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Nick brought up the Gunt situation briefly: https://youtu.be/K6iusvwZaLg?si=aqJP2FA2Gu-zMRJP
Nicholas Robert Rekieta / Rekieta "Law" / Actually Criminal / @NickRekieta - Polysubstance enthusiast, "Lawtuber" turned Dabbleverse streamer, swinger, "whitebread ass nigga", snuffs animals for fun, visits 🇯🇲 BBC resorts. Legally a cuckold who lost his license to practice law. Wife's bod worth $50. The normies even know.
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I guess making an almighty racket about Vito is one way to distract from Rackets’ literal groomer co-host.
I guess it’s also a nice cover story for Rumble declining to renew his contract. Their problem isn’t that Nick didn’t uphold his contractual obligations — they’re mad that Nick is such a stalwart freeze peach champion!
Others have mentioned that his physical condition seems very odd lately. If you’ve seen Still, the Michael J. Fox documentary, they show several clips of his TV scenes while he was still trying to conceal his Parkinson’s diagnosis. That’s what Nick reminds me of lately. Either that or the alcoholism has knocked him down a few more pegs physically. In either case, alcohol isn’t helping him.
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Holy shit. Not just mountains of cope, continents of cope.
Also, more of his "guys, I'm totally an idiot with tech and can't figure out anything!" when it's obvious that's a lie.
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Does anyone know if Nick had a falling out with Doug Tenapel or not?
Just haven't seen Dirtworm Doug around Rackets for ages?
With advances in treating such diseases, maybe someone with a serious disease like Parkinsons can keep the symptoms at bay for many years before it becomes more debilitating?
Just haven't seen Dirtworm Doug around Rackets for ages?
I can't remember if I have mentioned this previously or not, but when he said he had that worst day in his life, could he have been given a diagnosis of Parkinsons or some other degenerative disease like that, which is also why he has been rabbiting on about having only 15 good years left?
With advances in treating such diseases, maybe someone with a serious disease like Parkinsons can keep the symptoms at bay for many years before it becomes more debilitating?
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On the subject of Christ's death being divine child abuse, this is where a fundamental understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity is useful. Even if one dismisses the idea of the Trinity since the term isn't used in the Bible, Christ's claim that "I and the Father are one" should be enough to communicate that this isn't God punishing someone else for the sins of the world; this is God Himself shedding His blood for our sins.
Also, Christ knew that He was going to die, and not just because people were plotting his death. His prayer in the garden of Gethsemane shows Christ knowing that He has to die and says to the Father "Your will be done". It was the Father's will that this would come to pass and Christ, being the Son, knew that.
These aren't obscure verses either. It sounds like Nick is either terribly ignorant of the foundations of Christianity, or is looking for another way to heaven that doesn't include the gospel of Christ so Nick can pursue whatever he thinks God's "new plan(?)" is.
Catgirl Tyranid
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Firstly, the whole point of Grace is that God's infinite love for us is beyond human understanding. It's literally a fundamental truth Christian's are supposed to aspire toward even though it's not possible for us to reach it. Acknowledging a higher power than yourself, One so far beyond what you can comprehend, is a humbling experience that fundamentally changes you as a person. Upon accepting the gift of forgiveness you're saved from past and future transgressions, but you're also spiritually convicted to always do better than what you are. Every sin, every rebellion from that point on is a slip up that you're supposed to feel convicted for. It's not a sin because "herp derp" God doesn't like it, it's a sin because on SOME level whether it be toward yourself or those around you it causes a fundamental, unjustifiable harm. The closest I think I can come to describing it would be watching your spouse, or son, or daughter slit their wrists over and over again. That's why sin is repugnant to God.
Secondly, the idea that Christ's death wasn't planned doesn't make sense. From a narrative standpoint, it was foreshadowed at least as far back as Abraham and Isaac that the level of dedication God has to humanity is such that He'd be willing to sacrifice his only Son for their sake. It's probably foreshadowed even further back, but I sucked at bible school as a kid and am not well studied enough yet.
