2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

There's no point to putting missing persons posters up in North America and Europe for Israelis being held in Gaza. They're just fomenting anger to manufacture consent for another forever war. I imagine the spending packages going forward will have a bite for Israel and a bite for Ukraine. Hooray bipartisanship.
 
I have no dog in this fight but I'm dismayed that the price of 5.56 jumped recently, just in time for 2024 election panic buyers.
Fucking really. The last shipment I got from Ammosquared had 5.56 at like $0.32-42CPR and now it’s shot up to like $0.70CPR on TargetSportsUSA. I’ve still got a small stash of M193 and a slightly larger stash of M855 (muh “green tipz”) but it just sucks. I just checked TargetSportsUSA and 70% of their 5.56 offerings are out of stock 😔
 
More pictures and videos of the church bombing, it really seems now that the main 10th century building was obliterated.
That's not what the images show. The steeple and chuch bells are still standing and clearly visible. The rebar belongs to the bombed-out two-storey structure highlighted in red:

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The video seems to have been shot from approximately here— note tree and minaret as camera pans to the right at 0:07, seen also on Google Earth and in this tourist photo:

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Further reference:

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It's possible the damage to the old church is worse than we've seen. We'll know more in 24 hours. Meanwhile, 100+ people appear to have been killed while they slept in that two-storey building. From the church office of public relations:

The bombs hit the two church halls where the refugees, including children and babies, were sleeping. Presently, survivors are searching the rubble for other casualties. Our source at the scene says that they estimate that 150-200 people are dead, and that number is expected to rise as more people are found in the wreckage.

That's a terrible mistake or an intentional war crime on Israel's part. Either way it's yet another awful human tragedy. I want to dub Biden's boast about "bombs Made in the USA" over the clip of smoking ruins and crying survivors.
 
Those calling for total victory from one side are echoing a sentiment I’ve recently been thinking about. This whole situation makes the case for finishing the fucking job when you start an ethnic cleansing.
That being said, whoever wins, the victor group will split up into other groups and they'll all turn on each other, starting it all over again. Even other Islamic countries don't like Palestinians and are just using them as proxies to murder Jews and don't give a fuck if Gaza gets the shit bombed out of it in the process. When Hamas won elections there they could have actually done something to improve life for the average person living there, but no, they had to act the fool and get their country shut down with their violent behavior.
The Israeli army is a 5th rate conscript force with 2nd rate weapons (1st rate now that they're realizing they need actual guns instead of tavors) that routinely gets in spats with 6th rate conscript forces with 6th rate weapons. (one of the under analyzed things about hezbollah is that volunteer armies tend to perform much better than conscript ones on average, this may be a contributing factor their outsized success, IDK, no ones done the analysis. Conscript forces suck generally, see ukraine and russia for multiple examples)

I'm not impressed they managed to eke out a victory with WW2 surplus on retards considering everything 3 years prior.
It's almost as if wanting to fight and being motivated to win make some degree of difference. There is a lot of institutional rot in the IDF as well, and I've noticed a lot of their gear is decades old and often US surplus. It is their ancient homeland though, granted they got largely driven out by the Romans and again by the Crusaders and clashed with their neighbors even before the British screwed the pooch by putting the Jewish settlers in charge of the whole thing, but muh Holocaust of course.
Muslim Americans are the real victims in all this, you guys.
Wrong, Twitter users are the real victims for having their retarded takes on Middle Eastern affairs mocked despite being experts for days.
If they were worth a shit the israelis would use them as a full on service weapon.
I have fired a Tavor clone, it's okay but I wouldn't get one for myself, maybe because I'm a Kalashnikov guy but the $2000 price tag at the time just says "I'm for serious collectors" as well. If you really want a Jew gun I'd rather have a Galil clone. Israeli made stuff is better than average overall and their ammo is cleaner and more consistent than Lake City.
If the world walked away and let the war play out then they wont like the outcome.
Letting it play out means Israel gets wiped off the map. They are a spec in the middle of the Islamic world. A spec that needs constant infusion of money and weapons from their Greatest Goy to keep their little bunker secured.

