2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

So you telling me israel already invaded half of gaza and not only did the muslim world not react but even the hazbullah didn't chimp out about it. Total kike victory.

I think at this point only people arabs are brave enough to kill are french teachers and themselves.
There's speculation that Hezbollah will enter the fray on Friday:
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This comes two days after this initial teaser:
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At Harvard, a (supposedly) Jewish student was accosted and assaulted while walking past a demonstration on campus. One of the alleged aggressors has been named as Ibrahim Bharmal, an editor for the Harvard Law Review ( a ) :
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Also, for those who've enjoyed following the adventures of the obvious-crisis-actor endearingly nicknamed Mr. FAFO: he's been reassigned from radiologist to member of the press:
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Lastly, some singing/dancing Jews:
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Bonus: Reporter confuses dancing Jews for emergency sirens:
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Do you know absolutely nothing about Arabs? They pathologically hate Jews..
Yes, they pathologically hate Jews. I doubt that anyone here would debate that even for a moment. But consider the possibility that Arabs hate Jews because Jews murder them and their children with impunity.
The Gazans hated Israel before there was a modern Israel.
I'm going to need more evidence on that. From everything I've read Jews living in Palestine before the foundation of the modern state of Israel weren't being hunted down, oppressed or otherwise. It was only when Zionists and Palestinian Arabs started fighting over who had the "rights" to the land, so to speak did things start to turn ugly.
Yeah, the "convenient excuse" and "laughable" threat of entering the country, taking control of areas of land, and murdering 1500 people. In a tiny country. These Israelis are so reactive!
And Hamas will never have a chance in hell of expelling the Israelis, because no matter how many people they kill they simply play into the hands of the Israeli government before getting mowed down in turn. You can clutch your pearls about the 1500 murdered in an attack that was ever so conveniently overlooked by Israeli Intelligence, but the amount of Palestinian civilian dead far outnumbers those Israelis killed because of the policy of collective punishment. A few hundred Hamas terrorists paraglide their way across the most watched and fortified border on earth to murder people, therefore Palestine must be bombed and civilian centers must be hit? It just doesn't follow.
This is literally the opposite of what "mowing the lawn" means.
The Israelis "mow the lawn" in order to keep the Palestinian population down via air strikes and bombings on a regular basis. I suppose you want to get into the semantics of whether deliberately bombing a civilian population to keep their numbers down constitutes ethnic cleansing/genocide or not.
Yeah, definitely. The real threat to white people is the Israelis. They're coming for Sweden next.
You're good at aggressively misunderstanding me. Ask yourself who let in all the rapefugees of peace into Sweden. Ask yourself why it is that Jewish NGOs and Jewish thinkers have such a hate boner for whites. Remember, that European people living in European countries are being systematically ethnically cleansed through immigration, just as the Palestinian nation shrunk due to the influx of Jewish immigrants in what was once considered their land. Whites are told that "whiteness" is a construct that must be eliminated, that whites must accept immigrants no matter the cost because we don't really belong here anyway. Whites are guilt tripped, told that because immigrants have had it rough and come from a place of less privilege that they should shut up and just let it all happen. Just as the Holocaust is/was used as an excuse to hand wave away valid complaints of massive Jewish immigration to what was once Palestine. All of this is told to us by Jews, using the exact same excuses used to force themselves onto the Palestinian nation to undermine white countries as well.

It's important to understand with all of this that despite all of this that there are plenty of Israelis & Jews who don't sip the Kool Aid, and don't feel at ease at the treatment of Arabs by their own government. There are plenty of Israelis also questioning whether the narrative sold to us by the media about all that happened is truthful or not.
I'll simply leave this video here, I hope it will be of use to some of the lurkers in getting a bit more context in regards to Israeli politics, and just what kind of government is holding the reins in Israel while this shit show unfolds.

