Off-Topic What is YOUR fundamental issue with troons outside of their batshittery.

[The Foxtrot]

That none of them are functional members of society. They're all people that, 50 years ago, would have either starved to death in the streets or rotted in an institution. And they are people that, today, leech my tax dollars while actively destroying my way of life.

I, as a regular Proletarian man, am told I must endure and suffer the existence of a bunch of mentally deranged, feral, porn addicted creatures, because they are a protected class, while doing nothing to deserve society's protection.

What blood has a troon ever shed in real service to its nation? What sweat has a troon ever wiped off its brow during a day of hard, honest work? What tears has a troon ever cried after coming home from a shitty day at work, hoping that enough hard days at work will lead to a better life? When has a troon ever demonstrated genuine love and care towards another living thing? When has a troon ever gone out of its way, selflessly, with no thought for personal gain or repayment, to perform a deed to help someone else purely because it is the right thing to do?

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

They're probably the best rebuttal to the "you do you" mentality I can think of.

Even as a libertarian, I recognized them as a threat to other peoples' rights and freedoms.

Not only is it not loving or kind to allow someone to wallow in their degeneracy and destroy themselves, they desperately need to drag everyone else down with them so they're not alone in their misery. Anything that reminds them that they will never be true and honest members of the opposite sex causes them intense emotional pain, so they try to destroy the source of that pain whenever possible.

Which means, of course, they will stop at nothing to infringe on other peoples' rights in order to force them to affirm them in their delusions.

While many libertarians and liberals might bawk at forcing a troon to accept the sex they were born with, under pain of institutionalization, the fact is, that's probably the LEAST tyrannical and statist option available when it comes to troons. They pose a danger to themselves and other people simply by being troons, they absolutely must be cured against their will, just like we do with schitzos or people with eating disorders.

 

[The Foxtrot]

While many libertarians and liberals might bawk at forcing a troon to accept the sex they were born with, under pain of institutionalization, the fact is, that's probably the LEAST tyrannical and statist option available when it comes to troons. They pose a danger to themselves and other people simply by being troons, they absolutely must be cured against their will, just like we do with schitzos or people with eating disorders.

This is why it boggles the mind when troons try to pretend they're Communists/Socialists.
Actual Socialists, men like Ernst Thälmann, Ho Chi Minh, Vladimir Lenin, or Kim Il-sung, who loved their nations, they'd simply point to troons as an example of bourgeois degeneracy, as an example of a habit and culture that only a sick, exploitative capitalistic society could create and sustain. Troons would be among the very first to get lined up and shot, or sent to the labor camps.

As you very astutely put it, forcibly institutionalizing and curing them is the least bad, most beneficial (for them) outcome. Because the least bad, most beneficial outcome for society as a whole is simply executing them, and I'd argue most people nowadays would either cheer for it, or they wouldn't lift a finger or say a word against it.

 

[doodoocaca]

It's the timecube of identity fucking everyone else up too, mostly.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

This is why it boggles the mind when troons try to pretend they're Communists/Socialists.
Actual Socialists, men like Ernst Thälmann, Ho Chi Minh, Vladimir Lenin, or Kim Il-sung, who loved their nations, they'd simply point to troons as an example of bourgeois degeneracy, as an example of a habit and culture that only a sick, exploitative capitalistic society could create and sustain. Troons would be among the very first to get lined up and shot, or sent to the labor camps.

As you very astutely put it, forcibly institutionalizing and curing them is the least bad, most beneficial (for them) outcome. Because the least bad, most beneficial outcome for society as a whole is simply executing them, and I'd argue most people nowadays would either cheer for it, or they wouldn't lift a finger or say a word against it.

Hell, I was the one who wrote that essay on why transgenderism is bullshit, from all four quadrants of the political compass.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

My problem is that almost all of them act like they are special and will stop at nothing to shove their lifestyle down everyone else's throats. Almost nobody wants anything to do with this but can't escape it.

So much this.

Back when the community was mostly L, G, and B with relatively few T, most of the group wanted to be accepted for who they were and be productive, respected people without regard to their sexual attractions which mostly stayed discreet. With the trannies largely taking over the community, they have now become as "in your face" and confrontational about their trans status and intimate sexual detail while offering little if any reason to accept and respect them as individuals. Even some of the most accepting people get turned off by that because people's sex lives are generally considered a taboo topic except in the most limited of circumstances.

They claim to be victims of oppression but have stopped at nothing to silence those who don't agree with them.