Thirdly, accepting God's forgiveness by believing He sent Jesus to die on the cross gives you a peace about the prospect of death. When you set your sights on Heaven, you have a joyful eternity to look forward to as opposed to a final stop to fear.
Edit: Sniped by a duck! That's what I get for spending extra time on stuff that isn't as important.
I'd say Drexel is muddying the waters by trying to assign motive to Null's disdain for Drexel. No one, Null included, gives a fuck about his opinion regarding Null's eyes.
Drexel had sex with a girl he had personal relationship with from her low teens despite being roughly triple her age and it's fucking disgusting.
The last painting stream I could find was on 8/31/2022.
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That guy really struck a nerve. 13 minutes of cope about how he isn't an alcoholic and how he is a good dad. He spent the whole weekend at bible camp fighting online to defend Vito the self-identifying pedo but in his mind he was spending all the time with his kids. He absolutely does not have redness in the face. Its just sunburn like he had in the middle of last winter or is it that heat rash? To be honest, much like his midnight call from the shower to bitch at null, this rant is just something alcoholics do.
The passive-aggressive bitching points more to the truth of things. He is still angry that he has to drive the kids different places during the day which is a real burden for a guy who doesn't work and lays around the house drinking all day. He is still defensive about the help he must have gotten from someone for the house, for the kids, for the stay at home wife, for his law school and for that staffed law office he had. Best of all he talks about how he had to provide money to those kids "to my own determent".
The old nick would have handled the superchats really easily and brushed them off. The new Nick is beginning to channel his rage. Nick really gave that guy his money's worth and he is likely now to encourage even more of it by having done that.
Geared Chris
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He's getting far more than he used to. At least 4-6/stream. I try to cover the stand-outs but transcribing directly is time-consuming. Additionally, at the end of YT and Rumble, he reads through them at high speed and deflects with a shrug and "Okay".
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Last sighting was June of 2022, when he had Nick and Kayla over for breakfast. That was before Nick began his dramatic nosedive.
Nick Rekieta and Lady Rackets over for breakfast!
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Doug was a part of Nick's "Chad Dads" series, but Rekieta is a very different person now. It's less talking about the joys of being a father, and more about streaming shirtless with Coomalot and talking about the joys of anime where underage girls get raped.
I'd say Doug wouldn't approve, but who knows. One of the things I learned from this sektur is that a lot of people are quick to abandon their stated principles when push comes to shove.
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It really easy in terms of how to make a pedophilia joke funny, the punchline should be that what you're saying is made out to be wrong. This is made easier if the comedian is known for making jokes that are edgy.
Take a Jimmy Carr bit when interacting with the audience in a stand up bit:
"What's your ultimate sexual fantasy? School Girl? Well, I think there's a special term for that it's called being a peado. But look at the positives, you get to be on a list, and everyone in the neighborhood knows where you live..."
Compare that to Vito:
"I'm not joking. I want to fuck kids."
The difference is very clear, Vito's version is just a statement and at no point makes the joke about the horrible nature of pedos, rather the "joke" if there even is one is that Vito is a disgusting person, to the point that it's not even self deprecating humor it's just gross.
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A couple of days ago, Doug responded to a tweet saying Rekieta stood up for him.Last sighting was June of 2022, when he had Nick and Kayla over for breakfast. That was before Nick began his dramatic nosedive.
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Nick Rekieta and Lady Rackets over for breakfast!
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Doug was a part of Nick's "Chad Dads" series, but Rekieta is a very different person now. It's less talking about the joys of being a father, and more about streaming shirtless with Coomalot and talking about the joys of anime where underage girls get raped.
I'd say Doug wouldn't approve, but who knows. One of the things I learned from this sektur is that a lot of people are quick to abandon their stated principles when push comes to shove.
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What a faggot. He's basically snaking on you and then saying "oh yeah and you can totally trust me on a forum I'm in complete control of."
Eat shit you snake prick coward.
He thinks nobody notices this too like he's some master Machiavellian. Eat shit you pussy.
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Nick seems to believe he has comedic chops. If anyone in his life thought he was open to reason, they’d correct his thinking on that score.