 
Fuuuuuuuck THAT. Build a new Gaza fugee camp on the Bikini Atoll, and make Israel pay for it. But don bring those motherfuckers here. Wait, instead of a Stalinist city state, put an AI God Of Machine Logic in charge of Gaza, with Boston Dynamics bots it will use as avatars. 1,000lb robots, unphased by headchopper shenanigans & crushing the skulls of antisocials, will create an orderly nation.
This shit is even worse than the fucking Ukraine war, there is basically zero combat footage aside from IDF bombing the shit out of civilians along with every standing structure in Gaza. I'm increasingly convinced that the entire Hamas military force was deployed and expended on October 7th. Even Hezbollah is more active than Hamas and they were caught flat footed since they had no warning this conflict was about to kick off. Seems like the Mad Max ISIS era in 2015 was truly a golden age for infantry combat footage.
Not enough Abu Hajaar action
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After spending 2 weeks touching grass I've reached a conclusion.

The liberal world order is dead because it was never real and now everyone knows it. Because the Liberal World Order was a fiction made manifest solely by the force of the Pax Americana.

It failed in Ukraine, when Russia invaded a European country on contravention to the Budapest Memorandum and "international law".

Now again, in Gaza, as a full blown race war erupts due to Gazas aggression against a UN member State, and that same states fully justified retaliation in the form of total war.

amd again the US must show up to preserve the Pax, even as it gives Israel the bunker buster bombs that are leveling Gaza.

The truth is the rules based international order was always predicated on the only method of enforcing any rules. Violence. The Supreme authority. Hamas' mistake was an assuming the rules were ephemeral, and sacrosanct. Not based instead around their enemies great power sponsors willingness too enforce them.

And willingness to enforce the Pax died along with 1400 Israelis on October 7. Gaza is beyond the protection at this point because it went beyond the point America and even the Arab States' willingness to protect them. The Palestinians of Gaza are excommunicado traitorus.

Things are going to get worse for them, before they get even worse.
 
After spending 2 weeks touching grass I've reached a conclusion.

The liberal world order is dead because it was never real and now everyone knows it. Because the Liberal World Order was a fiction made manifest solely by the force of the Pax Americana.

It failed in Ukraine, when Russia invaded a European country on contravention to the Budapest Memorandum and "international law".
Agreed, but it can be fixed, but not with the current US.
Now again, in Gaza, as a full blown race war erupts due to Gazas aggression against a UN member State, and that same states fully justified retaliation in the form of total war.
Dude what even the fuck.
You mention the rules based order, and then you come up with this shit? The UN mandate is for TWO states, not ONE. Palestinians must be given their state. That is the rules based order. But Pax Americana fucking failed miserably here cause Israel and the US are joined at the hip.
You don't get to decide who deserves a state. Israel is a habitual rule breaker. It must stop being treated preferentially and that rules based order must be imposed on it.
When Romania and Ukraine had territorial disagreements, we solved them through the international courts, like civilized peoples. Palestine and Israel must be forced to do the same. And where the borders are is not something Israel decides. Is what the UN already decided. Now we would just need a proper, non-kosher, impartial Pax Americana to enforce the mandate.
 
Brought to you by the same retard who thinks the US shouldn't have bombed Japan because they were DEFINITELY going to surrender anyway
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The channel is ran by a commie retard; he sounds almost like a smaller Ben Shapiro.
Edit: Thinking he's /leftypol/ based on the meme thumbnails used.
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LAMO
The channel is ran by a commie retard; he sounds almost like a smaller Ben Shapiro.
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>""genocide"" in korea
not watching this clowns videos, but i'm like 99% sure that this will just be him seething and dilating about south korea purging the local commies after kim launched his invasion of the south that started the korean war
 
Dude what even the fuck.
You mention the rules based order, and then you come up with this shit? The UN mandate is for TWO states, not ONE.
Factually incorrect. Both as a matter of history, and international law. "Palestine" as a State has never existed. Prior to World War 1, it was a province of the Ottoman Empire. After World War and the Subsequent Sykes-Picot Agreement, it became the territory of the United Kingdom.

