Writer's Guild Strike of 2023 - Fuck these people

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What is worse?

  • A consoomer, who produces nothing, devours everything, and will threaten you if you dare disturb the

    Votes: 87 15.3%
  • The one who's work is to forever feed the consoomer?

    Votes: 25 4.4%
  • Feed them all to feral pigs

    Votes: 456 80.3%

  • Total voters
    568
But the WGA's negotiating committee felt the proposal did not go far enough. Writers on the picket lines were not impressed, calling the studios' proposals "half-measures." They also balked at a proposal to share viewership data on streaming programs with only six WGA staffers — and not with the writers who worked on the shows.

Frustration among workers, including film crew workers, continued to build as the strikes stretched beyond Labor Day, when some had hoped that a deal would be reached.

Some Hollywood workers moved out of state, some lost their homes and others worried about losing their health insurance due to a lack of enough qualifying working hours.

Political leaders including Gov. Gavin Newsom, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass and State Treasurer Fiona Ma also weighed in, urging the parties to settle the dispute.

Todd Holmes, associate professor of entertainment media management at Cal State Northridge, estimated that the economic damage of the dual strikes on California is about $5 billion. If the strikes were to go into mid-October, the cost could balloon to at least $6 billion.

For weeks, the two sides presented different timelines and disagreed on whose turn it was to offer a counteroffer. The WGA's negotiating committee even suggested that some studios might be willing to break from the alliance and negotiate separately with the guild, exploiting potential fractures in the alliance. The AMPTP refuted that notion.

Last week, the studio alliance said the WGA had reached out to restart negotiations, signaling a possible thaw was underway.

Studios had their own motivations to get an agreement done by early October to salvage their 2024 film slates, which would require them to be back in production soon.

They're also hoping to salvage what they can of the 2023-24 television season.

Despite the new agreement, it's unlikely that production will restart right away.

Scripts will have to be written and the studios still need to reach a new contract with SAG-AFTRA. SAG-AFTRA and the AMPTP have not held formal talks since the actors’ strike began.
"Tentative"

Remember it still has to be voted on and the Writers Union members could STILL vote NO like the absolute retards they are.

Oh and the actors are still striking LMAO so yeah Hollywood is still fucked for the time being.

$5 BILLION pissed away so far, let's get it to $6 billion
 
So since it's Yom Kippur now, does that mean negotiations have failed since all the studio bosses are at the synagogue?
Without popular scripted shows including ABC's "Abbott Elementary" and CBS' "Young Sheldon," networks filled their fall TV schedules with reruns, sports and unscripted programming. Fox aired a game show called "Snake Oil"; CBS reprised "Yellowstone" episodes; and ABC began simulcasting ESPN's broadcasts of "Monday Night Football."
Oh no, what will we ever do without Young Sheldon!
Todd Holmes, associate professor of entertainment media management at Cal State Northridge, estimated that the economic damage of the dual strikes on California is about $5 billion. If the strikes were to go into mid-October, the cost could balloon to at least $6 billion.
Oy vey 'memba da 6 billion!
 
SO. it look like WGA is done but, SAGA_AFRA is only one still striking for writer room.
PLS Support SAGA AFRA ....
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Disappointed that the writers are coming back, but I await to see what the proposal says about AI and mandatory writing staff size. It's remarkable that the Yahoo article doesn't even hint at the latter, despite what I heard about it being a major point of contention.
It was just around 10 days shorter of being the longest Hollywood strike. One can only hope there's another Black guy with a red SUV at the picketing.
 
. One can only hope there's another Black guy with a red SUV at the picketing.
Is this supposed to be a reference to something?
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Disappointed that the writers are coming back, but I await to see what the proposal says about AI and mandatory writing staff size. It's remarkable that the Yahoo article doesn't even hint at the latter, despite what I heard about it being a major point of contention.
I am anticipating nothing really changing and there’s still a lot of crap being peddled out by people who refuse to swallow their pride and take a gig in retail.

They’re still probably not getting any of those “Created By” credits anytime soon.

Also, have any of the still striking actors been shown to have an overinflated sense of self worth like some of the writers?
 
Writers get everything they wanted and all that happened was one big pissing contest. I’m starting to think this whole thing was an inside job from the start. Like the strike was scripted
If it was they had to hire writers from outside Hollywood, none of the Hollywood writers could come up with this much of a plot.
 
Writers get everything they wanted and all that happened was one big pissing contest. I’m starting to think this whole thing was an inside job from the start. Like the strike was scripted
They said this 15 years ago too, i highly doubt Netflix and the other streamers accepted a blanket ban on AI and opening their viewship numbers to the public and mandatory minimums for writer rooms and residual payments of 1=1 to cable viewers. some actors were getting paid 6 figures for shows that stopped airing 20 years ago that they did a guest spot on.
 