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Isn't Doug living in Tennessee these days? I don't' remember where exactly, and I know it's a big state. You would think if they were still close, Doug would be on the panel for the live event in Nashville, or at least on the guest+1 list. Really makes you think...Last sighting was June of 2022, when he had Nick and Kayla over for breakfast. That was before Nick began his dramatic nosedive.
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Nick Rekieta and Lady Rackets over for breakfast!
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I'd say Doug wouldn't approve, but who knows. One of the things I learned from this sektur is that a lot of people are quick to abandon their stated principles when push comes to shove.
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During this past weekend's nonsense, Mike S. Miller tried to defend Nick and he pointed to Nick having been there for Doug when Doug fell out with Comicsgate. Doug responded to that with something vague about people being there for others during a crisis.
Generally IMO Doug as abandoned everything and anything aside from doing boring and mindless Trump supporter stuff. He has got 200k subscribers on youtube and he is totally in love with his own e-celebrity. Doug saw value in Nick I think when Doug's audience was tiny and he was desperately trying to grow it. But these days, I think Doug would be more focused on interacting with and getting attention from larger players inside the pro-Trump grift-sphere.
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A clip I made about Josh and NickR
Thanks to @elb for providing the rekieta calling montagraph a pedo clip.
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Josh has been manipulated:
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Thanks to @elb for providing the rekieta calling montagraph a pedo clip.
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Nick's case is such shit he's literally losing to a lolcow despite having one of the best First Amendment lawyers alive. In fact, his case is so bad it gave his lawyer cancer.
Total Pedo War. If I had to pick between Montagraph and Nick as to who sucks little boys' dicks, well, it's not a hard choice is it?
What is wrong with him? Why would he admit his own family hates him this much? They must know stuff even we don't know about him.
Nick doesn't care about any of this. He rejects any ethical system that gets in the way of COOOOOM, the only value he has.
This is because he is a faggot.
Unless he drives around his kids while drunk off his ass, it must interrupt his drinking schedule to have to interact with them.
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He said he may stop by when in Nashville. There has been no SM interaction that I can see.
In the past I would have said he would gave him on to promote his comic, but Doug says things are too expensive now to keep publishing.
Illness and infidelity have been proposed. Also a break with family. I would add another possible reason: crisis of faith.
Nick might have just hidden his heretical views well by not speaking about them much in the first 4 years, but recently he does seem more fixated on spiritual doubt and pondering his own mortality. This could be a symptom of a bad diagnosis (of him or the family) that kicked off the libertine behaviour, but we do not currently know
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Most people facing their mortality would try to become better people. Nick decided to become a complete piece of shit.
Geared Chris
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Unrelated to anything being discussed here but thought I'd mention:
Last night Nick mentioned the hit piece WaPo (9/3) did on Kiwi. I found it without the paywall via TOR here. but you'll need to use TOR. Predictable bullshit: "Kiwi Farms evolved into a popular platform for creating harassment campaigns. Its users often fixated on transgender people, relentlessly stalking and doxing them. At least three of its victims died by suicide." It gets worse from there. Keffals is a hero, etc. I assume Null will cover it on MATI today.
I imagine this has already been posted on Kiwi but in case you missed it:
Last night Nick mentioned the hit piece WaPo (9/3) did on Kiwi. I found it without the paywall via TOR here. but you'll need to use TOR. Predictable bullshit: "Kiwi Farms evolved into a popular platform for creating harassment campaigns. Its users often fixated on transgender people, relentlessly stalking and doxing them. At least three of its victims died by suicide." It gets worse from there. Keffals is a hero, etc. I assume Null will cover it on MATI today.
I imagine this has already been posted on Kiwi but in case you missed it:
When he heard that Kiwi Farms had been knocked offline, “Clay,” a member of the anonymous online forum, was flooded with relief. “I thought to myself, ‘This hell on Earth has finally been vanquished.’”
