Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

i'm gunna power level in the spoiler, so sorry for that in advance, but was hoping for advice.
My boyfriend of like 4 years brought up something last night while we talking. I'll paste the text directly
"I uh, still fantasize about being raepted, I'm a low-key masochist, I want to be tied up, the works
And like, I never want that to be abusive?
So like, abusive behaviour in terms of physical acts is attractive, not emotional abuse though"
This is a major red flag for me, which i think is reasonable. He's also said numerous times in our relationship that he's jealous that I was abused by my parents. I want to stay with him, but the mother fucker is flashing flags like he's directing air traffic.
People’s kinks are one thing, but “jealous [you were] abused”? That’s not ok.

Yeah, fr.

I had before and he'd stalked me.
Tf? Are you afraid to dump him? Girl, that’s not a red flag, it’s a freaking Red Sea.

If you are concerned about your literal safety, then GET OUT. @FuckedOffToff is right: if you are physically concerned, reach out to organizations that help women. Do not make the mistake of thinking “oh, it’s not that bad, he hasn’t hit me and it’s really just that he’s immature and really he’s a great guy, but….”

I agree.

I'm considering it heavily. It sits in my mind pretty often. He's younger than me, and I hold out hope that his brain will unfuck in a couple years now that he's in late college, but idk if I can tolerate this for much longer.
STOP. You’re fucking yourself. Do not be complicit in your own harm.

The more you share about this relationship the worse it looks*. And I DONT MEAN DONT SHARE - I mean you in danger.

*I’m going to rip your thinking, but please understand I mean it in the best possible way:

Your mindset is bad, and the sooner you acknowledge it, get away, and recalibrate everything, the better.

No relationship is worth compromising yourself in this way.

Even if not in physical danger, your thought processes (to accept this state of being) are a mess.

Plus - he’s in college?? My friend, this is not a relationship worth saving.

Read this book: The Six Pillars of Self Esteem. Read it closely, and take notes. Also read Set Boundaries, Find Peace.

If I sound harsh, it’s because I know that this is a self-destructive path you’re on. Maybe not today or tomorrow - but not only is this relationship fucked, but your perspectives that are causing you to just wonder if this is okay or not will fuck your life.

Some years ago I was in a bad space. I started reading some “relationship dilemma” stuff on a board (not fucking Reddit). The advice there was harsh and stark. At the time, I took offense by proxy (I wasn’t posting my stuff, just reading about others’). Over time, the no-nonsense “wtf are you thinking” advice caused me to examine myself, my relationships, my perspective. I came to realize that despite my (internal) protests to the contrary, my own beliefs/perspectives were partly/largely causing my own grief. And that a root cause (one of a few) was internal. I did some intensive and open-minded introspection (including using the books noted above) and came to see things in a clearer light. I saw both the fucked-up-ness of my relationships/choices of partner and my own perspective/ orientation about relationships in general. I finally corrected and made the right choices to exit unhealthy situations.

Wish I’d learned/known more earlier in life and had the courage to get out or avoid abusive and toxic situations…and to fix myself so that I didn’t get into them/left them before they got destabilizingly bad, or even bad at all.

You don’t “need” this relationship. Find your pride and self-respect, and don’t live in a situation that has you concerned or fearful. Your gut is telling you this is not a good situation for you. Your description of the dynamic is showing objectively that this is not a good situation for you. Pay attention.
 
Seeing Lidl’s bing generated ideal society has made me want to post my own ideal society because I’ve given it some thought.


First off the society would be sex segregated. Only a very exclusive group of men would be allowed to enter female society.

Up until the age of five boys would live with their mother. Once they turn five they would go into an apprenticeship program and assigned an older man as someone to learn under. This would hopefully satiate two male needs: the need for a father figure and the need to pass down knowledge. At the age of 18 they will enter the real workforce (nearly all men will be doing grunt work).

The average man will then be assigned to essentially an apartment block that has a cafeteria, gym and other amenities. Socialization between the men would be encouraged. Some sort of cooming facility would exist, it’s access limited to once a day because men can’t help themselves. There they will stay doing a reasonable amount of work and eventually apprenticing younger men. When they can no longer do grunt work do to physical strain or old age they either retire or do bland managerial work.

The men who are exceptionally attractive or smart will be taken out of the labor pool at 16 and given two surgeries. A vesectomy and a small explosive placed next to their heart that a woman could activate should he try anything uncouth. For the next two years they will learn how to take care of a household and how to please a woman. From then on they would basically be courtesans, should a woman fall in love with him she would have to purchase him. Once that happens the woman would move out of her female community to live with her husband. The husband would be expected to do much of the housework but he would also have a job teaching and managing the other courtesans.