Israel can go Total Gaza Death and it still wont end. They are still completely surrounded by people who want them dead. The endless cycle of violence will continue to be endless.

People keep calling this part of the world things like the Holy Land. I think they are wrong. Its actually cursed by God, not blessed. Nothing but endless pain, suffering and death has been happening there for 2000 years.
At this point I think the US should say "Fuck the Middle East" and pull themselves out of the bloodbath that they've contributed to for decades. Then again, it's the only relatively democratic country in a region filled with warlords, autocrats, and people who hate Jews to the point where they're willing to sacrifice their own children as proxy bombers in schools and daycare centers, all while crying about how they're "so oppressed" and getting morons on TikTok to fall for ten second edits of it.
yeah the cutting off water and power thing to Gaza sucks for any innocent civilians, but that's just a war tactic likely as old as war itself. Like have you never heard of surrounding a city and cutting off its supply chain to starve the city out? This is incredibly common throughout all the world in mankind's history. Sure it's a medieval tactic, but it's not like this is some new "war crime" the Israelis pulled out of their ass as an extra "fuck you" to the Gazans

And anyway, Israel turned the water back on in southern Gaza as a way to incentivize people to gtfo and evacuate
I just love how giving a warning to civilians and letting them evacuate to the area you don't want to strike is somehow morally equivalent to massacring entire families on a kibbutz, according to Twitter.
I think that's unfortunately a consequence of the culture degenerating to the point where there is no shared history or philosophy that people can effectively appeal to outside of Latest Consoomer Product. ™️
That being said, why does a democratic nation like the Galactic Republic flirt with a religious order like the Jedi Temple?
Admittedly I've only handled semi-auto civilian versions in gun shops (and haven't fired them myself), but out of just simply handling them I've personally found the Croatian VHS rifle to be most well balanced feeling bullpup that's out there, being a lot less back heavy and having a smoother trigger than either the Tavor or the AUG.
I've live fired, it's okay but I'm not a bullpup person.
How quiet and quaint would Britain be right now without the foreigners there.
Indeed, We live in a period.
Importing a bunch of people who don't want to get along with the local culture is paying off well, I see.
Sounds like the excuse that black people make whenever they throw a riot.
At least they usually burn down their own neighborhoods and leave other areas alone. Then they bitch about businesses leaving and never coming back. In fact it's gotten so bad in Chicago there's talk of setting up government owned grocery stores to replace the ones idiots looted and burned.
Blowing up journos is a public service however, so it balances out.
No sympathy here especially after years and years of fucking lies. The New York Times might as well be Pravda for their blatant lies about recent happenings.
Fucking really. The last shipment I got from Ammosquared had 5.56 at like $0.32-42CPR and now it’s shot up to like $0.70CPR on TargetSportsUSA. I’ve still got a small stash of M193 and a slightly larger stash of M855 (muh “green tipz”) but it just sucks. I just checked TargetSportsUSA and 70% of their 5.56 offerings are out of stock 😔
I already got a little bit of the Jew stuff before everything went awry. Granted I'll probably buy a little here and there but thankfully I also have components as well if I decide to go that route, but for general stashing you should have been doing it a while ago. Don't panic, it is common enough just a temporary run, I just wish lead core 62 grain was more common though.
That's not what the images show. The steeple and chuch bells are still standing and clearly visible. The rebar belongs to the bombed-out two-storey structure highlighted in red:

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The video seems to have been shot from approximately here— note tree and minaret as camera pans to the right at 0:07, seen also on Google Earth and in this tourist photo:

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Further reference:

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It's possible the damage to the old church is worse than we've seen. We'll know more in 24 hours. Meanwhile, 100+ people appear to have been killed while they slept in that two-storey building. From the church office of public relations:



That's a terrible mistake or an intentional war crime on Israel's part. Either way it's yet another awful human tragedy. I want to dub Biden's boast about "bombs Made in the USA" over the clip of smoking ruins and crying survivors.
On the up side, maybe Joe Biden's support for Israel will get the lefties to turn against him and ruin his election chances?
 