Founded in 2013, Kiwi Farms has been used to organize vicious harassment and stalking campaigns against targets including Clara Sorrenti, a transgender activist known as Keffals, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), a far-right Republican. It went down exactly one year ago, after Cloudflare, a major tech security firm, stopped providing services, saying contributors to the forum were posting the home addresses of those seen as enemies and calling for them to be shot.
But in the week that followed, Kiwi Farms scrambled to stay alive, jumping from Russian servers to a Ukrainian hosting service to VanwaTech, a Vancouver, Wash.-based hosting and security company infamous for providing refuge to 8chan, a message board notorious for white-supremacist content. As it became increasingly clear that Kiwi Farms would not go down without a fight, “Clay” — who spoke on the condition that he be identified by a pseudonym to avoid retribution — joined forces with Liz Fong-Jones, one of Kiwi Farms’s fiercest adversaries, and launched a dogged campaign to keep the site offline.
Over the past year, their little group of internet sleuths, trans engineers and activists has methodically chased Kiwi Farms across servers and networks around the globe, successively persuading more than two dozen companies to drop the site. Despite this laborious undertaking — described exclusively to The Washington Post — the site has endured, showing up for months at a time, sometimes as a “mirror” of itself on an entirely different URL or as a foreign domain in countries such as Poland.
Fong-Jones, one of Kiwi Farms’s fiercest adversaries, has spent the past year trying to keep the site offline. (Jackie Dives for The Washington Post)
The group’s Sisyphean battle illustrates the lack of mechanisms for reporting online abuse, much less for banishing harmful content. It also raises serious doubts about society’s ability to block any site from the global web — even one that explicitly incites violence.
“Either people think Kiwi Farms is dead forever … or they think it’s up and therefore it’s going to remain up forever,” said Fong-Jones, a transgender site-reliability engineer who had been targeted by the forum. “Neither of those two narratives are true.”
Founded by Joshua Moon, a former 8chan administrator, Kiwi Farms evolved into a popular platform for creating harassment campaigns. Its users often fixated on transgender people, relentlessly stalking and doxing them. At least three of its victims died by suicide.
In response to a request for comment, Moon wrote by email, “Do you still print that rag on paper? If so, please send a physical copy of your smear piece to the PO box listed on the website so I can frame it. Thanks.”
The campaign against Kiwi Farms began in earnest last summer. Sorrenti, a Twitch streamer who became famous as a news star for trans youth, had been under attack for months by Kiwi Farms users, who she said doxed her address and “swatted” her home, filing a false crime report that drove police to her door. In August, she fled her native Canada for Europe and launched a social media campaign to pressure internet providers to stop protecting the forum, using the hashtag #DropKiwiFarms.
Clara Sorrenti, also known as Keffals, in London. (Hao Nguyen for The Washington Post)
From her home in Vancouver, Fong-Jones heard about the harassment against Sorrenti and immediately recognized the tactics.
Fong-Jones also had been targeted by Kiwi Farms beginning in 2017, when she donated to a transgender nonprofit. Users published her home address, the names of her biological parents and a redacted copy of her birth certificate in a thread that included racist and transphobic slurs. Members smeared her online in an attempt to ruin her Google search results, then sent her employers the false information.
Though the harassment had died down, Fong-Jones still felt compelled to contribute to the #DropKiwiFarms campaign. She made videos for her YouTube channel explaining Cloudflare’s complicity in keeping the site online.
Those videos soon reached Katherine Lorelei, a transgender IT worker in Norman, Okla. Lorelei had never heard of Kiwi Farms and was distraught by what she learned from Fong-Jones’s presentations.
Katherine Lorelei, a transgender IT worker in Norman, Okla. (Nick Oxford for The Washington Post)
Lorelei had been taking gender transition hormones for less than a year and had no connections to activist circles. Beyond wrangling server space, she had never worked on systems that spanned the entire internet. But she volunteered to help, starting as Fong-Jones’s assistant, before stepping up to co-lead the team.
“I had no idea I had these skills, to be honest,” Lorelei said.
