YourFriendlyLurker 2.0
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He hates himself, that is all. Get the pal a proper therapist (but not LGBTQBBQ therapist) who can help him to understand that it's OK to be a man and it's OK to be a gay man.
Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism
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Kit Marz
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He's been in and out of therapy and family therapy ever since he was 13, he's 30 now. I don't know what his current therapist is like, if he even has one, but the ones he had growing up and early adulthood has been a normal Cognitive Behavioral therapist. My family and I don't know what to do with him. Almost every conversation ends with him yelling at us. He's been prescribed drugs, I don't know what they or if they work. Anytime we call him out or tell him to stop he says we're only doing that because we hate him and he's gay. It's so tiring. I think the amount of time he focuses on hating men is what makes me think he wants to transition.
BlaireWhitesBottom2
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Protistology
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I am not gay but I love sucking dick
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He sounds like he has a personality disorder of some description. Meds might calm him down some, but the dysfunction in pd is structural rather than chemical.
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Hey guys
Unfortunately, I have to contribute to this thread. With a very heavy heart I am here to report the loss of my favorite cousin to the Troon brain virus.
Growing up, he was like a brother to me. While I may not have seen him as often as I would have liked, I have many fond memories of spending time together through the years.
He was the first person to show me Pokémon. Blue, on the Gameboy color. Also the first person to play DnD with me.
We would play n64 in his basement, well before my parents were well off enough to afford a game system.
Later on, when he got into speed cubing, he taught me how to solve a Rubix cube, and helped me get my time down to 45 seconds.
We spend a ton of time together over the years, and as my older cousin, I really looked up to him. Taking after him as much as I could, disappointed in myself when he surpassed me everytime with his brilliance.
Unfortunately, although incredibly smart, he was a failure with women. He had one particularly hot girlfriend in high school, but it didn't work out. He would still talk about it with regret. As far as I know, he is still a virgin.
Anyway. I planned a trip to visit him this week. It had been about 18 months since I had last seen him. He had on earrings and had grown his hair out. He immediately informed me he had been a year on HRT.
Yea, I'm not quiet about my seething hatred of trannies. So I was quite surprised that this hadn't come up in one of my many hate fueled, "trannies go in the pit with the furries and pedophiles" rants. Apparently he wanted to tell me in person.
I was in shock. Still am. I'm devastated. I just. It's so much.
We still spent the 2 days together we had planned to. I was generally kind about the whole thing, but got serious when I advised him against surgery.
It very much felt as though he was trying to keep the illusion that everything was the same.
Idk guys. He seems happier than he has in years. But he's not the same. Being trans had become his personality. It's come from the discords he hangs out in, he told me as much himself.
I've been hardline about a few things. The pronouns, for instance. He asked me if I wanted to hear his "trans monologue" and I shut it down.
It sucks so hard. He might be OK for now but we all know what this this path leads to. I miss my cousin. My best friend.
TLDR: Leftism is cancer, the incel to tranny pipeline is real, HRT is to nerd communities as crack is to nigger communities.
TTD, but sad.
Unfortunately, I have to contribute to this thread. With a very heavy heart I am here to report the loss of my favorite cousin to the Troon brain virus.
Growing up, he was like a brother to me. While I may not have seen him as often as I would have liked, I have many fond memories of spending time together through the years.
He was the first person to show me Pokémon. Blue, on the Gameboy color. Also the first person to play DnD with me.
We would play n64 in his basement, well before my parents were well off enough to afford a game system.
Later on, when he got into speed cubing, he taught me how to solve a Rubix cube, and helped me get my time down to 45 seconds.
We spend a ton of time together over the years, and as my older cousin, I really looked up to him. Taking after him as much as I could, disappointed in myself when he surpassed me everytime with his brilliance.
Unfortunately, although incredibly smart, he was a failure with women. He had one particularly hot girlfriend in high school, but it didn't work out. He would still talk about it with regret. As far as I know, he is still a virgin.
Anyway. I planned a trip to visit him this week. It had been about 18 months since I had last seen him. He had on earrings and had grown his hair out. He immediately informed me he had been a year on HRT.
Yea, I'm not quiet about my seething hatred of trannies. So I was quite surprised that this hadn't come up in one of my many hate fueled, "trannies go in the pit with the furries and pedophiles" rants. Apparently he wanted to tell me in person.
I was in shock. Still am. I'm devastated. I just. It's so much.
We still spent the 2 days together we had planned to. I was generally kind about the whole thing, but got serious when I advised him against surgery.
It very much felt as though he was trying to keep the illusion that everything was the same.
Idk guys. He seems happier than he has in years. But he's not the same. Being trans had become his personality. It's come from the discords he hangs out in, he told me as much himself.
I've been hardline about a few things. The pronouns, for instance. He asked me if I wanted to hear his "trans monologue" and I shut it down.
It sucks so hard. He might be OK for now but we all know what this this path leads to. I miss my cousin. My best friend.
TLDR: Leftism is cancer, the incel to tranny pipeline is real, HRT is to nerd communities as crack is to nigger communities.
TTD, but sad.
Amber the Hedgehog
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Dude is in his early steps in a cult, of course he's happier. This is the love bombing and everything is new golden period. It's absolutely great as long as it lasts but it won't and can't last forever. Eventually his learned most of the cult material and group love has moved to the "new kids". Then he either gets out or keeps chasing that dragon. Unfortunately either way he is damaged.
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When I get home, I plan to write up my thoughts and feelings and give him a call.