South Chicago to be more specific and we could also mention Gary, Indiana.

There's a blog post about one SOB behind the curtains of Gaza-Israel.


And one editorial toon said it all between Hamas and J6.
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Ah yes.. The Jew who lived once again.


It's even better, the Scottish leader is Pakistani and the UKs PM is Indian. They just exported the conflict abroad.

The absolute state of the UK!



New footage below from the rave massacre in Israel last weekend that killed at least 260 people. In the video, you can see Hamas fighters noticing people fleeing. They then indiscriminately open fire against the civilians fleeing.
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German FM returns to Israel for second solidarity visit since outbreak of war
German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock embarks on her second trip to Israel since the deadly Hamas onslaught of October 7, to express “unwavering solidarity” and help ensure Palestinian access to aid.


The trip, due to last until Saturday according to her ministry, will also take in Jordan and Lebanon, where German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius was making a surprise visit today.


Before her departure, Baerbock insists on Israel’s “right to defend itself against Hamas terror” and accuses the terror group of using the civilian population of the Gaza Strip as “human shields.”
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260? RIP OC that isn't causing global meltdowns and mass protests.



French media cited a European source saying there are approximately 10-50 deaths from the errant rocket blast in the hospital parking lot, not the 471 claimed by Hamas.


The terror attack made the front page of an ultra Orthodox print newspaper in high circulation and the article in the paper was extremely sympathetic, but at the same time they aren’t putting up missing posters or holding rallies, though I don’t know about groups that are currently living in Israel.



The rocket hit the Bedouin town of Shaqib al-Salam, just southeast of Beersheba.

Which certainly makes a LOT more sense. And the current global muslim freakout all the more hilarious.



Haredim are not interested in publicizing what they are doing and view rallies as useless because they cannot affect what is going on. Instead they are focusing on immediate aid such as donating supplies to reservist soldiers and donating money to Israeli causes like Magen David Adom, the Israeli red cross. I know of a case where Israeli American reservists were stuck in JFK because they couldn't afford tickets back and a Haredi man showed up with a credit card that had a half million dollar credit limit to pay for 250 tickets to Israel.

Here is the latest general request list from front line soldiers:

-Black Duct Tape (Gorilla Brand Preferred)
- ParaCord
- General First Aid Kit
- Foot Care Items
- IFAK
- CamelBack Hydration Pack
- Electrolyte Packs
- MultiTool
- AR15/M4 Armors MultiTool and cleaning Kit
- Protein Bars

There's also prayers for the hostages and for the people murdered in the attack.

Read that last one as "Protein Bears" for a second. lol



The attacks follow similar drone strikes over the past few days against U.S. and coalition bases in Iraq amid simmering anger in the region after an explosion at a Gaza hospital killed hundreds of people.

Yeah, about that!



The "decolonization" narrative the fringe left is pushing is such a creepy mask off moment. Their hatred of whites is so extreme they will openly support massacres of white people (I know I know Jews aren't white but lefties think they are) as an act of freeing and decolonizing brown people. Fucking sociopaths.

Indeed. Very creepy.




JFC! "Accidentally"





Expel them all.
 
There's no point to putting missing persons posters up in North America and Europe for Israelis being held in Gaza. They're just fomenting anger to manufacture consent for another forever war. I imagine the spending packages going forward will have a bite for Israel and a bite for Ukraine. Hooray bipartisanship.

The posters are stupid, but people are even dumber for taking the bait & tearing them down.
 