The group began spending dozens of hours each week navigating the byzantine web of network infrastructure, trying to ferret out connections between no-name intermediaries to track down Kiwi Farms’s new home. Then they would send carefully worded emails to those companies’ employees — even cold-messaging on LinkedIn — to persuade them to stop working with the website.
The group operated in cells in case they were doxed but kept track of every internet provider they persuaded to cut ties with Kiwi Farms.
Moon had a few major advantages. After earlier attempts to take down the site, he incorporated as his own internet service provider, acquiring his own physical hardware, network resources and a block of IP addresses, making Kiwi Farms much more difficult to dislodge. It marks the site as a “peer” on the internet, meaning Moon directly receives any abuse reports and is entitled to a presumption of good faith.
When the team alerted FiberHub, a data center in Las Vegas, to alert the company to the bad actor using their facilities, the center said they merely provided the electricity and power cord but had no bearing on the servers that kept the site online. Those belonged to Moon’s hosting company, originally incorporated under the name Final Solutions, a Nazi reference. FiberHub did not immediately respond to request for comment.
The group slowly discovered a network of what they called “sh--hosts” — low-end internet providers who work with disreputable sites that spread malware or offensive content, arguing that they have a right to free speech.
But the group had an asset of their own.
Clay had been a member of Kiwi Farms in his teens. He was bored, seeking community, pressured by his friends and going through a libertarian phase, he said. But following the suicide of one of the site’s targets, he began to push back on the forum’s creed that its victims weren’t human. He withdrew from the site after he saw Kiwi Farms members turn their talents for doxing and harassment on other members.
His goal in joining Fong-Jones and Lorelei’s group was to help the forum’s users, he told The Post. He pointed to Frederick Brennan, the creator of 8chan who called for that site to be taken offline after it played a role in mass shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, and El Paso. Brennan, he said, “wanted to free [the] user base of that site from being radicalized, from going down a darker path. And that’s what I’m sort of doing here.”
Having Clay onboard was a game changer. One of the challenges in persuading companies that Kiwi Farms was a bad actor was the site’s opaque language. Outsiders might overlook terms such as “TTD,” which in Kiwi Farms’s vernacular means “total tr--ny death,” using a slur to refer to transgender people.
Clay could translate this language. He also could show how Kiwi Farms users migrated to Discord servers, where they were more explicit about planning attacks. He led activists to the threads most rife with racism and calls for violence. And he confirmed the trolls’ habit of using the phrase “in Minecraft” to pretend an illegal activity, such as revealing the Social Security numbers of their targets, was just something they did in the online game.
“He was the Kiwi Farms whisperer,” Fong-Jones said.
Fong-Jones had been targeted by Kiwi Farms beginning in 2017, when she donated to a transgender nonprofit. (Jackie Dives for The Washington Post)
Clay, in turn, was getting an education of his own. Fong-Jones helped him get up to speed on the “backbone” of the internet — massive networks responsible for publishing or passing along content known as Tier 1 ISPs — as well as the smaller downstream companies that depend on them for global reach.
Specialists schooled him in navigating the labyrinthine telecommunications industry. They explained Border Gateway Protocol, the automated routing system that picks the best path for traffic. And they explained how to leverage Tier 1 ISP’s acceptable use policies, the contracts that typically prohibit clients from using networks for theft, hacking, harassment, and other unwanted or illegal activity.
In October, the group made a breakthrough.
After rotating among web hosts, Moon had settled on Zayo, a company based in Boulder, Colo. Fong-Jones contacted someone at Zayo, a former colleague who was alarmed to learn his company was working with Kiwi Farms and escalated the matter to senior leadership.
Kiwi Farms’ services were soon terminated. In a statement, Zayo said it concluded that the forum had violated its acceptable use policy, “which allows for termination of service.”
For Fong-Jones, it was a wake-up call. There are less than 20 Tier 1 ISPs in the world, and they get a ton of complaints: Spam. Malware. Harmful content. By and large, they try to stay out of such disputes, preferring to assume they are doing business with reputable companies. But the Zayo experience showed that — if Fong-Jones could reach the right people — top-tier providers were willing to prioritize enforcing their acceptable use policies.