It's scary how in general a very vocal minority can silence and cancel anyone they wish without impunity.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

personally i take no issue with people doing what they enjoy and being themselves. hell if a guy told me he enjoyed wearing dresses i would be entirely fine with that because he is not hurting anyone and he is doing something he enjoys and to me there is no problem with that. now if he started demanding to be called she instead of he thats when the issues begin because they are a man they may enjoy wearing dresses but they are and will always be a man. troons lie to themselves and the world about what they are and just expect everyone to go along with it or else.

 

[Grand Omega]

The obsession with trooning kids out. It's a fad that they might grow out of, but their bodies will be completely and irreparably trashed. Rather than having embarrassing memories from an awkward phase, a much more devastating reality lies in wait for these individuals.

 

[Fornicario]

My issues with them are numerous. I don't agree with this idea they have that they must become women/men at any cost, just don't make them pay. I already have a problem with my tax dollars paying for Viagra, and each of these freaks cost a shitload more than penis pills. These are also highly experimental procedures treated as a bolt on or LASIK surgery. It used to be a tranny spent years being told how drastic and irreversible these procedures would be. Now these butchers advertise on TikTok with cutesy little phrases instead of what it actually is. Finally, when these nutjobs get chopped up on my dollar, I'm supposed to treat them with kid gloves because they were so fucking stupid they didn't consider that shit didn't work out like they wanted when God was involved, how does a surgeon with a knife fix it?

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Hell, I was the one who wrote that essay on why transgenderism is bullshit, from all four quadrants of the political compass.

That was top fucking notch sir. Thank you for this.

 

[The Hoh Rainforest]

They are the terminal endpoint of feelings over facts. Civilization cannot accommodate them and survive, because it requires giving up a consensus reality.

 

[Jacinthe]

They're lying, manipulative cunts who demand asspats and special treatment for willingly disabling themselves.

Also, the TiMs demanding dating/sex from someone who is very muchly not interested in mutilated men.

No, "Ashlynn", your inverted cock is not as good or better than the real thing. It looks like you took a running chainsaw and sat on it. I ain't touching that with a ten foot pole. Get out of my house.

 

[Stupid Lisa Garbageface]

Most of them just set off “predator” alarm bells in my caveman brain. I dislike them for the same reason I dislike snakes. Inherently a danger to me and my loved ones.

Every troon I’ve ever met in my life has only reinforced this prejudice.

(I actually like snakes and think they’re neat but you get the point)

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

You are telling me that you are something you are not and this is a lie.

it's worse than lying, they want to literally gaslight/catfish straight dudes into fucking them and that's just rape

bunch of fucking psychopaths

 

[8mm Cunningham]

They are a manifestation of postmodern relativism. This is the belief (excuse the gross oversimplification) that everyone can have a "my truth is valid" without any absolutes. Society cannot function or progress like this. Funnily enough, this allows those in the 'woke olympics' to police language, thought, and muh kiwifarms.

Finally, their pursuit of indoctrinating kids like evangelical christians makes me want to fedpost (in the metaverse).

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

That they are so selfish and narcissistic that they are willing to destroy strangers, children's lives, relationships between the sexes, Western values, science, and history and the bloody fabric of the societies they depend on for gibs, JUST to feed their own ego and boners/rotdogs.

I cannot fucking stand selfishness like that in any form. And troons made it sexual and gross just to be even more abhorrent. TTD forever.

Their existence requires the violation of others.

Well said.

 

[cypocryphy]

Simply, gender identity isn't a real thing and we're all forced to play pretend with retarded , porn addicted adults.

 

[Counterfeit Obol]

A mix between their inappropriate behavior towards children and their willingness to become slaves to big pharma for asspats.

 

[Strangolapreti]

Aside of them being leftoids and their obsession with children, I think I would put how unhealthy being a troon is, both physically and mentally.
The fact that many troons hqve a limited emotional range is also fucked up, especially considering that the whole thing is a massive cope to deny it wasn't just a fetish.

 

[Inside your walls]

My first fundamental issue with tranny shit is that this movement exploiting both young boys, girls, men and women with mental issues such as autism by selling them lies that their life will improve if they start chugging on cocktail of pharma drugs and mutilate themselves, and through that process they become pharma's eternal paypiggy.

My second fundamental issue with it is the fact that 99% of AGP trannies view not only mine, but other women's life
experiences and womanhood as some twisted degrading experience and that are our lives are that of some porn movie that they
jacked off to. Also the fact that their primitive and misogynistic perspective and stereotypes of women is applauded by others.

Third is obvious fixation on children and my general belief that humans shouldn't be playing God with
trying to alter our bodies like this.

Fourth is what most people mentioned in this thread, forcing others to live their lie.

Fifth is them uprooting every community, wherever it's male-oriented (such as tech), female (such as fashion/makeup)
or circle where both men and women participate in (such as video games).

I could go on, but I think I'll stop here.