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this is how you know the writers are out of touch
This. They're not creative at all. They're nepotistic. They want more money, more power and more influence. They're nothing more than middle-aged people who are desperate to act as if they're hip and cool with the core audiences they're targeting, just like some old middle school science teacher.
 
The fags on Twitter are going gaga over the latest molly mcgee episode where Andrea says she planned on marrying a woman when she's older. Half are saying she's joined the Disney lesbian club (with amity blythe and Sasha waybright though only amity is confirmed a full on lesbo) the other half are saying she's shown interest in boys before so she must be bi, pan, queer whatever buzzword they can dredge up.


Can't this just BE a show about a girl and her best friend being a dead guy? It was admitably one line in an episode all about how the future isn't set in stone nor is who you are as a person. Andrea pretty much loses her family fortune and daddy's money so she tries to reinvent herself and discover who she is.
Here's the two people who worked on that episode btw...
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And they're both Lesbians as well.
 
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If it wasn't for Crowley this would have been an episode about changing yourself and finding your sense of identity. Bet you dollars to doughnuts (which Crowley clearly can't stop eating) Crowley was the one who pressured the shows creators (who last I checked aren't clean either but they don't WANT to shoehorn in crap like this) into adding that line and scene in, Well Andrea Davenport, you went from a regular old 13 year old to a troon diddlers fetish material and I'm sorry that happened to you, but it coukd have been worse...this is still nowhere near as bad as what danna Terrance did to amity blythe.
 
>shares her name with a demon
finally some real proof that the opposition is satanic

joking aside, it never ceases to amaze me how the people who constantly complain about things like stereotypes and consistent norms nonetheless fall into such blatantly obvious caricature personalities of themselves and their sexualities regardless
 
shares her name with a demon
If you mean Crowley and alastor Crowley he wasn't a demon. He was the ''mad arab" who supposedly discovered and translated the necronomicon from Aramaic to Arabic then finally to English.


they're both Lesbians as well.
OK at least one of them HAS to be a Troon. The one who is took the Kevin gibes logic and trooned out and identify as lesbians because they thought it would get them all the lesbian poon they could want. And that's not the case they by some twisted miracle are born female the only reason. They didn't male andrea a full on lesbo was so the coomers would stil be satisfied...given how they're the second biggest audience for modern Disney TV animation behind libtards.
 
So this is all speculation but the way I see it.

A. The creators convinced Crowley and king to downplay Andreas "coming out" because while they may not be immune to wokeshit they at least know to NOT have that be the focal points of your main characters or you risk isolating an audience. (They'll happily create token secondary characters to claim hitting representation quotas though)

B. As much as Crowley and king are repulsed by them they agreed on making andrea "queer" and not full on "lesbos" (quote because again one or both of them have to to be troons) because they know coomers are gamm only other audience. As much as it repulsed them they reluctantly agreed to let the coomer have their "pleasure waifus." While still being more to their side of the fence. The went with queer and bi or pan because those terms don't generate twitter buzz anymore.

C. Any combination of A+B=C think of it like Pythagorian theirum only gayer.
 
Castlevania is genuinely one of the worst writen, worst paced, most boring shows I have ever laid eyes upon and I genuninely cannot fathom how this shit got this popular.

The first season is fine (I mean its only 3 episodes how hard could they possibly fuck it up even if they tried) but the second season completely drops the ball beyond all reason.

This is supposed to be a show about vampire hunters and 90% of season 2 is wasted on shitty fucking courtroom drama between dracula and his warlords in the war room.

I shit you not, the viking vampire side character has more screentime in season 2 than the PROTAGONIST, only for said vampire to be unceremoniously killed off by the black gay guy into bdsm.

A regular ass human took out a vampire warlord with a belt? I'm sorry what? Even exclusing how retarded this is, why the did you waste 5 episodes on him then? Did we genuinely need FIVE episodes exploring a side character who's only purpose was to receive the equivallent of an offscreen death for all the significance it had?

I straight up stopped watching when the undead reanimated godless vampire priest somehow was holy enough to bless the river for whatever retarded reason the writers conjured up.

And the whole premise of the show doesn't even make sense. Why does dracula need fifty fucking warlords by his side when humans are literally physically incapable of doing anything against his army other than kneeling over and dying? There's no resistance, organized or disorganized, humans just die without fighting back.

This isn't a war, its an extermination campaign, you don't need 50 exterminators to take out an ant nest when the ants literally can't even comprehend what is happening.