Threats loomed over the group. After her YouTube videos about Cloudflare, Kiwi Farms users posted Fong-Jones’s home address, Social Security number and driver’s license. Once Zayo dropped the site, she began receiving death threats by phone.
Still, a year after the Cloudflare decision, asking providers to drop Kiwi Farms generates controversy. Last week, the Electronic Frontier Foundation published an opinion piece arguing that Tier 1 ISPs should not bow to pressure to drop Kiwi Farms, calling the move “a dangerous step” toward censorship.
“If the site in question were Reddit, or Planned Parenthood, or even EFF, the internet would be up in arms,” wrote the foundation, a nonprofit digital rights group based in San Francisco.
Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, called that argument misplaced. “Fundamentally, EFF fails to acknowledge how power dynamics and asymmetrical threats can act as its own form of censorship,” Caraballo wrote on X, the site formerly known as Twitter.
Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince has confessed to mixed feelings. While the company has withdrawn security services for the Daily Stormer and 8chan — both linked to real-world violence, including mass shootings and a deadly riot — Prince argues that revoking services based on reprehensible content sets a dangerous precedent.
“Deciding what isn’t allowed is the job of governments and regulators, not ISPs and network providers,” he said via the messaging app Signal. Still, he added, “I don’t miss having to worry about [Kiwi Farms] and their often vile content.”
Amid that debate, Kiwi Farms remains online. Without Cloudflare or Zayo or any of the two dozen other companies that have dropped the forum since the group started in September, Fong-Jones says it is down to a limited number of lifelines.
Lorelei, who is now committed full-time to trans activism, wants to move on to other causes. Fong-Jones is moving on as well. Clay and another one of the younger members of the group plan on carrying the torch.
Reflecting on the past year, Fong-Jones said it’s unreasonable to expect victims of harassment to have to do this work.
It’s true Kiwi Farms keeps finding more providers, she said. But, “it’s a finite list. And this is why we know we’re going to win.”
Founded in 2013, Kiwi Farms has been used to organize vicious harassment and stalking campaigns against targets including Clara Sorrenti, a transgender activist known as Keffals, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), a far-right Republican. It went down exactly one year ago, after Cloudflare, a major tech security firm, stopped providing services, saying contributors to the forum were posting the home addresses of those seen as enemies and calling for them to be shot.
But in the week that followed, Kiwi Farms scrambled to stay alive, jumping from Russian servers to a Ukrainian hosting service to VanwaTech, a Vancouver, Wash.-based hosting and security company infamous for providing refuge to 8chan, a message board notorious for white-supremacist content. As it became increasingly clear that Kiwi Farms would not go down without a fight, “Clay” — who spoke on the condition that he be identified by a pseudonym to avoid retribution — joined forces with Liz Fong-Jones, one of Kiwi Farms’s fiercest adversaries, and launched a dogged campaign to keep the site offline.
Over the past year, their little group of internet sleuths, trans engineers and activists has methodically chased Kiwi Farms across servers and networks around the globe, successively persuading more than two dozen companies to drop the site. Despite this laborious undertaking — described exclusively to The Washington Post — the site has endured, showing up for months at a time, sometimes as a “mirror” of itself on an entirely different URL or as a foreign domain in countries such as Poland.
Fong-Jones, one of Kiwi Farms’s fiercest adversaries, has spent the past year trying to keep the site offline. (Jackie Dives for The Washington Post)
The group’s Sisyphean battle illustrates the lack of mechanisms for reporting online abuse, much less for banishing harmful content. It also raises serious doubts about society’s ability to block any site from the global web — even one that explicitly incites violence.
“Either people think Kiwi Farms is dead forever … or they think it’s up and therefore it’s going to remain up forever,” said Fong-Jones, a transgender site-reliability engineer who had been targeted by the forum. “Neither of those two narratives are true.”
Founded by Joshua Moon, a former 8chan administrator, Kiwi Farms evolved into a popular platform for creating harassment campaigns. Its users often fixated on transgender people, relentlessly stalking and doxing them. At least three of its victims died by suicide.
