2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

At the risk of sounding like a Jewish shill, I don't see Israel's ultimate goal to flood the West with migrants. If they were allowed to fuck over the Arabs with no mercy, they would do so in a heartbeat. The problem is that there's international rules that put restraints on violence and we have guidelines on how to deal with migrants.

"We're going to war against the Arabs because they stuck first."
"Sure."
"It's gonna be harsh. Civilians are going to get hurt. That's just how war works."
"B-But you can't just kill them!"
"Alright Hans. Want to take them in?"
"Yes we will."
"Be my guest, retard."

I'm pretty sure the Israelis would love nothing more than to leave the Arabs to starve, but since that's against the rules. So when Eurotards offer to give asylum, they just shrug it off and send them on their way to Paris. It's a solution that was offered to them. The problem is with our leaders who can't seem to grow a spind and say no to third worlders coming to shit up the West.
 
At the risk of sounding like a Jewish shill, I don't see Israel's ultimate goal to flood the West with migrants. If they were allowed to fuck over the Arabs with no mercy, they would do so in a heartbeat. The problem is that there's international rules that put restraints on violence and we have guidelines on how to deal with migrants.

"We're going to war against the Arabs because they stuck first."
"Sure."
"It's gonna be harsh. Civilians are going to get hurt. That's just how war works."
"B-But you can't just kill them!"
"Alright Hans. Want to take them in?"
"Yes we will."
"Be my guest, retard."

I'm pretty sure the Israelis would love nothing more than to leave the Arabs to starve, but since that's against the rules. So when Eurotards offer to give asylum, they just shrug it off and send them on their way to Paris. It's a solution that was offered to them. The problem is with our leaders who can't seem to grow a spind and say no to third worlders coming to shit up the West.
The intelligence leak has been confirmed authentic. It's 100% true that at least some Israeli government officials want to relocate Gaza's population into southern Europe and Canada.
This was the obvious play and shouldn't surprise anyone. Jews have been the main instigators for mass migration into the west, they hate white Europeans more than Arabs.

here's my piss take on this whole hospital explosion situation and how i've determined that it is more likely a Hamas/PIJ rocket than an Israeli missile.

Hamas said the munition fragments "vapourized", i've read some worthwhile threads on Twitter from some people who appear to be qualified to talk about the subject and one of those accounts is from Marc Garlasco, a UN war crimes investigator whose spent the last two decades covering several wars in Gaza and this is the first instance he's seen that a crater made by an explosion is devoid from evidence, this is simply unprecedented and unless Israel has some sort of missile that fucking atomizes into the ether upon impact then it is more likely that Hamas are a bunch of lying incompetent cocksuckers.

we know the Palestinian EOD were sifting through the debris not long after it happened and they supposedly saw the fragments "dissolve like salt in water, nothing is left", leaving nothing for any independent 3rd party researchers to look into it.

this is important because i know for a fact that if Hamas recovered concrete evidence that it was an Israeli missile that they would parade those fragments around for everyone to see, but if it were a Hamas rocket... wouldn't it be convenient if the remains of the rocket just magically fucking disappeared? this is some dog ate my missile fragments type bullshit.

once their health ministry announced 500 people died they were basically forced to attribute the deaths to an Israeli missile, anything else would just hurt their propaganda campaign.

Instead of convoluted theories about how the Palestinians could have bombed their own hospital with a munition multiple times larger than anything they've used before let's take the simplest and most obvious scenario. The Israeli's were roof knocking the hospital, this has been confirmed. The small air burst munitions weren't getting the job done of encouraging civilians to abandon their sick and dying loved ones and move south. The Israelis decided to go bigger. Kaboom. Now maybe they didn't realise that there were so many in the parking lot, maybe they didn't give a fuck, but a war crime is a war crime.

The Israeli's deliberately targeted medical centres and hospitals with bombs and shells during the last Gaza invasion in 2014, and were found culpable by the ICC. The burgers have also bombed hospitals on multiple occasions during their GWOT ops in the middle east.
 
Egypt never pressed their advantage to the point Israel proper was under threat throughout the whole conflict.
I think its worth pointing out that Egypt(from their own admission) never intended to do anything more than break Israel's defenses during the Yom Kippur war. it was a well planned mini war to show Israel that they're not as invincible as they thought they were after the six day war and that the Egyptians are capable of real damage.
They also specifically never advanced far from the boarder because of the heavy anti aircraft artillery they had on their side of the river giving them near-complete immunity from the IAF, going in further and trying to conquer Sinai or genocide the Jews would have been suicidal for them and they knew it.
from Egypt's point of view, the Yom Kippur war was a complete victory, and from our perspective it was a terrible defense blunder.
 
Only good sandnigger is a dead one.

Thank you Jews for your service.