The UK, being a founding member or the UN and a Permanent member of the Security Council, established the Palestine Mandate, and attempted to devise a way to peacefully divest itself of its Ottoman satrapy.

The effort failed. In 1948, war erupted between Jewish Speratists and the Arab states. The Jewish separatists won, and proclaimed independence by force of Arms. The UK mandate was unilaterally dissolved by London, and the Balfour proclamation rendered moot.

Instead Egypt and Jordan assumed control of the territories of the proposed Arab State, until the 6 days war when they lost Gaza and the West Bank to Israel. Along with the Golan Heights and the Sinai Peninsula.

The Sinai would be returned to Egypt in the 1980s with the Oslo accords. Critically however, Egypt would not take the Arab refugee camps in Jabaliya and Khan Younis. Leading to the creation of Gaza and the Partition of the town of Rafah.

Egypt didn't want them, so making them Israel's responsibility was a critical component of the Oslo Accords. Israel accepted responsibility for the refugee camps in exchange for normalized relations with Cairo.

since then it's been a downhill slide, and now the Oslo Accords are essentially dead. Israel no longer wants to maintain the refugee camps. So they are going to be moved. By force if necessary.
 
So what's the endgame here?

Even if Israel was able to kill 80% of Hamas fighter and 100% of it's equipment/ infrastructure, what's to say that in 15 to 20 years this generation of Palestinian youths don't become the next Hamas terrorists? Hamas has proved resourceful enough to even make rockets from water pipes and common pharmaceutical chemicals notwithstanding the smuggling.

So how is Israel not creating the terrorist of tomorrow with the actions of today?

I understand what you are saying and the general logic of it.. But that logic doesn't apply or matter here. We are talking about a society that ~15 years ago had mothers sending their children to be suicide bombers/murderers and then publicly celebrating. A society that created music videos and media glorifying bombers and other terrorists, real (past ones) and as a concept, often times involving children. Where parents dress their KG aged and toddlers as terrorists and suicide bombers.. Complete with fake explosive vests! And this was all just a result of a tantrum started when their leaders walked out of a peace deal because they didn't get 100% of what they wanted. (only ~95%) From peace talks to i'll send my children to blow themselves up at your bus stops and restaurants! And one that has since elected a literal terrorist org that vows to wipe Israel out, down to the last person.

That ship has already sailed LOOOONG ago. There is only dealing with the worst case scenario at this point.
 
Factually incorrect.
So, you are ignoring international law, which considers Israel an occupying state, based on... what?
And you claim to be an international rules respecter?
Do you agree that US should send its military to be judged by an international court of justice?
I assume no.
So it's not about rules.
It's about Amerimutt supremacy
Also, you need to read the fuck more about this, and stop pushing lies about how the international law and the UN sees this
 
So what's the endgame here?

Even if Israel was able to kill 80% of Hamas fighter and 100% of it's equipment/ infrastructure, what's to say that in 15 to 20 years this generation of Palestinian youths don't become the next Hamas terrorists? Hamas has proved resourceful enough to even make rockets from water pipes and common pharmaceutical chemicals notwithstanding the smuggling.

So how is Israel not creating the terrorist of tomorrow with the actions of today?
Gaza is internationally recognized territory of Israel. A UN member State. However, it has been set aside, by Israel, to serve as a refugee camp for Stateless Persons administered in theory by the United Nations but in practice by Hamas.

On October 7, forces from within the UN administered zone staged a massive attack on the Israeli. As they were acting on Israeli soil, and from territory under Israeli sovereignty, the incident fell under international law as a "civil insurrection". For purposes of codification.

In practice however, it was an action from a non controlled territory under the auspices of the United Nations. The UN Security Council would go on to fail in its responsibility to reign in its ad.instrative zone. A few days later, Israel's legislative assembly declared war.

Since then UN facilities along with other things have been bombed. Most likely deliberately.

The Gaza refugee camp is going to be liquidated. And it cannot be a genocide or ethnic cleansing because the targets are stateless persons under UN administration. Funny how that works.
 
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