In response to a request for comment, Moon wrote by email, “Do you still print that rag on paper? If so, please send a physical copy of your smear piece to the PO box listed on the website so I can frame it. Thanks.”
The campaign against Kiwi Farms began in earnest last summer. Sorrenti, a Twitch streamer who became famous as a news star for trans youth, had been under attack for months by Kiwi Farms users, who she said doxed her address and “swatted” her home, filing a false crime report that drove police to her door. In August, she fled her native Canada for Europe and launched a social media campaign to pressure internet providers to stop protecting the forum, using the hashtag #DropKiwiFarms.
Clara Sorrenti, also known as Keffals, in London. (Hao Nguyen for The Washington Post)
From her home in Vancouver, Fong-Jones heard about the harassment against Sorrenti and immediately recognized the tactics.
Fong-Jones also had been targeted by Kiwi Farms beginning in 2017, when she donated to a transgender nonprofit. Users published her home address, the names of her biological parents and a redacted copy of her birth certificate in a thread that included racist and transphobic slurs. Members smeared her online in an attempt to ruin her Google search results, then sent her employers the false information.
Though the harassment had died down, Fong-Jones still felt compelled to contribute to the #DropKiwiFarms campaign. She made videos for her YouTube channel explaining Cloudflare’s complicity in keeping the site online.
Those videos soon reached Katherine Lorelei, a transgender IT worker in Norman, Okla. Lorelei had never heard of Kiwi Farms and was distraught by what she learned from Fong-Jones’s presentations.
Katherine Lorelei, a transgender IT worker in Norman, Okla. (Nick Oxford for The Washington Post)
Lorelei had been taking gender transition hormones for less than a year and had no connections to activist circles. Beyond wrangling server space, she had never worked on systems that spanned the entire internet. But she volunteered to help, starting as Fong-Jones’s assistant, before stepping up to co-lead the team.
“I had no idea I had these skills, to be honest,” Lorelei said.
The group began spending dozens of hours each week navigating the byzantine web of network infrastructure, trying to ferret out connections between no-name intermediaries to track down Kiwi Farms’s new home. Then they would send carefully worded emails to those companies’ employees — even cold-messaging on LinkedIn — to persuade them to stop working with the website.
The group operated in cells in case they were doxed but kept track of every internet provider they persuaded to cut ties with Kiwi Farms.
Moon had a few major advantages. After earlier attempts to take down the site, he incorporated as his own internet service provider, acquiring his own physical hardware, network resources and a block of IP addresses, making Kiwi Farms much more difficult to dislodge. It marks the site as a “peer” on the internet, meaning Moon directly receives any abuse reports and is entitled to a presumption of good faith.
When the team alerted FiberHub, a data center in Las Vegas, to alert the company to the bad actor using their facilities, the center said they merely provided the electricity and power cord but had no bearing on the servers that kept the site online. Those belonged to Moon’s hosting company, originally incorporated under the name Final Solutions, a Nazi reference. FiberHub did not immediately respond to request for comment.
The group slowly discovered a network of what they called “sh--hosts” — low-end internet providers who work with disreputable sites that spread malware or offensive content, arguing that they have a right to free speech.
But the group had an asset of their own.
Clay had been a member of Kiwi Farms in his teens. He was bored, seeking community, pressured by his friends and going through a libertarian phase, he said. But following the suicide of one of the site’s targets, he began to push back on the forum’s creed that its victims weren’t human. He withdrew from the site after he saw Kiwi Farms members turn their talents for doxing and harassment on other members.
His goal in joining Fong-Jones and Lorelei’s group was to help the forum’s users, he told The Post. He pointed to Frederick Brennan, the creator of 8chan who called for that site to be taken offline after it played a role in mass shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, and El Paso. Brennan, he said, “wanted to free [the] user base of that site from being radicalized, from going down a darker path. And that’s what I’m sort of doing here.”