I can't stand idly by while this happens to one of my favorite people.
Any advice on what to say would be appreciated.
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I have gotten one friend to desist and now she frequently vents to me about how peaked she is from trans shit. Here are the two big takeaways from my experience with her: First off, the most crucial advice I can give would be to not freak out/become heated. That is definitely the worst thing you can do when confronting someone like this. Not only will it cement the idea that you're a "crazy hateful transphobe" but you will probably say at least one thing that you regret or, at the very least, wish you phrased better. If you start feeling the need to yell and freak out, take that as a cue to just drop the call. It's way more embarassing to become unhinged (no matter how objectively correct you are in the argument) than to just say, "nah, man, I can't do this if you're going to be unreasonable" and hang up.
Second most important thing is to stand your ground. Do not cave to the tranny whataboutisms and attacks on your empathy. Be polite and calm about it, but be firm and stick to your guns. Even if he blows up about you not being on board with troonism, it is going to be hard for him to truly hate you when he has a chance to ruminate about this, and I guarantee you he will ruminate. If he starts to question the cult, these actions will establish you as a safe person to talk to about his grievances. So many young folks sink into this because there are so few people they can talk to about the dark aspects of the trans cult, as they are fooled into thinking that anyone against child sex changes and HRT is some hard-right boogeyman. Never underestimate your own power as a rational dissenting opinion, it can literally make you into a lifesaver.
I wish you luck. It's hard enough when a good friend troons, but I think it's borderline devastating when it's a family member who you are close with.
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Wait a second, he says he is gay, but also says he hates men? Well obviously that means he is not gay then. Wtf if he retarded or something? Homosexual men are not people who hate men. I would be screaming at him telling him that he’s not really gay every time he tried to speak to me and I would not let the point go until he admits it.
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There are untold millions of men who absolutely loathe and despise women, but want to fuck them anyway. It's not exactly a deal breaker.
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Not the same thing dumb ass
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It's more likely that he just hates himself, and he projects that onto men as a class. I've seen discussion on this board about how pooners all have internalised misogyny, well I guess this is the male version of that.
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When the trans fad ends, it won't be a pendulum swinging back, it will be the era of reckoning. It will be the kind of thing future generations will read about in history books and think "what the fuck was wrong with people".
Amber the Hedgehog
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Basically treat it like trying to convince him stop using drugs. It won't be easy and there is good chance this will fail for now or completely. You might want to look into if there are other family members or friends who will do this with you. Even if you talk him alone knowing who can help is valuable. To conversation itself.
First, do your research before hand. You need know what you want to say and how you want to say it. What he will loose if goes down this road, what he can gain by stopping and so on. You need know relevant vocabulary (cis, egg, dead name, gender euphoria ect.) so you don't get caught on semantics. When you talk you can be brutally honest but you have to be calm. You can show and talk about your negative feelings but you have avoid fighting words and other straight up aggression. Even if he gets agitated, you cannot response to him in same manner.
Two, pick your battles. There is only so much a person can take at one time. So choose your timing and topics. Keep it simple, consistent and don't get caught up too many off topics, even if they might need be addressed eventually. You can firm about transitioning being a horrible idea you won't support without going on about his other failures that maybe contributed to it.
Three, let him talk if possible. Ask open ended questions and have him explain himself. This is way he isn't just letting it in one ear and out another, but has to engage. Stuff can sound way better inside your head than coming out your mouth, is something that does wake people up.
Four, have alternatives ready to go. What he can do insted of his tranny crap and how he can immediately move himself away from the bad influences.
Five, you need avoid "I told you so" untill he's fully clean. Detrasitioning will be hard for him. He will loose friends, deal with hormonal changes and face inner demons. Most people hate admitting big mistakes and fixing them publicly so don't make it worse.
Six, be ready to walk away. I hope it works out but that's not the only option. He can choose the cult over you. Ultimately you can't change someone who doesn't want to change but you can avoid them dragging you down with them.
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If it isn't buried, which is easy to do.
Despite GAO reports, news reports, lawsuits, even medium profile celebs (Paris Hilton's still around!) and the like, "we kidnap and torture your kid into obedience" Mc-Schools are running wild. OTOH the media is now basically just a mechanism for who is really in power: pharma (duh) and either side of the political uniparty.
I mean realtalk, thousands of dead kids and hundreds of thousands of tortured kids were ringing that bell but nobody could hear it over CurrentThing.
I wonder if I should just do the full blown thread on this in the right forum. I also wonder how fast another troon would try to derail it.
I'm so sick of children being hurt for adults for profit.
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It doesn't need to be buried if people collectively decide that they just don't want to remember. You can, to this day, look up information about Castrati singers in your local library or Internet webzone, but how many people remember them?
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A have good 5 or so childhood friends who I still talk to frequently that are in the prime demographic for trooning out. Weebs, incels (or at least not willing to try), living with parents into their 30s, discord, perpetually consooming the new video game product, etc. How do I make sure they don't troon out? I provide friendship and anti tranny memes currently. I've tried setting them up with dates, trying to get them to learn some more useful skills for better work, but they don't have the motivation.
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You can't avoid conflict , the best you can do is plant the seed by speaking your mind about why you don't want to go along with a lie and why you are concerned for his well being, in case he ever comes back to sanity he'd know the one person willing to be honest with him and if he doesn't just stay clear and prepare for the worst, these people are like heat seeking missiles that will burn everyone in their radius, at least you'd know that when he destroys his life you didn't encourage it