As for women, they would live life pretty much as they live now. While the men are apprenticed the women go through schooling. Like the men, women would also live in a communal apartment block.
Should a woman want to have a baby she could choose any man she desires and be artificially inseminated. Being a mother would be celebrated and the community would help her out should the need arise.
 
we need to make a list of moid triggers ie things they believe women should be killed for doing
-voting
-attending a music festival

- serving in the military - even in a county that requires military service.
from the israel-palestine thread:

This is why women have no business in the military. They can't fight as well as men anyway (inb4 Soviet snipers) and they get treated horrifically when they get captured.
War is essentially barbaric and viscious. Civillians being raped doesn't change the fact women have no business in the military, and (with very few exceptions) its been that way for the entirety of human history until the recent insane women stronk lunacy of the modern day.
I'm not saying women are inferior people to men, but they're certainly inferior soldiers just by virtue of evolution.
No one sane denies that.
Civilian atrocities will always occur. That's no reason to deliberately put women in harms way by encouraging them to try to do something that by nature they aren't suited for.


i'm gunna power level in the spoiler, so sorry for that in advance, but was hoping for advice.

leave.
he will never be satisfied until you engage his fantasy, and if you do, he will resent you for emasculating him.
 
I had before and he'd stalked me.
What everyone else has told you in this thread is true. There are so many situations where women who haven't done anything wrong and try to be good people end up getting burnt. You have to understand that these low-quality men don't have some complex array of thoughts zipping around in their heads that they carefully weigh before deciding to engage in toxic behavior. They only have two things on their minds: boosting their egos and cheap, hedonistic pleasure.
 
I know that, and in part know I'm lying to myself to force myself into granting him grace and the benefit of the doubt.

This is insightful and I agree, too. If anything, you guys have first given me the courage to doubt my intentions for overlooking bullshit, as well as pointed me in a better direction. I'm afraid, but I'll do it, because you're ultimately right and I'm disillusioned.
Just poison him in Minecraft
 
He's younger than me, and I hold out hope that his brain will unfuck in a couple years now that he's in late college, but idk if I can tolerate this for much longer.
People very rarely change for the better. And never without putting a lot of work into this change, it doesn't happen by itself.
 
Sorry if this isn't the thread for it, but what do you think the effect of women pooning out has had on feminism? It is insane to me how much feminism has dropped off, even in the last 10 years. Part of that is that all the creepy male feminists who were talking about enthusiastic consent and rape culture are now talking about how letting male rapists into female prisons isn't a big deal. Part of it is liberal feminists who are too scared to talk about women specific issues because they might hurt a troons feelings. But I can't help but think that a big part of it is that women (especially young women) who realize that gender roles are bullshit are taking the easy way out of trying to be a man rather than fighting to change gender roles for women.

I'm seeing more and more posts along the lines of "as a gender non-conforming transman I think that-" and that just comes across as insanity to me. These ladies seem to just want to act like women, but they don't want the female label. It's like they are just giving themselves permission by tricking themselves into thinking that they are choosing to be feminine. Rather than having it forced on them like it is on "women". I'm asking here because I get the feeling a lot of these girls were pretty close to being misandrist feminists until gender ideology got into their brains. Obviously, forcing men into women's spaces is one of the ways troonism is weaponized against women. But I'm starting to think it also serves as a sort of pressure release valve to make sure women who would have otherwise fought back get suckered into defending men.

Anyway I hate troons, it's amazing how they rot every community they touch from the inside out.
 
Sorry if this isn't the thread for it, but what do you think the effect of women pooning out has had on feminism? It is insane to me how much feminism has dropped off, even in the last 10 years. Part of that is that all the creepy male feminists who were talking about enthusiastic consent and rape culture are now talking about how letting male rapists into female prisons isn't a big deal. Part of it is liberal feminists who are too scared to talk about women specific issues because they might hurt a troons feelings. But I can't help but think that a big part of it is that women (especially young women) who realize that gender roles are bullshit are taking the easy way out of trying to be a man rather than fighting to change gender roles for women.

I'm seeing more and more posts along the lines of "as a gender non-conforming transman I think that-" and that just comes across as insanity to me. These ladies seem to just want to act like women, but they don't want the female label. It's like they are just giving themselves permission by tricking themselves into thinking that they are choosing to be feminine. Rather than having it forced on them like it is on "women". I'm asking here because I get the feeling a lot of these girls were pretty close to being misandrist feminists until gender ideology got into their brains. Obviously, forcing men into women's spaces is one of the ways troonism is weaponized against women. But I'm starting to think it also serves as a sort of pressure release valve to make sure women who would have otherwise fought back get suckered into defending men.