Having Clay onboard was a game changer. One of the challenges in persuading companies that Kiwi Farms was a bad actor was the site’s opaque language. Outsiders might overlook terms such as “TTD,” which in Kiwi Farms’s vernacular means “total tr--ny death,” using a slur to refer to transgender people.
Clay could translate this language. He also could show how Kiwi Farms users migrated to Discord servers, where they were more explicit about planning attacks. He led activists to the threads most rife with racism and calls for violence. And he confirmed the trolls’ habit of using the phrase “in Minecraft” to pretend an illegal activity, such as revealing the Social Security numbers of their targets, was just something they did in the online game.
“He was the Kiwi Farms whisperer,” Fong-Jones said.
Fong-Jones had been targeted by Kiwi Farms beginning in 2017, when she donated to a transgender nonprofit. (Jackie Dives for The Washington Post)
Clay, in turn, was getting an education of his own. Fong-Jones helped him get up to speed on the “backbone” of the internet — massive networks responsible for publishing or passing along content known as Tier 1 ISPs — as well as the smaller downstream companies that depend on them for global reach.
Specialists schooled him in navigating the labyrinthine telecommunications industry. They explained Border Gateway Protocol, the automated routing system that picks the best path for traffic. And they explained how to leverage Tier 1 ISP’s acceptable use policies, the contracts that typically prohibit clients from using networks for theft, hacking, harassment, and other unwanted or illegal activity.
In October, the group made a breakthrough.
After rotating among web hosts, Moon had settled on Zayo, a company based in Boulder, Colo. Fong-Jones contacted someone at Zayo, a former colleague who was alarmed to learn his company was working with Kiwi Farms and escalated the matter to senior leadership.
Kiwi Farms’ services were soon terminated. In a statement, Zayo said it concluded that the forum had violated its acceptable use policy, “which allows for termination of service.”
For Fong-Jones, it was a wake-up call. There are less than 20 Tier 1 ISPs in the world, and they get a ton of complaints: Spam. Malware. Harmful content. By and large, they try to stay out of such disputes, preferring to assume they are doing business with reputable companies. But the Zayo experience showed that — if Fong-Jones could reach the right people — top-tier providers were willing to prioritize enforcing their acceptable use policies.
Threats loomed over the group. After her YouTube videos about Cloudflare, Kiwi Farms users posted Fong-Jones’s home address, Social Security number and driver’s license. Once Zayo dropped the site, she began receiving death threats by phone.
Still, a year after the Cloudflare decision, asking providers to drop Kiwi Farms generates controversy. Last week, the Electronic Frontier Foundation published an opinion piece arguing that Tier 1 ISPs should not bow to pressure to drop Kiwi Farms, calling the move “a dangerous step” toward censorship.
“If the site in question were Reddit, or Planned Parenthood, or even EFF, the internet would be up in arms,” wrote the foundation, a nonprofit digital rights group based in San Francisco.
Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, called that argument misplaced. “Fundamentally, EFF fails to acknowledge how power dynamics and asymmetrical threats can act as its own form of censorship,” Caraballo wrote on X, the site formerly known as Twitter.
Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince has confessed to mixed feelings. While the company has withdrawn security services for the Daily Stormer and 8chan — both linked to real-world violence, including mass shootings and a deadly riot — Prince argues that revoking services based on reprehensible content sets a dangerous precedent.
“Deciding what isn’t allowed is the job of governments and regulators, not ISPs and network providers,” he said via the messaging app Signal. Still, he added, “I don’t miss having to worry about [Kiwi Farms] and their often vile content.”
Amid that debate, Kiwi Farms remains online. Without Cloudflare or Zayo or any of the two dozen other companies that have dropped the forum since the group started in September, Fong-Jones says it is down to a limited number of lifelines.
Lorelei, who is now committed full-time to trans activism, wants to move on to other causes. Fong-Jones is moving on as well. Clay and another one of the younger members of the group plan on carrying the torch.
Reflecting on the past year, Fong-Jones said it’s unreasonable to expect victims of harassment to have to do this work.
It’s true Kiwi Farms keeps finding more providers, she said. But, “it’s a finite list. And this is why we know we’re going to win.”