When debasement and debauchery is considered not only female empowerment, but demanded of your female children there should be no surprise of a backlash.
The fact that its being debated at all is farcical, and don't be surprised when men in dresses hijack female roles.
only someone cripplingly autistic assumes that movements don't have offshoots and fractures, while still having the same overarching beliefs. it's an inevitability with a lot of large movements, religion of course being an example, but it's not the only example. ultimately, women want to be treated like human beings.
i wouldn't use the word "bad" as much as i'd use the words "misguided and wrong", like feminists that accept trannies.
It's a very unstable grouping for numerous reasons. There's a ton of baggage attached to the term, the idea of "equality between the sexes" is so vague as to be meaningless, and that belief which is often put forth as the sole value that one needs hold to qualify as a feminist is far from the only belief that the vast majority of feminists espouse. If I were to declare myself a feminist on that basis, my view on abortion among other beliefs would lead most feminists to disavow me. It seems to speak more to a mindset than an actual set of solid beliefs.
The definition of woman has come into question, so why should I assume Feminism A is equal to Feminism 2.
Hence the need for labels and clear terminology. Tell me dear, are you a good witch or a bad witch. And its not my job to play twenty questions figuring out your stances on various issues. Its Feminism's job to clearly declare their terms and state what they mean. Including to which denomination of Feminism they belong.
Egalitarianism describes that just as well as Feminism. You'll have to be more specific. Feminism isn't the only movement that seeks to treat women like human beings.
Okay so switch out bad for "misguided and wrong" and answer the question. Very respectable people believe Caitlin Jenner is also a woman, so you still need to specify which Feminisms are good and which are "misguided and wrong". I need to know so I can spread only accurate Feminist teaching when I encounter the misguided and wrong Feminists.
this is retarded and you're retarded.
feminism: women wanting to be treated equally. that's it.
nah, egalitarianism is just a way for moids to have their cake and eat it too.
once again, they're all still feminists. they all have the overarching belief that women should be treated equally. i can still disagree with their stance on trannies, but still agree with their feminist views. nuance must be difficult for someone like you, huh.
Except they both call themselves Feminism without specifying which wave they are. Its been decades. Conservative women call themselves Feminists.
That "equally" is liberally defined. Everything Feminism brings up is potentially an issue of equality, even when its bullshit like air conditioner settings in the office.
Thinking men can be women and can experience misogyny is anti-Feminist. You should cast them out of the word Feminism for saying men can become women. It's not my problem you won't defend the integrity of the word Feminism or the word woman. If you want to be understood and supported by outsiders to your movement, you need to clearly define terms. If you demolish women's sport for trannies by voting blue just because the blue guy claimed to support abortion, its not your sterling integrity, you were tricked.
Ketanji Brown Jackson refused to define the word woman. Nuance is not my problem.
I just posted a picture to your page of two heavy ass boxes of food donations I carried unassisted to my car. If you want to dispute the heaviness of the box I can take a video for you
I had hoped peace would be an option... but my hope is waning. The future is feminist.
In regards to terminology--I think that the purpose is somewhat served by giving each denomination/sect/form of feminism its own name. For instance, you have "liberal feminism" on one hand and "radical feminism" on the other. Those two things call two different movements to mind, and a person who identifies themselves with one term would never use the other even by mistake.
Yet another moid here to mansplain how feminism failed us girls. :slowclap:
Hmm, so it looks like you can be civil under threat of being threadbanned.
give me some examples that aren't retarded clickbait articles.
women wanting to be treated equally sure does upset you, huh. it's a valid point, though, a feminist supporting trannies is a contradiction, hence why they're misguided and wrong. even so, i think that the intent is still there. they're still seeking equal rights for women, but have unfortunately gotten sucked into retarded identity politics which, unbeknownst to them, harms feminism as a whole.
are you incapable of defining a woman yourself?
People who call themselves Feminists have said retarded bullshit is sexism for decades. Who am I to say their concerns are not Feminism? Or that the concerned women are not Feminists? I'm just a moid after all, right
You're not helping me see which Feminisms are okay. You keep not answering my direct and simple question.
I'm incapable of knowing what someone means by the word woman unless they're clear with their terms.
It may be childish, but a large barrier for the entry of men into feminism is the emasculating connotations of the label, even without the baggage it carries due to the culture surrounding it. I think the core tenets of 4th wave feminism you laid out are all values worth defending and not just for the sake of creating a safer, more accommodating culture for women. Everyone seeks to benefit from pushing back against these things as they're actively mutilating our culture and complicating the future for our children.
"i have no examples." also it's rich that you, a moid, is telling feminists what they should and should not do. sit down, scrote.
not my fault you're incapable of extrapolating meaning from my posts.
literal actual grade-a autism
nigger, it's not meant for you
So there is no way to know what is legitimate Feminism?
And you don't know the answer either.
Remember when you see womens sport dismantled that its the leaders Feminism endorsed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMqayQ-U74s
this is a retarded question. a woman who believes in equal rights for all women is a feminist. that's legitimate feminism.
nah, you're just really dumb.
there it issssss. "it's women's fault trannies (MEN) forced their way into women's sports."
Can we please stop talking about your dick for a second? I swear the moids are intent on not getting the premise of a feminist thread.
What is a woman?
