plus they've managed to make themselves look more victimized than real women, black people, gays, and other groups that have faced genuine problems. And this is because the earliest trannies in our current wave (circa early 2010s) were net-savvy men with plenty of time to infiltrate online groups and complain about their so-called oppression, more time than anyone else has had to talk about their real issues.

What other illness is there where the "cure" is affirming their beliefs. When an anorexic is so convinced theyre an obese fatass, despite having a bmi of like 12, do we give them appetite suppressants to affirm their beliefs? Do we let them get liposuction so they can truly feel skinny? Fucking of course not. What about people with BIID, do we allow them to use handicapped resources because they truly feel like they are disabled? Do we allow these people to amputate themselves?
So why is it any different when a guy or girl just FEELS like they are the opposite gender. They feel it in their brain dood!! So instead of saying "No, you were not born in the wrong body" We shove body altering chemicals into them and perform mengele-esque surgeries on them. And they still aren't even the opposite sex at that point, and never will be

Their argument for this is that it's literally conversion therapy for a doctor not to humor a tranny's delusions. Blame them latching on the gay rights movement and hijacking its concepts for themselves.

 

[Layton Mysteries]

Mine is how most all of them of them behave combined with their dissavory underlying motivations. They have no regard for anyone elses lifes or lifestyles but want their own to be completely propped up and placed beyond criticism. Look at how most of them react to trans-widows, they just do not give half a crap or sympathise at all. They think that if any man at any time develops a fetish for this crap then he should instantly be allowed to act on it without any regard for how it effects anyone else, or really without any regard for his past self. So many times a man will live a healthy life with a wife and children then suddenly have a mental break and want to immerse himself into this fetish. Troons just encourage it because they recognise him in themselves, and say that no he should never be questioned and he should be respected as a woman. It is just insanity to think that a man who has lived as a man for years, even having kids with his wife as a man, was somehow mentally secretly a woman the whole time??? That idea is the breaking point for me.
When I thought it was just oh some people have these dysphoric feelings due to the brain not matching up with the body or whatever at a young age and end up transitioning after, I thought it was a little odd but thought oh yeah maybe that many people really feel like that. But then seeing 50 year old men claim that same thing like Bruce Jenner is just rediculous. That prompted me to investigate more into the cases of younger people suddenly transitioning and then I found that 99% of the time that either seems to be due to external pressure (ie Jazz Jennings), fetishisticly motivated as well, or due to childhood abuse.