The "decolonization" narrative the fringe left is pushing is such a creepy mask off moment. Their hatred of whites is so extreme they will openly support massacres of white people (I know I know Jews aren't white but lefties think they are) as an act of freeing and decolonizing brown people. Fucking sociopaths.
As if I don't have enough reasons already to hate the Left in their current state. The irony is that most of them are whiter than bleached mayonnaise but easily fooled by ten second videos. That being said, there was no concept of Palestinian nationhood until the modern state of Israel was established in 1948, it's just a talking point used by anti-Semites and ignorant cheerleaders on social media.
Sure, if whites were half as bad as Tariqd Nasheed thinks we are. Thankfully Zionists wrote their plans down and brought them to fruition so we don't have to guess
I've said everything there is to say about that sad joke of a man, but one thing I do not understand, is why a number of black Americans admire Islam when it's the religion of people who engaged in the slave trade for far longer, and in many worse ways, than Europeans ever could. Afrocentric black supremacists are some of the most insane racists that ever existed, with their talk of Yakub and flying magic melanin pyramids.
The posters are stupid, but people are even dumber for taking the bait & tearing them down.
Half those people have probably been raped to death by inbred camel fuckers by now anyway.
 
Even if some church in Gaza got blown up why does it matter?
Even if some kibbutz in Israel got blown up why does it matter? There are hundreds of other kibbutz in Israel which you can visit. Secondly, I find it highly doubtful that you would ever travel there if you’re posting in this thread. Try to be less emotionally invested over walls and a roof my goy.
Christians don't worship buildings, or they shouldn't. That church will be rebuilt as it already has been multiple times
Not religious. I don't care.
I hate it when structures of heritage and worship gets destroyed.
Whether it's:
- Regional governments in China trying to take crosses off churches
- ISIS bombing historical mosques, churches and synagogues
- Methed up deathmetal scum setting churches on fire
- Jews bombing mosques
- Rabid Tunisians setting a synagogue on fire

So if the IDF did bomb the church, shame on them.

Yeah, call me someone that actually worships the building, I guess. They're good on the eyes in the ocean of brutalist architecture with zero identity. The church I attended during my youth is now surrounded by skyscrapers. They're still going strong and I have a sense of divinity each time I see the structure, somehow. I bet if I visit I might just become religious again. For all that's taken over by brutalist crap, religious buildings survived and prospered.
 
I’ve heard that supposedly the Tavor is one of the best bullpups used by an army but I’ve never handled one so don’t know how true that statement is. Maybe Kiwis that have can opine.
Gunfag here. Yes. They’re quite nice. Takes a bit of getting useful but in my opinion bullpups take a little getting used to.
 
South Chicago to be more specific and we could also mention Gary, Indiana.

There's a blog post about one SOB behind the curtains of Gaza-Israel.


And one editorial toon said it all between Hamas and J6.
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Tlaib has actually said the shit Dems did would be used against them. As much as I don't agree with her politics she seems to be to most committed to principal
 
I wonder how the kikes are verifying their intel on the buildings to bomb or if they are at all.
I dont think the US were anywhere near as loose with munitions and bombings in cities when they were murking the goatfuckers.
You sure about that last one? Mosul looked like a sand-covered version of bombed-out Chechnya once they were done with it.
 
Not religious. I don't care.
I hate it when structures of heritage and worship gets destroyed.
Whether it's:
- Regional governments in China trying to take crosses off churches
- ISIS bombing historical mosques, churches and synagogues
- Methed up deathmetal scum setting churches on fire
- Jews bombing mosques
- Rabid Tunisians setting a synagogue on fire

So if the IDF did bomb the church, shame on them.

Yeah, call me someone that actually worships the building, I guess. They're good on the eyes in the ocean of brutalist architecture with zero identity. The church I attended during my youth is now surrounded by skyscrapers. They're still going strong and I have a sense of divinity each time I see the structure, somehow. I bet if I visit I might just become religious again. For all that's taken over by brutalist crap, religious buildings survived and prospered.
Also not religious but in the absence of it, people often tend to worship politicians and consoomer franchises and corporations. I've been dismayed for a while but seeing the Colbert show do an actual goddamn commercial for Pfizer of all people just makes me want to bang my head into the wall until it turns red.
I wonder how the kikes are verifying their intel on the buildings to bomb or if they are at all.
I dont think the US were anywhere near as loose with munitions and bombings in cities when they were murking the goatfuckers.
Do you think baiting them with live goats would draw them out of the tunnels? After murdering scores of kikes and drinking the blood of decapitated Heeb infants, nothing helps me relax from a hard day's work like pounding some Grade A nanny pussy.

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