If you think Jews are not sandniggers I got some bad news:

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The reason American/Israeli Jews look white passing, is because they lost some melanin after they immigrated North to colder regions and mixed race with Europeans. Meaning that the longer Jews spend getting tanned up in the great Israel outdoors, the more they will resemble their local Arab cousins.
 
I think its worth pointing out that Egypt(from their own admission) never intended to do anything more than break Israel's defenses during the Yom Kippur war. it was a well planned mini war to show Israel that they're not as invincible as they thought they were after the six day war and that the Egyptians are capable of real damage.
They also specifically never advanced far from the boarder because of the heavy anti aircraft artillery they had on their side of the river giving them near-complete immunity from the IAF, going in further and trying to conquer Sinai or genocide the Jews would have been suicidal for them and they knew it.
from Egypt's point of view, the Yom Kippur war was a complete victory, and from our perspective it was a terrible defense blunder.

Which is probably why Egyptians always claim victory, even though the IDF had the Egyptian Third Army encircled and crossed the Suez into Egypt by the time of the final ceasefire. My understanding was the Egyptian war goal was to take back Sinai, but couldn't make gains outside of their SAM coverage.

I can see why Israelis see it as a blunder, although wasn't Meir under pressure from the US to not preemptively strike if they want any US support? Probably still would have been better to be more mobilized, especially in Golan.
 
I've posted this in the other IVP thread but the conservative religious Jews hate us for being Christian while the secular progressive jews hate us for being white.
Conservative tallit-wearing Jews do generally hate Christians, but that woman is being annoying as fuck. She's an American Christian trying to proselytize a weird backwards minority because some pastor's interpretation says that when you do that Jesus Yeshu (??? just use the Greek words) comes back quicker.
 
(and before Americans get upset, we're talking about Egyptian built M1A1s)
Those tanks were mostly completed in the US before being shipped over and put together by local labor. Those tanks might be "monkey models" but they are US produced abrams. Just cheaper for the egyptians to buy them as kits than complete tanks. Either way, it doesn't matter. As the arab problem is their own stupidity, not a lack of good equipment (see every war fought against Israel for reference).

Hamas peek-a-boo player getting really fucking ballsy with a tank
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Anyone ever tells you training isn't important. Show them this video. The right move would have been for him to place that bomb down in the tracks and get a mobility kill. That way that unit is stuck there waiting for the track to be replaced (giving other hamas fighters chances to launch attacks of their own) or forced to abandon the vehicle all together. Which would be a lot more effective than launching RPG-7 rockets at it.
 
What do y'all think will happen with the big speech tomorrow?


I honestly don't know what it could be beyond a declaration of war of sorts. But as good as Hezbollah is on the defensive it's capabilities don't likely transfer to the offensive against an entrenched high tech army like the IDF.
Though who knows, they might have their own tunnels and could pop up behind the backs of Israeli positions maybe?

Conservative tallit-wearing Jews do generally hate Christians, but that woman is being annoying as fuck. She's an American Christian trying to proselytize a weird backwards minority because some pastor's interpretation says that when you do that Jesus Yeshu (??? just use the Greek words) comes back quicker.

I'd be pissed off too. There's so much for a "good christian" to do in America but she spends all that money for an expensive ticket to Israel to do some feel good proselytizing to two groups of people engaged in an almost life and death struggle for the survival of their own religions in the area.

It's so in your face too with the goody-two-shoes routine and acting all superior because she's turning the other cheek. She's convincing nobody except her own ego.

That's why I'm saying that these people are disliked by most Israelis, especially the Jews but also the Arabs but that the former kinda kept it hush hush until the last 10-20 or so years because they knew they needed their support. No love lost though, then and now.
 
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Very difficult loss of one of the heroes of 7/10, Lt. Col. Salman Habaka, 33, of Yanuh-Jat, commander of the 53rd brigade (armored). He is the most senior Israeli officer killed since the start of the ground operation, and is survived by his wife and daughter.
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When he heard about the attack at 7:30 Saturday morning, he drove 240 km from his home to the unit's base at Tze'elim. By 10:30 his tanks were underway, and by 12:30 they were engaging Hamas at Be'eri. They were the first armored forces to respond.

A video he recorded before the start of the ground operation:
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Elhanan Klein, 29, was murdered today in a shooting attack near Beit Lid in the West Bank:

He was a reservist who was on his way home after being given leave. In May 2021, he stopped a terrorist attacking a driver near Beit El:

He leaves behind three children and his wife, pregnant with a fourth:

RIP :(


Following on from their festive Palestinian flag burning, British chain marks and Spencer have caused more outrage with this coded Zionist Instagram post

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This is dumb.. First a freakout over a Christmas color themed add and now... checks notes.... the color blue!