Good news, it might go much longer if Newsom signs this bill, and you know he will. Unemployment insurance is paid by the employers, so basically the studios will end up paying for this as part of higher unemployment insurance costs.

Newsom in the hot seat after California passes bill to give striking workers unemployment benefits​



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Actually the bill won't be put in effect until January, though it will be interesting seeing how it affects the actor's strike. Also someone should change this title of this thread to the actor's strike.
 
a blanket ban on AI
Producers would only accept that if they learned the ROI is abysmal, so they could write it off as "not worth the gimmick".

opening their viewship numbers to the public
Public won't get it because it'd be like the Amy Schumer special and they'd be told they're not fans of how out of touch Netflix is with its viewerbase, and the investors could sue if that greentext was any indication. Best they probab,y did was tell creatives there really is no money to give in residuals, and they had to show the graphs to prove it.
mandatory minimums for writer rooms
Again, deal breaker. What'd that accomplish except giving freebies and IOUs in the form of writing gigs? Or hiring somebody to satisfy whatever progressive cause is being championed by the producer or the biggest celebrity name attached to the project?

residual payments of 1=1 to cable viewers.
Again, how much money did they think there was to give? If anything, if this was to happen, I'd assume somebody would tell people how to abuse this. Most I can think of is doing residuals to IPs that're ONLY living on streaming these days. At most I assume studios don't want double dipping, the cheapasses.
 
Producers would only accept that if they learned the ROI is abysmal, so they could write it off as "not worth the gimmick".


Public won't get it because it'd be like the Amy Schumer special and they'd be told they're not fans of how out of touch Netflix is with its viewerbase, and the investors could sue if that greentext was any indication. Best they probab,y did was tell creatives there really is no money to give in residuals, and they had to show the graphs to prove it.

Again, deal breaker. What'd that accomplish except giving freebies and IOUs in the form of writing gigs? Or hiring somebody to satisfy whatever progressive cause is being championed by the producer or the biggest celebrity name attached to the project?


Again, how much money did they think there was to give? If anything, if this was to happen, I'd assume somebody would tell people how to abuse this. Most I can think of is doing residuals to IPs that're ONLY living on streaming these days. At most I assume studios don't want double dipping, the cheapasses.
yeah ; i agree. Which is why them saying they got everything they wanted sounds like the exact opposite of true. So what the fuck did they get?
 
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Remember it still has to be voted on and the Writers Union members could STILL vote NO like the absolute retards they are.
One can hope, but I think that is pretty unlikely. Sadly.

I’m starting to think this whole thing was an inside job from the start. Like the strike was scripted
With Drumpf running for president the late night "comedians" needed to get back in the saddle to defend democracy from all those fascist incursions and Russian influence peddling.
 
Writers get everything they wanted and all that happened was one big pissing contest. I’m starting to think this whole thing was an inside job from the start. Like the strike was scripted
That's the thing, we have no idea what's in the agreement. For all we know it's one giant screw job that only benefits those who work in the WGA and not the writers themselves. It wouldn't be the first union to fuck over their own workers. The announcement email has an air of desperation to me "it's a super good deal guys please believe us AND DO NOT DO ANY WORK" but that might be me reading what I want into it.
 
Every time they get a deal they announce that it's the most historic and groundbreaking deal ever made and then you see that they got a handful of small things. Also there's no way it won't get ratified, they go out of their way to make sure that the members either vote for it or don't vote at all. They do it by mail and it's apparently very easy to miss.

Even if this works and the SAG strike stops tomorrow nothing is getting filmed until January because Hollywood has to shut down for Nov/Dec for some reason. Ultimately I think they'll look back on it as having taken too long for what they got.
 
Thought this was a pretty interesting, if rather too long article.

Hollywood’s Post-Writers Strike Reality

So who won? That’s impossible to tell tonight. But the spin has already started. The guild is using the “exceptional” and “meaningful gains” language, though it hasn’t quite elevated the framing to “historic” (yet). And while the studios are saying nothing—last thing they want is to disrupt an un-papered deal—it’s clear that the top negotiators (Disney’s Bob Iger, NBCUniversal’s Donna Langley, Netflix’s Ted Sarandos, Warner Bros. Discovery’s David Zaslav) felt a sense of urgency. (A sense that, arguably, they should have felt months ago.) Oh, and the heads of the companies that weren’t in the room—Sony, Paramount, Amazon, and Apple—would very much like you to know they were heavily involved and constantly monitoring the situation from afar. Okay!

Passing along the archive, since Puck is a hard paywall.
 
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