Anyway I hate troons, it's amazing how they rot every community they touch from the inside out.
Good thought, I think it is definitely related. Pooners all have internalized misogyny. They are basically "not like other girls" but taken to the extreme. They are taught by society that women are just empty vapid shells who can't do anything cool and whose only purpose is to be sex objects for men and to make babies and they think "Hey... I don't want to do that... I don't identify with that? I'm don't want to just paint my nails and talk about boybands?! I must not be a woman at all! I must be a man because men are cool and I am cool!". I don't think they are actively aware that they are trying to opt out of womanhood because of how hard it is to be a teenage girl growing up, but I think most of them realize it as they get older (and often when it's too late to reverse the hormones and surgeries). I am absolutely convinced that if women were valued in society as individuals instead of as sex objects and birthgivers there would be no pooners.

I'm so glad I'm not a teenager in current day, I feel absolutely horrible for teenage girls having to grow up in the trooner/coomer generation.
 
Men aren't all bad. Sometimes they are pretty decent.
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Sorry if this isn't the thread for it, but what do you think the effect of women pooning out has had on feminism?
I wrote a big long reply but deleted cause cba but really the most prominent issue specific to those morons is how hard they fight for trans identified males because they think they’re all in this together meanwhile pooners only ever hit the news when they get pregnant or kidnapped by a pedo. Aside from reinforcing sexist stereotypes, they help spread the psyop that is liberal feminism and uphold all those same ideas. They’re so focused on existing as trans they only care about those issues even though female ones impact them heavily.
Men aren't all bad. Sometimes they are pretty decent.
Step 1 is learning good men do bad things.
 
I read a thread once where detransitioned pooners were talking to each other about their reasons for transitioning and the vast majority of them admitted that they were molested as children or raped as teenagers, so men saying that women are responsible for the tranny mennace is extra ridiculous considering that men are actively creating pooners by molesting kids and raping teenage girls which then leads them to not want to be women and to cut off their tits in hopes men will never sexualize them again.
 
Pooners all have internalized misogyny. They are basically "not like other girls" but taken to the extreme.
I didn't really used to take the idea of internalized misogyny seriously. But seeing supposed feminists go to bat for men pretending to get periods on TikTok has really changed my mind. How can you, as a woman, have that little self respect?
I'm so glad I'm not a teenager in current day, I feel absolutely horrible for teenage girls having to grow up in the trooner/coomer generation.
Also, nowadays anything you do could get uploaded onto the internet and go viral. I think I grew up at a sort of weird watershed moment where the internet was starting to become a normal part of people's lives, but there was still a firewall between it and the real world. But I also grew up at the tail end of the era where stuff that happened on the internet just got forgotten about, the Myspace era is very poorly archived. Nowadays not only do you have to endure bullying from other kids, but that bullying gets uploaded to the internet. So some of the worst moments of your life get immortalized and millions of internet strangers can pile on to bully you as well. It seriously makes me not want kids because, Jesus, imagine having to endure that.
 
I tried to get BingAI to create my ideal vision for the future of scrote-kind, but it kept denying my requests saying the images I was trying to create were "unsafe". Here are some that I managed to get anyways.

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I couldn't get the AI to generate any women that looked less male-gazey. Sigh. Nevermind you just have to include that you don't want to see their butt in skintight pants.
i love Lady Rushmore
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That's right, gorls. We're assholes with ugly hearts looking to take our in securities out on those poor, helpless, innocent losers who repel women with their love of rape, pedophilia and subjugation of said women on top of their hatred for hygiene, effort and culpability. It's errverr, kiwi sisters. 💔 For context, this is in the Things That Piss You Off/What Grinds My Gears thread.

Bonus sour grapes points for specifically bitching about white women.
 
I wrote a big long reply but deleted cause cba but really the most prominent issue specific to those morons is how hard they fight for trans identified males because they think they’re all in this together meanwhile pooners only ever hit the news when they get pregnant or kidnapped by a pedo. Aside from reinforcing sexist stereotypes, they help spread the psyop that is liberal feminism and uphold all those same ideas. They’re so focused on existing as trans they only care about those issues even though female ones impact them heavily.
That's the sad thing, they think they are identifying out of oppression. And yeah, the average man is probably less likely to go after them now. But really they are just making themselves more vulnerable to male troons and other extreme degenerates. idk how to feel about pooners, I can feel sorry for them, but a lot of them seem like huge creeps in their own right. Plus they actively groom other girls into it. I'm just stuck on the idea of a gender non-conforming trans man. How is it even possible to be trans and reject gender stereotypes? The entire ideology is built around gender stereotypes. It seems like liberal choice feminism bullshit, just tricking yourself into thinking that you are being empowered rather than oppressed because you changed the words you use to describe what you are doing.
 
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