Israeli MMA fighter Haim Gozali, known for feuding with Chechen UFC fighter Khamzat Chimaev over Israel/Palestine, posted a video on Instagram of an artillery shell with the names of Chimaev and three other Caucasian MMA fighters:
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Israeli Arabic-language propaganda video:
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"Despite his accomplishments in the MMA world, Gozali has recently come under scrutiny due to his social media posts. Several of his online comments and posts have been labeled as anti-Islamic, and this has raised concerns and criticism from various quarters."


Despite what? We follow and know who he is because of his fighting abilities.. not his opinions on geopolitical issues or personal takes. This mentality is retarded! Who gives a flying fuck?!


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protestor gets a papercut courtesy of some crafty jew.

ROFL


"The youth" are retarded. They shouldn't be used as a barometer in any context.

Especially when "youth" is being used once again as a progressive buzz word meaning highly progressive campus activists and other mobilized ideological groups.


Wait until you learn about the permanent members of the UN Security Council 🤣

Or of the members of the human rights council.


Realistically I think the current working operation is that Israel is likely going to try and create an even greater demilitarized zone in Gaza (at the Gazans expense), this cramping the strip even more. This is likely why they are clearing the north first and trying to push everyone out to the south- because most Israel settlements are near the north of Gaza.

That's pretty much what I thought should be a given from the very beginning and said as much. No matter what happens, no mans land of death in between or simply enforced buffer.. The border is not likely to stay as a simple wall/fence.


Another insane take from a cunt with a self-inflated sense of importance merely for being a woman on the Internet:
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Again, imagine being an American and siding with China shills merely because you have an irrational paranoia that Jews are watching your every move.

So a second democratic friend should be taken over by a totalitarian dictatorship in order to help end support for another democratic friend dealing with terrorists dictators trying to destroy them? That is quite the fucking take. We should seriously, no hyperbole, ship these people off to the ME, West Taiwan or northern gaza!


Harvard, Yale Warned by Top Law Firms About Antisemitism
Bloomberg (archive.ph)
By Janet Lorin
2023-11-02 16:23:15GMT
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Good. This needs to be done in general. Followed by a kick in the teeth for admins that want to continue to run the schools like insane asylums or political/ideological advocacy organizations.


read your own article retard



the current palestinian cope is that it was an air burst JDAM despite israel never using an airburst JDAM in gaza. Also who says it was disabled in the air? The Israelis/Americans say the rocket motor fell off and then the rest of the still active rocket went with it.


not gonna respond to the rest of the post because if you get such a basic thing wrong then what's the point lol

Holy shit! I missed that. People are still desperately coping up fantasy scenarios over the hospital rocket failure in order to blame it on the IDF?! :story:
 
Holy shit! I missed that. People are still desperately coping up fantasy scenarios over the hospital rocket failure in order to blame it on the IDF?! :story:
Considering that Israel lies about as much as the US over air strikes I am firmly in the camp that they did the hospital strike.
Take this one for an example:


The Pentagon clung to their assertions that the guy they killed with a drone strike in Kabul during the evacuations was an ISKP member, that he had explosions in the car and that he was 100% legitimate target. It is only when the NYTimes sketched a timeline of the guy's day via security video footage hour by hour and revealed he was an NGO worker that they finally knuckled under and admitted they screwed up. Same with all of the bombing of weddings and other assembly of people. Israel will never admit that they bombed these people even though what little forensic data we've managed to see put up on the internet shows that the impact direction of the crater indicates that it came in from the northeast, which is the Israeli side, not to mention the roof tiles and buildings around the parking lot / garden area are spattered with shrapnel holes in a manner that ONLY would happen if it was an airburst. It was definitely not a 1000lbs bomb people inappropriately call a JDAM which is the guidance system, not the bomb itself. It was a smaller bomb.
 
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Old Israel tweet where they brag about promoting US laws has resurfaced. This is honestly why support among the youth for Israel is down and Israel only had themselves to blame
It should be common sense by now that it's AIPAC who decides who gets to be the President, and which way the money flows. The Israel Lobby, both the book and documentary, are essential viewing. Not to mention the candid admission Israel is a nuclear power while formally declaring it isn't.

You should be allowed to boycott whoever and whatever you want. Yet it's only this particular nation that enjoys such privilege, brags about it, and gloats that nothing will be done about it.
 
Kind of weird how all these leftists are so up in arms about Palestine when the exact same situation is going on in Azerbaijan and none of them give a shit.

That's pretty much what I thought should be a given from the very beginning and said as much. No matter what happens, no mans land of death in between or simply enforced buffer.. The border is not likely to stay as a simple wall/fence.

That's what I think the most logical solution is. Completely smash every Hamas asset you can find in the strip, hang around until you create a DMZ that would make Korea blush, then tell the Gazans glhf you're completely on your own now.
 
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