The entire political drama rings completely hollow because there are literally 0 fucking stakes. It is impossible for the vampires to fail killing the humans so who gives a shit about them bitching about it AND WHY are they being so dramatic about it?

This show is just so schirophrenic man, season 1 had a good setup, dracula is out there, he started the apocalypse and we have a monk, a hunter and a half vampire out to get him, its good, its simple and it can move forward a million ways.

Then season 2 introduces like 80 fucking characters and wastes half its time on either flashbacks, meaningless bullshit (yeah that montage of the viking rampaging was really meaningful and had huge bearing on the plot considering he dies an episode later for no reason), retarded warroom politics while the main plot gets put by the wayside so we can explore the writer's shitty OCs.

And this isn't even touching on how hillariously anti religion and anti christian this show is.

I'm sorry but I don't see how people watch this show without falling asleep. It doesn't have enough action to keep action fans happy and its not even remotely well writen enough to for people who like political intrigue, can some kiwis enlighten me here?
 
If you mean Crowley and alastor Crowley he wasn't a demon
that's just what you think

(no, I meant the Crowley from Good Omens because i've been watching the new TV series and finished the book recently.)
I saw a shipping truck with the name plastered on it going down the highway today, too, and met someone irl with the last name shortly after. very strange.

Castlevania is genuinely one of the worst writen, worst paced, most boring shows I have ever laid eyes upon and I genuninely cannot fathom how this shit got this popular.
lmao, I was wondering why discussion of the show died so suddenly outside of its fans. I remember seeing recommendations for Season 1 fucking everywhere and it took until a few days ago for me to even learn it'd gotten two more.
 
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Castlevania is genuinely one of the worst writen, worst paced, most boring shows I have ever laid eyes upon and I genuninely cannot fathom how this shit got this popular.

The first season is fine (I mean its only 3 episodes how hard could they possibly fuck it up even if they tried) but the second season completely drops the ball beyond all reason.
It's weird. I too enjoyed the first season and thought that it was a step in the right direction, but I haven't even caught on with the show until the pandemic happened and I was finding stuff to watch, and the show became garbage.
 
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Castlevania is genuinely one of the worst writen, worst paced, most boring shows I have ever laid eyes upon and I genuninely cannot fathom how this shit got this popular.

The first season is fine (I mean its only 3 episodes how hard could they possibly fuck it up even if they tried) but the second season completely drops the ball beyond all reason.

This is supposed to be a show about vampire hunters and 90% of season 2 is wasted on shitty fucking courtroom drama between dracula and his warlords in the war room.

I shit you not, the viking vampire side character has more screentime in season 2 than the PROTAGONIST, only for said vampire to be unceremoniously killed off by the black gay guy into bdsm.

A regular ass human took out a vampire warlord with a belt? I'm sorry what? Even exclusing how retarded this is, why the did you waste 5 episodes on him then? Did we genuinely need FIVE episodes exploring a side character who's only purpose was to receive the equivallent of an offscreen death for all the significance it had?

I straight up stopped watching when the undead reanimated godless vampire priest somehow was holy enough to bless the river for whatever retarded reason the writers conjured up.

And the whole premise of the show doesn't even make sense. Why does dracula need fifty fucking warlords by his side when humans are literally physically incapable of doing anything against his army other than kneeling over and dying? There's no resistance, organized or disorganized, humans just die without fighting back.

This isn't a war, its an extermination campaign, you don't need 50 exterminators to take out an ant nest when the ants literally can't even comprehend what is happening.

The entire political drama rings completely hollow because there are literally 0 fucking stakes. It is impossible for the vampires to fail killing the humans so who gives a shit about them bitching about it AND WHY are they being so dramatic about it?

This show is just so schirophrenic man, season 1 had a good setup, dracula is out there, he started the apocalypse and we have a monk, a hunter and a half vampire out to get him, its good, its simple and it can move forward a million ways.

Then season 2 introduces like 80 fucking characters and wastes half its time on either flashbacks, meaningless bullshit (yeah that montage of the viking rampaging was really meaningful and had huge bearing on the plot considering he dies an episode later for no reason), retarded warroom politics while the main plot gets put by the wayside so we can explore the writer's shitty OCs.

And this isn't even touching on how hillariously anti religion and anti christian this show is.

I'm sorry but I don't see how people watch this show without falling asleep. It doesn't have enough action to keep action fans happy and its not even remotely well writen enough to for people who like political intrigue, can some kiwis enlighten me here?
I am a huge Castlevania fanboy, I hated it. It isn't popular, it was forgotten about almost immediately. It is the habit of consumers to enjoy something and then toss it for the next jingling keys.

I watched the show to the end, almost out of total contempt. Season 3 is pointless and boring, and Season 4 is the show tripping over and over again trying to get to the finish line. In my opinion people only like it because it is well produced and has dialogue that kinda sorta sounds smart if you're looking at your phone while listening to it. The internet has made it possible so that even if something isn't good, if enough people circlejerk about it, onlookers will eventually start to think it's good.

People think this show was amazing and cool because it had a huge marketing budget, and tons of clips of action scenes are on youtube. But everything in between, the shit that wasn't advertised, is fucking garbage.

If you watched Season 2 you'd know what I mean. The protagonists literally have no impact on the plot at all, all they do is wander around the Belmont house before Dracula's castle literally lands right next to them and they walk in and kill him. There is no relationship between the protagonists or antagonists of the show, because the show is more interested in people standing around and talking.

The political BS is like someone watched Game of Thrones or House of Cards, and only took away that people tend to say something dramatic or foreboding before they do something important. Carmilla, who is set up to be a machiavellian, ruthless mastermind in season 2, does nothing for the rest of the show after her debut. She literally leashes Hector to her horse, locks him naked in her freezing castle, and then complains when he doesn't want to cooperate with her. She gives him no reason not to backstab the fuck out of her, and then we're supposed to be amazed when she dies like an idiot fighting a problem she caused. She's supposed to be manipulative, and yet couldn't be bothered to actually manipulate the guy who her entire plan hinged upon. What an amazing character.

Carmilla herself, along with several other characters, all display tendencies that leads me to believe the writer had r/deathbywords open at all times during production. Nearly ever interaction in this show feels like it is designed to be quoted by redditors or twitter users, or speculated about in youtube comments. The show is trying to be intriguing and dramatic, but the dialogue is absolutely fuck awful. No matter who's talking, no matter what's happening, characters will go on an edgy, potty mouth screed about nothing. They'll just spell out their motivations, or define a word, because this show tells and doesn't show. Showing takes money.
No matter who the character is, even if it's the final overarching antagonist, Death himself, voiced by Malcolm McDowell, he still has an edgy potty mouth. People praise that scene, it completely deflates the tension. He talks like every other character, cause fuck it, wouldn't that be funny?

I see a lot of people slinging mud at this show for being anti-christian. I'm of two minds about it. Historically, the Catholic church before the reformation happened was seen as very corrupt. In this show the church is corrupt, but holy water still damages vampires, which is never explained. The cross thing is, and it's stupid, but we never learn why actual holy stuff is harmful to vampires, nor do we learn why the morning star whip is ( I could be wrong, correct me if I am). It's disappointing and it leads me to believe this show doesn't actually have anything to say about religion. It's just nihilist trash. The church is bad with no depth because it is. We're never told why it has power or why people follow it, it's just the church and people follow the church. We're never given any reason that Trevor should be fighting the vampires, he just does it because he's the Belmont. Mankind in this show is depicted as ignorant, unpleasant, and corrupt. Chaos reigns, I am all of me.
This is incredibly disappointing from a series as gothic and poetic as Castlevania. One of the most important scenes in the entire series is Alucard's mother being burned at the stake, and her last words to her son are to forgive mankind and reform his father. Koji Igarashi wouldn't wipe his ass with this show, it has nothing to say that holds a candle to any of his dark or emotional stories.

I have no faith that Nocturne will be any good. I am fucking appalled that they are taking Richter, the objectively best Belmont, and slapping him into another setting where his youthful spirit doesn't belong. Nocturne will suck. I will cry.

The only merit to these shows is that they might invoke enough interest for a castlevania revival from Konami. Konami is a shitty company, they fucked Metal Gear, they fucked Castlevania. I can imagine some executives saw this show and said "Ha-ha! Those gaijin pig dogs will suffer once more! Hail Dagon!". Thank god I'm using my brother's netflix so I'm not actually paying for this garbo.
 
Mankind in this show is depicted as ignorant, unpleasant, and corrupt. Chaos reigns, I am all of me.
It all just screams "nothing personell kid" Coldsteel early-90s/late-2000s edgelord bullshit. I wouldn't be surprised if all of a sudden, they play some Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit shit in the middle.
 
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